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The perfect iPhone Mini display size is

  • Current iPhone 12 Mini (5.4)

    Votes: 55 59.8%
  • iPhone 7(4.7)

    Votes: 11 12.0%
  • iphone 5(4 inch)

    Votes: 16 17.4%
  • iPhone 4 (3.5)

    Votes: 8 8.7%
  • even smaller

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Total voters
    92
Honestly my iPhone xs I had briefly wasn’t a horrible size and didn’t feel much different from my 11/xr which are bigger
Depends on where you’re coming from. Being an Android user, even the Xs feels somewhat small as most Android phones have been in the 6” or larger size for a few years. But I can see iPhone users who had only used the 5s or older feeling the phone a bit large.

I played with the mini some time ago, and it feels very solid. It’s hard to imagine how Apple managed to compress everything that small. But then for typing it’s a bit annoying because it just feels too cramped. Apple regular 12/12 Pro feels more comfortable. Once you go big, it’s hard to go small for typing. :)
 
Admittedly I don't do much exercising aside from long power walks but if I were to go into a gym I could use my apple watch with my AirPods and listen to music or audiobooks. I'd leave my phone at home and just use my Apple Watch as I can get my calls and messages on there. No issue carrying around the pro max generally as I have a handbag lol
Fair enough. I have an Apple Watch too but deliberately not a cellular version.
 
Fair enough. I have an Apple Watch too but deliberately not a cellular version.
It's only £5 a month for the cellular service and it does come in handy when I want to go to the shops quickly and don't want to take my phone. Or when I forget to take it on the school run.
 
For $5Aud a month the cellular watch is so worth it, no need to carry my iPhone exercising, stream radio etc.
 
It's only £5 a month for the cellular service and it does come in handy when I want to go to the shops quickly and don't want to take my phone. Or when I forget to take it on the school run.
I think last time I looked on Vodafone it was £10 a month to bolt it on to my current contract. I’m rarely in a situation where I don’t take my phone with me and I don’t physically go into shops anymore with the pandemic. I can live without my phone in a 5 mile run three times a week if I’m brutally honest. It wasn’t really worth the extra £20 on the watch price and the monthly tariff for what I need, but whatever works for others
 
Depends on where you’re coming from. Being an Android user, even the Xs feels somewhat small as most Android phones have been in the 6” or larger size for a few years. But I can see iPhone users who had only used the 5s or older feeling the phone a bit large.

I played with the mini some time ago, and it feels very solid. It’s hard to imagine how Apple managed to compress everything that small. But then for typing it’s a bit annoying because it just feels too cramped. Apple regular 12/12 Pro feels more comfortable. Once you go big, it’s hard to go small for typing. :)
I can never have a 'small' phone as my daily phone again I don't think. I started with the original galaxy note in 2012 and have used a 'phablet' ever since. Even the original galaxy note would feel small to me now. I remember trying to switch back to the iPhone with the iPhone 5s. It was too small and I ran back to the galaxy note 3. I couldn't switch back to the iPhone until the 6 plus.

I agree about the typing experience. I had the iPhone X which was 'suppose' to be bigger than my plus sized iPhones. It was not. It was too small and one of the things that irritated me the most was the typing experience. The phone was too narrow and I was constantly making mistakes when typing.
 
Depends on where you’re coming from. Being an Android user, even the Xs feels somewhat small as most Android phones have been in the 6” or larger size for a few years. But I can see iPhone users who had only used the 5s or older feeling the phone a bit large.

I played with the mini some time ago, and it feels very solid. It’s hard to imagine how Apple managed to compress everything that small. But then for typing it’s a bit annoying because it just feels too cramped. Apple regular 12/12 Pro feels more comfortable. Once you go big, it’s hard to go small for typing. :)
I’ve had my share of large phones before iPhone ever went large. I strongly android now in 2021 but I had many it the niche phablets and concept phones at the time. My first phablet actually was the lumia 1520 windows phones and even compared to my xr and 12 it’s ridiculous lol
 
Honestly my iPhone xs I had briefly wasn’t a horrible size and didn’t feel much different from my 11/xr which are bigger

While I do prefer slightly smaller screens anyway, my main issue with the XR and 11 honestly comes less from the screen itself and more how that screen size feels in phones that feel so chunky.

I could live with 6.1” if the phone was a bit more slender, but for some reason the XR and 11 feel too thick (throw on a case and it gets exponentially worse).

I’ve never owned or held a XS like you, but it seems like a sleeker handset, which is why I brought this up.

For me, the compactness has to go both ways. I don’t want a phone that’s paper thin, but I also don’t want something that feels like carrying a paperweight in my pocket everyday.
 
Sony made the exact thing that you wanted with their compact line, a smaller phone with flagship internals, but obviously it's not selling enough to sustain themselves. And have you looked at the offerings from Huawei, Oppo and Xiaomi? Even their cheapest offerings have at least 6.5" screen or larger. These companies cannot afford to cater to the small phone crowd as the return is not enough to justify the cost of R&D, manufacturing, logistic, etc.

Foldables are different. They are the Ultra premium with bleeding edge tech. People are already complaining how expensive and overpriced the iPhone 12 mini. Do you think people want to pay $2000 for a small 5.4" Galaxy phone?

Nobody denied that there are a small niche demand for smaller phone. But that demand is not big enough to justify the R&D and cost for pretty much everyone except Apple. Apple can do it because they can afford it, raking the most profit compared to the rest of phone makers. Even Apple themselves said it in their announcement of the mini, that only Apple can do it. Also, the mini helped Apple increases the ASP of iPhone sales, by tricking most people into paying $100 extra for the regular iPhone 12. That Tim Cook is a master when it comes to profits. ;)

What R&D needed for a smaller phone? Its the same phone with smaller screen, all the R&D that goes into it is thinking of how to rearrange things inside. It does not take a genius to do it, in fact the very original iPhone from 14 years ago had 3.5inch screen which was described as a big screen enough on a cellphone to browse the web.

If they just take the 5 or 7 body form and upgrade the screen, CPU, battery, RAM, Wifi antenna...tada! No need to re-invent the wheel. Adding new stuff like FaceID Notch, wireless electricity magnets, waterproof, quadruple cameras...I agree that probably will be tight in a smaller phone. Its already tight in a bigger phone.

A 5.8 inch with the new design and further slimmed bezels would almost be the same size foot print wise as the iPhone 8.

its not about the overall footprint, its if my thumb can reach the four corners. The iPhone 7 is larger than the mini but more comfortable to use for me because my thumb does not have to reach above the front facing camera or below the home button
 
The original 3.5” size was specifically chosen for ideal one-handed use. Phones at that time weren’t meant to be looked at all day, but just for quick interactions until you get to work or home where you can use a bigger device. That’s still how I use my phone, so that is still my ideal size. 4” is tolerable but to me it pushes the limits of a true one-handed device, so anything bigger is absolutely not desirable to me.
One key to one-handed use software-wise, though, is QuickPath. It has made my SE1 a joy to use one-handed.
 
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What R&D needed for a smaller phone? Its the same phone with smaller screen, all the R&D that goes into it is thinking of how to rearrange things inside. It does not take a genius to do it, in fact the very original iPhone from 14 years ago had 3.5inch screen which was described as a big screen enough on a cellphone to browse the web.

If they just take the 5 or 7 body form and upgrade the screen, CPU, battery, RAM, Wifi antenna...tada! No need to re-invent the wheel. Adding new stuff like FaceID Notch, wireless electricity magnets, waterproof, quadruple cameras...I agree that probably will be tight in a smaller phone. Its already tight in a bigger phone.
You’re more than welcomed to startup your own company and prove those Android OEMs wrong. Go for it. :)

In the end, reality of the market is as it is today.
 
You’re more than welcomed to startup your own company and prove those Android OEMs wrong. Go for it. :)

In the end, reality of the market is as it is today.

We will see where it goes. Microsoft CEO laughed at the idea of $500 cellphones, look where we are today.

The original 3.5” size was specifically chosen for ideal one-handed use. Phones at that time weren’t meant to be looked at all day, but just for quick interactions until you get to work or home where you can use a bigger device. That’s still how I use my phone, so that is still my ideal size. 4” is tolerable but to me it pushes the limits of a true one-handed device, so anything bigger is absolutely not desirable to me.
One key to one-handed use software-wise, though, is QuickPath. It has made my SE1 a joy to use one-handed.

Yes this is a lot of what I am trying to say to people who say that bigger phones are better and 4.7 are too small. The "definition" of what a smartphone has changed. For people like me and you we still see it as a "smart" phone and hence a 6.1 and 6.7 is ludicrous. The others feels 5.4 is a "mini" because a smartphone to them is their main internet-computer device. Its the handheld PC.

Even one guy here I believe said he watches movies and tv shows on it.
 
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True. Jobs was very against larger phones. Then the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus came, and they were Apple's best seller ever. ;)
That also coincided in a lot of countries with iPhones becoming available on more than one carrier. It meant more people could buy iPhones on the carrier of their choice. I know in the UK for the first few years of the iPhones existence, we could only buy it in O2 which has quite poor network coverage outside of major cities and the south east. I would imagine other countries suddenly had more options too.

Steve Jobs was a bit of a tool though with some of his direction too lol. Apple started putting customer demand before ego in the years after his time I feel.
 
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True. Jobs was very against larger phones. Then the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus came, and they were Apple's best seller ever. ;)
Apprently Jobs took part in the early planning stages of the 6 and 6 plus so despite his personal views even he wasn’t so stubborn as to ignore the way the market was moving towards bigger phones.
 
The original 3.5” size was specifically chosen for ideal one-handed use. Phones at that time weren’t meant to be looked at all day, but just for quick interactions until you get to work or home where you can use a bigger device. That’s still how I use my phone, so that is still my ideal size. 4” is tolerable but to me it pushes the limits of a true one-handed device, so anything bigger is absolutely not desirable to me.
One key to one-handed use software-wise, though, is QuickPath. It has made my SE1 a joy to use one-handed.
if 4 is the max you will go what do you use now? what will you use in the future? i am perfectly happy with 4.7 but even that is rare now and might be on the way out.

i just discovered quick path or swipe and its amazing. i thought you had to swipe at every letter to figure it out but i am merely circling near the letters and it gets it correct. success rate is near 98%. this is the kind of AI we need to improve our lives not google telling me when my wife is fertile to consume a child that has a 60% chance of being a boy.
 
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if 4 is the max you will go what do you use now? what will you use in the future? i am perfectly happy with 4.7 but even that is rare now and might be on the way out.

i just discovered quick path or swipe and its amazing. i thought you had to swipe at every letter to figure it out but i am merely circling near the letters and it gets it correct. success rate is near 98%. this is the kind of AI we need to improve our lives not google telling me when my wife is fertile to consume a child that has a 60% chance of being a boy.
I still use the 4” SE1. When this thing goes, I’ll have to just get the smallest option available and deal with it. 😖 I’m dreading that day.

Yes, QuickPath is pretty solid.
And I think you meant conceive, not consume? 😆
 
I still use the 4” SE1. When this thing goes, I’ll have to just get the smallest option available and deal with it. 😖 I’m dreading that day.

Yes, QuickPath is pretty solid.
And I think you meant conceive, not consume? 😆
Well you could get second hand SE1’s as a replacement from tech dealers, or else the best option is the 12 Mini, which is essentially a slightly larger SE1 in design but with all screen display. You can definitely use this one handed exclusively if you wanted to, i can anyway. There are some users who need finger gymnastics to reach the top right corner though to access the control centre (SE1 is a swipe up so easier). This can be solved by using back double tap though.
 
That also coincided in a lot of countries with iPhones becoming available on more than one carrier. It meant more people could buy iPhones on the carrier of their choice. I know in the UK for the first few years of the iPhones existence, we could only buy it in O2 which has quite poor network coverage outside of major cities and the south east. I would imagine other countries suddenly had more options too.

Steve Jobs was a bit of a tool though with some of his direction too lol. Apple started putting customer demand before ego in the years after his time I feel.

Steve's stubbornness is what made Apple is today by bringing new and different products. I will take his stubbornness over people's demand honestly. As the saying goes " If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses"(context: over a car)

I still use the 4” SE1. When this thing goes, I’ll have to just get the smallest option available and deal with it. 😖 I’m dreading that day.

Yes, QuickPath is pretty solid.
And I think you meant conceive, not consume? 😆
Yes conceive, and thats my mistake not QuickPath to be fair to the AI ☺️
 
Well you could get second hand SE1’s as a replacement from tech dealers, or else the best option is the 12 Mini, which is essentially a slightly larger SE1 in design but with all screen display. You can definitely use this one handed exclusively if you wanted to, i can anyway. There are some users who need finger gymnastics to reach the top right corner though to access the control centre (SE1 is a swipe up so easier). This can be solved by using back double tap though.
My current SE1 is actually a replacement haha. I had a brand new backup SE1 and recently switched over to it because the battery life on my original SE1 became intolerable. I plan on getting the battery replaced in the original and keeping that as a backup now. But eventually I’ll lose support of critical apps, so that will be the ultimate end of the SE1.
Screen size is an important factor for one-handed use as well as overall device size. More specifically, it’s the device’s width and the screen’s height. So while the 12 mini is the smallest device, I also wonder if the SE2 might be better for one handed use since it has the smallest screen. I would like to test to make sure but I do think device width is more important so I think you’re right that the 12 Mini is the best bet. Interesting tip on the double back tap. Does no one use reachability? Does that still exist?
 
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Steve's stubbornness is what made Apple is today by bringing new and different products. I will take his stubbornness over people's demand honestly. As the saying goes " If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses"(context: over a car)
I think Apple have long since moved on from the Jobs era and for the better in my opinion.
 
My current SE1 is actually a replacement haha. I had a brand new backup SE1 and recently switched over to it because the battery life on my original SE1 became intolerable. I plan on getting the battery replaced in the original and keeping that as a backup now. But eventually I’ll lose support of critical apps, so that will be the ultimate end of the SE1.
Screen size is an important factor for one-handed use as well as overall device size. More specifically, it’s the device’s width and the screen’s height. So while the 12 mini is the smallest device, I also wonder if the SE2 might be better for one handed use since it has the smallest screen. I would like to test to make sure but I do think device width is more important so I think you’re right that the 12 Mini is the best bet. Interesting tip on the double back tap. Does no one use reachability? Does that still exist?

Yes on the 12 Mini, and all the newer Face ID iphones there is the 'reach-ability' feature like the classic iphones have. You kind of flick down on the bottom bar, and the screen pulls down. Regarding your SE1 though, it will get support as long as the 6S iphones get, with further security updates for a few years after so at least your good for a couple more years, then you can see whats best for you. The SE2 and 12 mini are there as your safety net in the meantime.
 
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I think Apple have long since moved on from the Jobs era and for the better in my opinion.
The more a company is smarter/wiser than its customers, the more beneficial it is to its customers (in general) for that company to not listen to them. It’s insulting, I know, but nevertheless I think it’s true. Under Jobs, Apple was smart/wise enough that the level of irreverence they had resulted in usually good decisions. Not perfect of course, but pros outweighed the cons for most. Without Jobs, they can’t have that same level of irreverence and be as successful. So I think their recent increasing willingness to listen to customers is out of necessity (though still much less compared to other companies). The catch is that listening to customers taken to the extreme will result in complete lack of focus (eg. Samsung). So Apple needs to be very careful how they tread because I think that’s a stream that flows to mediocrity.
 
The more a company is smarter/wiser than its customers, the more beneficial it is to its customers (in general) for that company to not listen to them. It’s insulting, I know, but nevertheless I think it’s true. Under Jobs, Apple was smart/wise enough that the level of irreverence they had resulted in usually good decisions. Not perfect of course, but pros outweighed the cons for most. Without Jobs, they can’t have that same level of irreverence and be as successful. So I think their recent increasing willingness to listen to customers is out of necessity (though still much less compared to other companies). The catch is that listening to customers taken to the extreme will result in complete lack of focus (eg. Samsung). So Apple needs to be very careful how they tread because I think that’s a stream that flows to mediocrity.
Regardless of who is leading the company, they would have had to react to market and industry demand in this day and age. The consumer decides whether a product is successful or not, not the company. Apple spent several years doing the bare minimum and playing catch-up, but I think we finally have products that tick most of the boxes.
 
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