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doug in albq

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In more ways than the obvious ones.

I upgraded from 10.6.1 to 10.5.8 over the weekend. My speedy, properly functioning Mac is back!
 
I don't have any problems other than my macbook refusing to stay asleep if I leave the screen open or monitor plugged in.

Not exactly Vista style frustration by any means....
 
I don't have any problems other than my macbook refusing to stay asleep if I leave the screen open or monitor plugged in.

Not exactly Vista style frustration by any means....

"if i'm not having problems, everyone else's problems are irrelevant"
 
I upgraded from 10.5.8 to 10.6 and my speedy, properly functioning Mac is even more speedy and just as functional.
 
It's probably due to the fact that Apple tried to change too much too fast, just like how MS tried to change too many subsystems too fast with vista. Not many new features, but a new audio,video, and something else subsystem make for a whole lot of issues, no matter what kernel you're running.
 
How many of these threads do we need?

Snow Leopard has problems, but didn't Tiger until 10.4.2? Didn't Leopard until 10.5.2?

Who has used 10.0? or 10.1 or 10.2

Snow Leopard is way better than any of those three. Yes it has problems, but I wouldn't call it Vista just yet...
 
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I agree Snow Leopard has it's problems (none of which I have personally experienced), but it is better than Leopard's initial release in which iTunes used 50% of the processor to play a song.

And it is NOWHERE near the failure that is Vista. Every OS has problems, its just the nature of very large complex programming projects. Something is bound to get overlooked.

But instead of whining about your problems why don't you try submitting them to Apple so that they can fix them with future releases. Mac OS X Snow Leopard Feedback
 
This is a useless thread. Try and post something a little more constructive next time. :confused:
 
Snow Leopard has been the least problematic major OS X update for me, and I've been updating since the start. I work on or maintain four computers, and I've had just a couple small issues. From what I've read and the amount of threads on problems, people in general have had fewer issues than in the past.

I think most of the issues come from people who have installed hacks or haxies that operate at a low level of the OS. Also, printer and scanner drivers were a bigger annoyance than in the past (in part because they released it a month early), but most of those problems have been fixed.
 
Not any more than "If I'm having problems, then others should too, and the entire OS is crap and everyone should be as mad as me"

Who is saying this? People are just getting irate because their problems are being discounted as trivial because heaven forfend someone criticize Apple.
 
Great DIET thread, made with 95% fewer new ideas.

Less filling and satisfying that a REAL new thread.
 
Who is saying this? People are just getting irate because their problems are being discounted as trivial because heaven forfend someone criticize Apple.

I didn't say anyone said it.

I was merely pointing out that

I don't have any problems other than my macbook refusing to stay asleep if I leave the screen open or monitor plugged in.

Not exactly Vista style frustration by any means....

Does NOT equal

"if i'm not having problems, everyone else's problems are irrelevant"
 
Who is saying this? People are just getting irate because their problems are being discounted as trivial because heaven forfend someone criticize Apple.

Umm, the OP is. He's equating it to Vista in the title, which in this community is akin to the Scarlet Letter. He's completely discounting the masses of people who aren't having problems with their installation of Snowy.


Secondly, and probably most importantly, it's not like Apple's sitting on their thumbs when it comes to those having problems with their install of 10.6. Or, have you missed the articles on the 10.6.2 beta that have been posted?
 
Umm, the OP is. He's equating it to Vista in the title, which in this community is akin to the Scarlet Letter. He's completely discounting the masses of people who aren't having problems with their installation of Snowy.

just like loads of people had no issues with Vista, you mean?
 
"if i'm not having problems, everyone else's problems are irrelevant"

More like "I'm having problems, that means the rest of the world must be, therefore this system sucks" from the OP.

Does it have flaws, of course it does its millions of lines of code. Is it as bad a vista? Never in my experience have I had the same amount of frustration as that OS.
 
How many of these threads do we need?

Snow Leopard has problems, but didn't Tiger until 10.4.2? Didn't Leopard until 10.5.2?
Retail 10.4 and 10.5 worked fine here and in my test environment of PowerPC and Intel machines at the time. 10.4.4 on Intel was solid as well for being the first out.

Who has used 10.0? or 10.1 or 10.2
Sadly my experience only goes back to 10.2.8 and it worked well enough for being the end of the pinstripe Aqua era.

More like "I'm having problems, that means the rest of the world must be, therefore this system sucks" from the OP.

Does it have flaws, of course it does its millions of lines of code. Is it as bad a vista? Never in my experience have I had the same amount of frustration as that OS.
I think that Vista comes up as the closest comparison. The hype machine was tuned to off and Apple just tried to slide it out the door quietly.

Snow Leopard was supposed to feel like a refinement and it was marketed as such. Sadly 10.5.8 feels like a much better experience. Leopard was just so good and we've been more or less let down by 10.6. In my opinion Apple should have waited until the iMacs were ready to ship Snow Leopard. It really needs some bugs sorted out.

The quiet launch is turning out to have quite the negative effect.
 
Snow Leopard was supposed to feel like a refinement and it was marketed as such. Sadly 10.5.8 feels like a much better experience. Leopard was just so good and we've been more or less let down by 10.6. In my opinion Apple should have waited until the iMacs were ready to ship Snow Leopard. It really needs some bugs sorted out.

The quiet launch is turning out to have quite the negative effect.

I disagree. Snow Leopard does feel like a refinement. I get better performance and user experience with Snow Leopard than I did with 10.5.8. I just proved that to myself by running an old backup.

Do you have any experience testing something as massive an OS? The test lab and beta testers can only test so many configurations. At some point, you just have to release the OS and see what happens in the real world. You hope no major bugs show up but you know bugs we will show up that you never saw in testing.

Snow Leopard, for the vast majority of users, is just fine.

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