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What smart plugs work well with our Home app?

I've been using the Switchbot Smart Plugs, but they are not longer available through Amazon. So, I am looking for an alternative. I need to replace one plug which has gone bad. Very simple need. This plug simply controls a lamp in the living room. Thanks for suggestions!
 
UPDATE: I did find an updated Switchbot plug and ordered it. But, if you have a favorite brand for use with HomeKit, I would still like to know what you like! Thanks.
 
Any product with a 'Works with Apple Home' logo, unless its Matter based, then you need a Home hub like an Apple TV (gen 4 or newer) or a Homepod mini.

Dont buy a product that requires a third party app. All Homekit supported products can be QR scanned and paired directly from the Apple Home app and work locally without and internet connection or account required to function.
 
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Check out Eve products. I have quite a few and love them. No account required.
Pricey but good products. In my experience the simple Homekit plugs are all about the same. And the really cheap ones are so cheap that if they do die, theyre 1/3 the cost of the 'nice' ones anyway.
 
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TL;DR - I join you in looking for Home-compatible smartplugs that are consistently reliable, and have not found them.

I have used iHome smartplugs…they work but occasionally go “No Response” after things like network software updates. I replaced most with WeMo smartplugs with Thread/Matter/Whatev along with some WeMo light switches. They occasionally go “No Response” from time to time. I’ve tried Kasa in the past with poor results, though today’s products might be better.

I have some Nanoleaf bulbs…pretty reliable but not 100%, more like mid-90’s%.

In truth, the only smartplugs that were and are consistently excellent were the old 1980’s X-10 devices. For chuckles, I still have these in a portion of our home. The plugs/switches and controllers all work flawlessly to this day and don’t care if my network updates or not. The plugs were divided into two types: lights, and appliances. The differences were the appliance modules accepted a bit more current, and did not offer dimming. The light modules all were dimming.
 
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TL;DR - I join you in looking for Home-compatible smartplugs that are consistently reliable, and have not found them.

I have used iHome smartplugs…they work but occasionally go “No Response” after things like network software updates. I replaced most with WeMo smartplugs with Thread/Matter/Whatev along with some WeMo light switches. They occasionally go “No Response” from time to time. I’ve tried Kasa in the past with poor results, though today’s products might be better.

I have some Nanoleaf bulbs…pretty reliable but not 100%, more like mid-90’s%.

In truth, the only smartplugs that were and are consistently excellent were the old 1980’s X-10 devices. For chuckles, I still have these in a portion of our home. The plugs/switches and controllers all work flawlessly to this day and don’t care if my network updates or not. The plugs were divided into two types: lights, and appliances. The differences were the appliance modules accepted a bit more current, and did not offer dimming. The light modules all were dimming.
Oof yah, home and Wemo were early implementations that were both known to be pretty unreliable. That said, as you eluded, your wireless network plays a big part of it, and not just if you have good signal or not.

If you want reliability, Lutron Caseta are amazing, they don’t rely on WiFi to communicate but they are much more expensive and require the Caseta hub. You will find nothing but praise about this product line and how well it works.

They don’t make smart plugs, and instead focus on lighting, dimmers, fan controls and switches.

They are very reminiscent of the x- 10 days you describe, but better 🙂
 
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I got a Tapo TP Link Matter certified one. It’s been working fine since I got it a week ago.

IKEA are bringing out Matter ones too.

I’m liking Matter compatible competition. My Tapo plug was far cheaper than an Eve one.
 
If you want reliability, Lutron Caseta are amazing, they don’t rely on WiFi to communicate but they are much more expensive and require the Caseta hub. You will find nothing but praise about this product line and how well it works.

They don’t make smart plugs, and instead focus on lighting, dimmers, fan controls and switches.

They are very reminiscent of the x- 10 days you describe, but better 🙂
I’ve looked at Lutron and as you say the reviews are all very positive. Our home, built in 1905, has all push button light switches, most of which are original and Lutron doesn’t make such a switch (though others do but not smart switches at this point). For any home automation control I need smart plugs or smart outlets. Our front porch ceiling fans have “smartness” built in and they do work well. The other 3 don’t but all have remote controls that are sufficient for our needs. We have dimming only for two sconces on either side of a fireplace wall and use the Nanoleaf bulbs to achieve that. When they’re working, thankfully most of the time, that’s about all the dimming we need in the home frankly.

The net of all this is that Lutron, regardless of cost, is likely not in our future as their products don’t align with our needs, but like you I’ve heard nothing but good things. So…still looking. Maybe the Tapo products (replacing Kasa?) by TP Link are worth another look as suggested by @actcyclist. I remain disappointed that after a couple of decades of development or more that these haven’t become commodities that “just work” but seem to still be in development with lots of idiosyncracies that depend on absolutely pure power, absolutely fast and solid networking, phases of the moon, your dog’s mood, and whatever else. Thread/Matter seems to have added more layers of things that may or may not work reliably rather than adding bulletproofness.
 
I’ve looked at Lutron and as you say the reviews are all very positive. Our home, built in 1905, has all push button light switches, most of which are original and Lutron doesn’t make such a switch (though others do but not smart switches at this point). For any home automation control I need smart plugs or smart outlets. Our front porch ceiling fans have “smartness” built in and they do work well. The other 3 don’t but all have remote controls that are sufficient for our needs. We have dimming only for two sconces on either side of a fireplace wall and use the Nanoleaf bulbs to achieve that. When they’re working, thankfully most of the time, that’s about all the dimming we need in the home frankly.

The net of all this is that Lutron, regardless of cost, is likely not in our future as their products don’t align with our needs, but like you I’ve heard nothing but good things. So…still looking. Maybe the Tapo products (replacing Kasa?) by TP Link are worth another look as suggested by @actcyclist. I remain disappointed that after a couple of decades of development or more that these haven’t become commodities that “just work” but seem to still be in development with lots of idiosyncracies that depend on absolutely pure power, absolutely fast and solid networking, phases of the moon, your dog’s mood, and whatever else. Thread/Matter seems to have added more layers of things that may or may not work reliably rather than adding bulletproofness.
You may want to do some deeper research. There are Lutron wall switches that do not require neutral wiring and should be drop in replacements for the switches you currently use.

Look into the PD-5WS-DV, it does not require a neutral wire and should be a drop in replacements for the switches annd wiring you have in place right now.

Relying on WiFi for lighting is… not great.
 
Look into the PD-5WS-DV, it does not require a neutral wire and should be a drop in replacements for the switches annd wiring you have in place right now.
Thanks for that…Lutron has much more to offer today than the last time I looked.

While your suggested switch is indeed an electrical replacement for my push button switches, in no way does it fit behind our historic switch plates built with holes for the push buttons. Yes, I could upgrade all switches including the switch plates but at significant historic downgrade. In this home, form occasionally trumps function and this is one of those situations.
 
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Thanks for that…Lutron has much more to offer today than the last time I looked.

While your suggested switch is indeed an electrical replacement for my push button switches, in no way does it fit behind our historic switch plates built with holes for the push buttons. Yes, I could upgrade all switches including the switch plates but at significant historic downgrade. In this home, form occasionally trumps function and this is one of those situations.
Yeah, if you intend to retain the old switches, check out Shelly relays.

They make so many, not sure if any work without the neutral wire, but might be worth checking out their product line up. The relays fit behind the switch (in the box) to bring smart functionality without replacing the switch. That said most rely on wifi.
 
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Kasa Smart Plug Minis work well as do the Aqara Smart Plug I tend to side with the Aqara since it uses Zigbee and not WifI. If you only have a few devices using WiFi that's fine but over time if you keep adding more and more WiFi devices it tends to cause issues. Keep WiFi for TV's, Laptops, iPads, iPhones etc.
 
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Kasa Smart Plug Minis work well as do the Aqara Smart Plug I tend to side with the Aqara since it uses Zigbee and not WifI. If you only have a few devices using WiFi that's fine but over time if you keep adding more and more WiFi devices it tends to cause issues. Keep WiFi for TV's, Laptops, iPads, iPhones etc.
Agree but not crazy about the Aqara hub and account requirements.

Hubitat or home assistant for zigbee/zwave.
 
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Agree but not crazy about the Aqara hub and account requirements.

Hubitat or home assistant for zigbee/zwave.
Very true, I tend to think a Hub really helps out anyone newer to the smart home idea. Letting a Hub do all the work and keeping the network clean and simple to manage is a benefit.

The more advanced smart home users on the other hand are much different story.
 
Very true, I tend to think a Hub really helps out anyone newer to the smart home idea. Letting a Hub do all the work and keeping the network clean and simple to manage is a benefit.

The more advanced smart home users on the other hand are much different story.
Agree, but within the Homekit ecosystem, isn’t an iPad and/or AppleTV supposed to act as a hub?
 
I went with Eve Energy Outlets for two reasons… seamless looks and for Thread.

Although I have a robust wifi network, I only had two AppleTVs on opposite sides of my home. I also have two Schlage Encode door locks in between those two devices. Because I had such a finicky experience with thread (often becoming non responsive) I installed them via the app which meant they relied no wifi. Although they worked great under wifi, they ate through batteries like no other.

I was installing some christmas trees and some holiday lights, which provided the perfect opportunity for some smart plugs/outlets since I wanted to schedule those lights to turn on at certain times. I went with the Eve Outlets since they were full thread devices and looked so much better without having any wall warts around the home. The locations of said outlets were perfect as well, since they sat 20-30 feet in between those two AppleTVs. Setup was a breeze and they have been 100% reliable.

Now the added benefit was that I now had a decent Thread network. I uninstalled the Schlage locks and reinstalled them via the Home App, which meant they would now be under the Thread network only. Those locks have been 100% responsive while at the same time having much much better battery life.

I am 100% happy with my purchase.
 
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Agree, but within the Homekit ecosystem, isn’t an iPad and/or AppleTV supposed to act as a hub?

iPad can no longer act as a hub in new Homekit architecture, but yes, you need a Homepod or AppleTV acting as a Home hub for any remote access to your Home devices. Third party hubs can be used to extend functionality and support devices by acting as a bridge through your Home hub.

Many manufacturers use this to integrate their own, non native Homekit devices and radios/protocols into Homekit. Some are better than others and their functionality and longevity is up to their respective manufacturer.

Lutron Caseta, Philips Hue, Aqara, Bond, Hubitat, and Eufy are examples of hardware hubs/bridges. Some of these hubs rely on software/firmware support, and in some cases require even accounts, via the manufacturer infrastructure. Software 'hubs' like Homebridge and Home Assistant can also act as a bridge into homekit to allow advanced functionality.
 
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