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also, it doesn't make much sense that Apple would only include an updated Address Book in the final build when there was no indication anywhere previously that the application would be updated. if 10A435 is to be GM, at most the differences would be minor changes like UI fixes and bug fixes, not new applications with significant new features.
 
I don't know people here seem to think Apple will notify them personally before they do anything with Snow Leopard and its release. It's their OS, they'll do whatever the hell they want. They could have been testing a new Address Book.app for months now, and they have no obligation to tell us or notify us until the Snow Leopard final release.
 
I don't know people here seem to think Apple will notify them personally before they do anything with Snow Leopard and its release. It's their OS, they'll do whatever the hell they want. They could have been testing a new Address Book.app for months now, and they have no obligation to tell us or notify us until the Snow Leopard final release.

That's about as true as it gets. Although, haven't they said in the release notes in the past (for Leopard, Tiger, et. al.) that a certain build model is the GM? I say if they haven't said that, then they haven't meant that, meaning it's not the GM.
 
If that is a new build, then August release or even early september release seems to be impossible due to the time to send in for manufacturing. But again, all we know is info we read from rumors, only apple knows the truth :)

The time from Leopard's GM to release was 9 days. It's definitely possible (remember that GM is declared when the build is done, not when screenshots mysteriously leak out).
 
Not to mention 432 didn't necessarily have to be the latest build when it was released. Actually, companies are usually quite a few builds ahead already of the latest testing release.
 
Not to mention 432 didn't necessarily have to be the latest build when it was released. Actually, companies are usually quite a few builds ahead already of the latest testing release.

I agree and anyway September is around the corner so no need to panic we will get SL and I can tell you that once it will be here people would says all this drama for this ? YES it's under the wood work people ! LOL :D:apple:
 
I go with the numbers in the pictures as showing it being fake.

You would have heard of a lot of more people having this build already if it were the GM. They wouldn't release a GM build without going out to the developers so that the build that is GM is the one their apps are tested on.
 
I don't know people here seem to think Apple will notify them personally before they do anything with Snow Leopard and its release. It's their OS, they'll do whatever the hell they want. They could have been testing a new Address Book.app for months now, and they have no obligation to tell us or notify us until the Snow Leopard final release.

You have a very dramatic idea of software development. Things aren't tested in secret and added to the final build at the last minute. GMs are planned well in advance, and compiled well in advance of being signed off as the GM. After compiling, the build is tested for several days both by machines and by people. If there are any problems, they are fixed just to let it pass the tests.

Software projects on this scale require methodical practice and require the results to be predictable. Adding new features in at the last minute simply does not happen. Feature lists are finalised well in advance (the list for 10.7 is likely about 75% complete already), and once final, even during the development cycle, no features can be added unless they are an A1 priority.

Besides, it makes no sense for Apple to hide a feature like this (it's minor to say the least), and it doesn't make sense to integrate social networks in to AB in the first place - surely, if Apple were to try and integrate OSX with social networking such as FaceBook and Twitter, iChat would be the place for it.
 
You have a very dramatic idea of software development. Things aren't tested in secret and added to the final build at the last minute. GMs are planned well in advance, and compiled well in advance of being signed off as the GM. After compiling, the build is tested for several days both by machines and by people. If there are any problems, they are fixed just to let it pass the tests.

Software projects on this scale require methodical practice and require the results to be predictable. Adding new features in at the last minute simply does not happen. Feature lists are finalised well in advance (the list for 10.7 is likely about 75% complete already), and once final, even during the development cycle, no features can be added unless they are an A1 priority.

Besides, it makes no sense for Apple to hide a feature like this (it's minor to say the least), and it doesn't make sense to integrate social networks in to AB in the first place - surely, if Apple were to try and integrate OSX with social networking such as FaceBook and Twitter, iChat would be the place for it.

Oh, please, I have a very good idea of normal software development. Just because I just became "a Mac" doesn't mean I don't know how things work. This is Apple, who have always been overly-secretive about their stuff. I'm not arguing for or against this Social Networking in Address Book stuff (more below), I'm just wondering why people are categorically denying newer builds because they have sort of entitlement to Apple news.

Once again, Apple can do whatever they want. It is entirely their ecosystem. Who would they be catering to to introduce features very early in advance? They don't have OEMs to worry about, they can test and add new features whenever they want. I'm not even implying this is a last minute feature; how would you know? Many apps (including Address Book, I'm told) don't have full translations in 10A432.

And why wouldn't Social Networking support be a good idea in Address Book? Twitter and Facebook aren't just about chat. Address Book would be a good place to put them because Facebook allows all sorts of information storage like phone numbers, birthdays, etc. Address Book can act as a hub to open iChat, TweetDeck, etc.
 
Oh, please, I have a very good idea of normal software development. Just because I just became "a Mac" doesn't mean I don't know how things work. This is Apple, who have always been overly-secretive about their stuff. I'm not arguing for or against this Social Networking in Address Book stuff (more below), I'm just wondering why people are categorically denying newer builds because they have sort of entitlement to Apple news.

Once again, Apple can do whatever they want. It is entirely their ecosystem. Who would they be catering to to introduce features very early in advance? They don't have OEMs to worry about, they can test and add new features whenever they want. I'm not even implying this is a last minute feature; how would you know? Many apps (including Address Book, I'm told) don't have full translations in 10A432.

And why wouldn't Social Networking support be a good idea in Address Book? Twitter and Facebook aren't just about chat. Address Book would be a good place to put them because Facebook allows all sorts of information storage like phone numbers, birthdays, etc. Address Book can act as a hub to open iChat, TweetDeck, etc.

By finalising feature lists early and not including new features at the last minute, Apple aren't catering to anybody: it's in their own interest that the first time the feature is used by people outside of Apple isn't in the final build.

This applies to all software development on all platforms. Nobody's going to be rushing down a corridor with the final disk, chased by an explosion. Software development is dull and mundane and is all about predictability and testing. For software as complex and important to Apple's business as OSX, external testers are required, and since they are testers, it makes no sense to hide anything from them.

Besides, by hiding the feature, who are they going to impress at the unveiling? A minor portion of their user base who already knows what's in Snow Leopard and are using the betas. It's not a killer feature, so they're not worried about poaching from Microsoft. Keeping things secret is expensive, and you don't do it unless there's a killer product that's worth keeping secret.
 
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Woke up this morning and found Software Update asking me to update Snow Leopard no changes so far.. :/ maybe is something is the kernel!
 
By finalising feature lists early and not including new features at the last minute, Apple aren't catering to anybody: it's in their own interest that the first time the feature is used by people outside of Apple isn't in the final build.

This applies to all software development on all platforms. Nobody's going to be rushing down a corridor with the final disk, chased by an explosion. Software development is dull and mundane and is all about predictability and testing. For software as complex and important to Apple's business as OSX, external testers are required, and since they are testers, it makes no sense to hide anything from them.

Would make an interesting days coding if you were chased by explosions and the like! Live fire code perhaps?
 
if i have installed 432 and IF 432 is the golden master, is it any different from the final release i will get buying it? I will buy the os, i just want to know if i have to reinstall.
 
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