What about people upgrading from 10.4? Do they get a $50 upgrade, while others of us had to pay $179 ($129 for Leopard + $50)?
It'll probably be a full-priced upgrade.
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SNOW LEOPARD Free update or not??
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What about people upgrading from 10.4? Do they get a $50 upgrade, while others of us had to pay $179 ($129 for Leopard + $50)?
It'll probably be a full-priced upgrade.
Cromulent
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Muncher
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It will be full priced, as it will have been about 18 months. Upgrades from Tiger back will cost (you guessed it) $129! 😛
Not a chance
I agree. The Exchange support itself is a significant feature addition, at least from a marketing POV if nothing else, so they'll be charging for the update. One could even argue that a noticeable addition of stability and performance is a feature, one not often found in a new OS 🙄
Hard to justify full price for a partial OS release though so $99 sounds plausible... I wish them luck if they try for more.
I agree. The Exchange support itself is a significant feature addition, at least from a marketing POV if nothing else, so they'll be charging for the update. One could even argue that a noticeable addition of stability and performance is a feature, one not often found in a new OS 🙄
Hard to justify full price for a partial OS release though so $99 sounds plausible... I wish them luck if they try for more.
it's sounding like a pretty significant upgrade, even if it's all under the hood and excites us developers more than users. I would be very shocked to hear them giving it away for free, even if it were very trivial. Apple is great but they're a greedy company like everyone else 😛
It definitely won't be free. I can tell you one thing; if they charge $129 for Snow Leopard, it's going to be the most pirated version of OS X.
My bet is that is will be a low cost upgrade if you have Leaoprd but the standard price for Tiger and Panther users. So $129 list price but 1/2 off for Lepoard users. I doubt Apple has decided on a price yet because they do not yet know the final feature set
From the way that I see it, this company misled its people by saying that their operating system is less expensive. When you look across the road and see all of the maintenance they have done to the OS, it's nothing but that and a few apps here and there.
Total= $516 in 5 years & they criticize Microsoft for being expensive.
It seems that I am weeping but it's just that I like to see the reality of things.
Apple needs to start playing fair with their old customers.
I've been a apple user since 2K.
Pardon my mistakes but I am Hispanic and my son fix my post a bit. 😱
Total= $516 in 5 years & they criticize Microsoft for being expensive.
It seems that I am weeping but it's just that I like to see the reality of things.
Apple needs to start playing fair with their old customers.
I've been a apple user since 2K.
Pardon my mistakes but I am Hispanic and my son fix my post a bit. 😱
definitely sold as a new OS. it's 10.6, not an update to 10.5
microsoft takes years to update their OS'es with a high retail price tag. apple has been releasing a new OS every year with a better price tag. i don't see that as misleading. as a consumer, you aren't forced into paying for the latest and greatest OS. i think it's awesome that apple keeps putting out such awesome updates so quickly.
yellow
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You already posted this exact info earlier in the thread.
No need to post it again. And again.
ImNoSuperMan
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My guess is either free or <60,70$ for existing leopard users and 50 to 129 for every one else.
But on second thoughts I dont think apple will use this sort of different pricing for 10.6 depending on your current OSX version. It`ll most probably be around 40-70$ for each and every one no matter what OS you are using.
But on second thoughts I dont think apple will use this sort of different pricing for 10.6 depending on your current OSX version. It`ll most probably be around 40-70$ for each and every one no matter what OS you are using.
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there is NO WAY that this will be a full priced os ($99-129) for the folks who were swindled into buying the ultra buggy 10.5, NO WAY.
10.6 is simply a way to drop PPC. Create an ultra-buggy os (10.5), then later blame PPC support for the bugginess of 10.5 and quickly transition into an os with absolutely no PPC support.
The only way SNOW LEOPARD will be a full price os is IF IT RUNS ON ANY INTEL MECHINE, not just Macs. This day will come, sooner or later.
10.6 is simply a way to drop PPC. Create an ultra-buggy os (10.5), then later blame PPC support for the bugginess of 10.5 and quickly transition into an os with absolutely no PPC support.
The only way SNOW LEOPARD will be a full price os is IF IT RUNS ON ANY INTEL MECHINE, not just Macs. This day will come, sooner or later.
flyinmac
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By all means, this update should be free. But, since this is the new Apple we're talking about, it won't be.
OS 10.1 was a free upgrade for those who had 10.0. The reason being that 10.1 made 10.0 what it should have been.
10.6 is going to apparently finally have some clean up work in it. This clean up work should have been there all along. So, by all rights, it should be a free update just like 10.1 was.
After-all, their only advertised feature is that they are removing bloated code and optimizing it??????
But, this is the new Apple. They'll charge us for it just because they can, and they know that everyone will buy it anyway.
OS 10.1 was a free upgrade for those who had 10.0. The reason being that 10.1 made 10.0 what it should have been.
10.6 is going to apparently finally have some clean up work in it. This clean up work should have been there all along. So, by all rights, it should be a free update just like 10.1 was.
After-all, their only advertised feature is that they are removing bloated code and optimizing it??????
But, this is the new Apple. They'll charge us for it just because they can, and they know that everyone will buy it anyway.
You guys are seriously missing the point here with the 'lack of no new features' idea.
What about Quicktime X?
Apple say it's a 'new' media application so therefore they are most likely redesigning Quicktime to be more modern and a more efficient media player.
Quicktime is one of the remaining cores of the operating system that is dying to be modernized. And seriously Apple no more of the 'Buy Quicktime Pro' crap. Make QT FREE as it should be! Maybe then Quicktime will start to dominate over Windows Media Player once again.
What about Quicktime X?
Apple say it's a 'new' media application so therefore they are most likely redesigning Quicktime to be more modern and a more efficient media player.
Quicktime is one of the remaining cores of the operating system that is dying to be modernized. And seriously Apple no more of the 'Buy Quicktime Pro' crap. Make QT FREE as it should be! Maybe then Quicktime will start to dominate over Windows Media Player once again.
flyinmac
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That's not a feature of OS X. Quicktime is available for Windows. It's available for all versions of OS X (I just got the notice to upgrade to the latest version on my old 10.3.9 machine).
So, definitely not a selling point for the new OS version.
And, it just means I'll have to spend yet another $30 to unlock the editing and saving features of Quicktime Pro.
I'll Guarantee you that Quicktime X will be available for every platform that Quicktime 7.5 is.
Lyra
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You can bet it won't cost $50.
It's going to be $129
Why?
Well, Apple will probably include ONE MAJOR big feature that people will WANT to have. Something they'll say they've been working on for ages and now it's ready.
Something like running PC apps on a mac without any BootCamp or 3rd party app.
It will cost what it will cost, but personally I think what's going to happen is a lot of re-structural work that will boost the speed incredibly. Maybe by then we'll have dedicated RAM that will store the entire OS X for instant boot up and we'll simply use most GUI intensive processes via the graphic cards that will be much more powerful by that time.
In short, we'll have what will seem a much faster mac.
They'll reorganize a lot of major issues that might be processor intensive and finally end up with something that might work a bit differently under the hood.
I don't quite understand why they are ditching the G5 series so soon, but then it seems that it's THAT different. Rosetta will be gone and everything will be much faster.
I still don't think it's fair to leave the G5 users in the dust.
I personally am getting tired of buying the newest and best machines from apple. I've got a MacBook Pro Santa Rosa, and to be honest, I'm not feeling the vibe to go out and buy another mac.
Save one.... I had a MacMini which I gave to my dad, it was a Core Duo. The day I hear they'll discontinue it, is when I'll buy another one. I loved it so much it was AWESOME!!
It's going to be $129
Why?
Well, Apple will probably include ONE MAJOR big feature that people will WANT to have. Something they'll say they've been working on for ages and now it's ready.
Something like running PC apps on a mac without any BootCamp or 3rd party app.
It will cost what it will cost, but personally I think what's going to happen is a lot of re-structural work that will boost the speed incredibly. Maybe by then we'll have dedicated RAM that will store the entire OS X for instant boot up and we'll simply use most GUI intensive processes via the graphic cards that will be much more powerful by that time.
In short, we'll have what will seem a much faster mac.
They'll reorganize a lot of major issues that might be processor intensive and finally end up with something that might work a bit differently under the hood.
I don't quite understand why they are ditching the G5 series so soon, but then it seems that it's THAT different. Rosetta will be gone and everything will be much faster.
I still don't think it's fair to leave the G5 users in the dust.
I personally am getting tired of buying the newest and best machines from apple. I've got a MacBook Pro Santa Rosa, and to be honest, I'm not feeling the vibe to go out and buy another mac.
Save one.... I had a MacMini which I gave to my dad, it was a Core Duo. The day I hear they'll discontinue it, is when I'll buy another one. I loved it so much it was AWESOME!!
Oh yeah, it will most likely cost money.
I don't believe it should cost money (based on what has been released on 10.6 so far).
They update the kernel to finally be 64-bit compatible and to be multi-threaded.
Quicktime X is a "filler" to add on the list. It's nothing special IMO. I personally don't use Quicktime (unless I absolutely have to). It seems that Quicktime X will fix many of the crashes while playing back videos, although, IMO, it's something that should have been fixed a long time ago.
OpenCL appears to be a new API for developers, and the only real "new" thing I see on the list. What I mean by this is that I can't think of any API for Windows or Linux that aims to do the same thing. This is the only real thing that is something that belongs in a new release that brings something to the table that is not available in other OSes.
While I feel that OpenCL, multithreaded 64-bit kernel are great things, and things that are worthy of a new OS. I feel that the other thing they tout, efficiency, performance, and stability, are not things worthy of a new OS. Instead, they are things that I would expect to see in an update, and these are things that SHOULD have been focused on in Leopard during development. Instead, Apple chose to focus on features, and now they plan to hit us up again by charging us for what should have been Leopard. I'm not trying to minimize OpenCL and a multithreaded 64-bit kernel. Those are great things. But, if they're dedicating much of this release towards stability, efficiency, and performance, it should have also been present during the development of Leopard.
I don't believe it should cost money (based on what has been released on 10.6 so far).
They update the kernel to finally be 64-bit compatible and to be multi-threaded.
Quicktime X is a "filler" to add on the list. It's nothing special IMO. I personally don't use Quicktime (unless I absolutely have to). It seems that Quicktime X will fix many of the crashes while playing back videos, although, IMO, it's something that should have been fixed a long time ago.
OpenCL appears to be a new API for developers, and the only real "new" thing I see on the list. What I mean by this is that I can't think of any API for Windows or Linux that aims to do the same thing. This is the only real thing that is something that belongs in a new release that brings something to the table that is not available in other OSes.
While I feel that OpenCL, multithreaded 64-bit kernel are great things, and things that are worthy of a new OS. I feel that the other thing they tout, efficiency, performance, and stability, are not things worthy of a new OS. Instead, they are things that I would expect to see in an update, and these are things that SHOULD have been focused on in Leopard during development. Instead, Apple chose to focus on features, and now they plan to hit us up again by charging us for what should have been Leopard. I'm not trying to minimize OpenCL and a multithreaded 64-bit kernel. Those are great things. But, if they're dedicating much of this release towards stability, efficiency, and performance, it should have also been present during the development of Leopard.
UltimateSyn
macrumors 603
I could see them charging $49 for current Leopard users because it's a stability release, but it would be worth $129 if they charged that. They could, but probably won't, release it Free to current Leopard users and $129 for any previous OS users (Snow Leopard obviously including all features of previous versions). Ehh, they'll probably charge $129 anyways, and I won't like it, but hell, it's NEW, and FASTER(!) and MORE STABLE!! 😀
BillyBobBongo
macrumors 68030
They'll charge...I'll pay! Oh, if only I had a mind of my own! 😉
I reckon it'll be a bit cheaper than Leopard was though.
I reckon it'll be a bit cheaper than Leopard was though.
flyinmac
macrumors 68040
Great... We've gone from fast and fierce to cuddly.
I can see the marketing now... I'm a Mac, and I'm soft and cuddly. Take me home and hold me.
Work, well I'll get it done after I'm done grooming myself and chasing my tail. I'm sure you won't mind the wait. I'm so cute.