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Snow Leopard Screenshots Show Little New

numbsafari said:
Good question. Instead of having a unique download for each developer they could have each developer enter a unique key when they install/activate the software. When that key is entered they could then either sign/watermark the necessary files and/or use that key to sign/watermark the images as they are drawn or capped.

That way they wouldn't have any unique downloads and it would require the person to circumvent a copy protection mechanism (ahem, DMCA) in order to get around it... if they even realized it was there. They might be harder to track down, but if they were Apple would be in a much better position to go after them on DMCA grounds as well as NDA violation.
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Yes, but that would defeat the whole purpose of their developer seeds. You are implying that they would have some authentication built into the SnowLeopard dev seeds, and then remove it when they go gold. Well even the removing of this authentication piece could cause unforeseen problems after its removal that Apple would want to test (the whole point of seeding!)

The only changes that Apple wants to make between the last seed and master that is pressed to the DVD is to add any last 'graphic' look in the form of image or movie files. (The new side dock, and the intro space 'Welcome' movie in the GM of Leopard)

Ultimately, they would have to be looking at implementing a system-wide "validation" piece that would be present to the consumer as well, which I don't see them doing.
 
People who think that Snow Leopard is just SP1 or a bug-fix don't understand what SL is all about. OS X is really two things: An operating system, and applications. Leopard was a huge update to the operating system providing major new APIs for developers - so major that some apps simply refuse to run on anything less than Leopard and believe me it devs a lot to force users to use a minimum OS that new. Leopard also brought along some major changes to the app side, but not too much.

What SL does is make very large changes to the OS side again, but this time instead of focusing on features, it now focuses on giving developers a new major set of tools to increase performance. Note - its not that existing apps will run faster. Its new APIs that developers will have to use to do so.

So why would you want SL? Only for three reasons:
1) An app you use requires or perhaps runs a lot better on SL
2) You use Exchange and want the best integration you can get.
3) You enjoy using the latest OS.
 
On the System Profiler screen shot posted by sevenmac.com - twice it's misspelled:

"Leoaprds"

granted - if legit, this is an alpha release of the OS, but a typo like that makes me doubt the authenticity of all the screen shots right off the bat.

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Those videos look real. You cant tell much of a different between Leopard and Snow Leopard. The only differences I see are the 64-bit processes in Activity Monitor and where you can choose which space an application is in on the dock. It looks cool so far, but I don't think I would pay $130 just for that. Has anyone noticed any other cool features besides these?
 
akac said:
People who think that Snow Leopard is just SP1 or a bug-fix don't understand what SL is all about. OS X is really two things: An operating system, and applications. Leopard was a huge update to the operating system providing major new APIs for developers - so major that some apps simply refuse to run on anything less than Leopard and believe me it devs a lot to force users to use a minimum OS that new. Leopard also brought along some major changes to the app side, but not too much.

What SL does is make very large changes to the OS side again, but this time instead of focusing on features, it now focuses on giving developers a new major set of tools to increase performance. Note - its not that existing apps will run faster. Its new APIs that developers will have to use to do so.

So why would you want SL? Only for three reasons:
1) An app you use requires or perhaps runs a lot better on SL
2) You use Exchange and want the best integration you can get.
3) You enjoy using the latest OS.
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4) You get to see exactly what a Cocoa Operating System is all about and were too young to live in a time when NeXTStep/Openstep were around to show how it stood out from the pack.
 
im excited, i pray that its a free update tho, like 10.1

also, whats the song on the second video? i believe its from a matrix score, but i looked through all of mine and i cant find it! and its driving me crazy! help please :)
 
MarkMS said:
Same here.
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Every Apple application moved to Cocoa will have a new Services playground showing how much more interactive and leveraged each application makes your work output greater in productivity.

What Openstep users took for granted, OS X SL users will slowly get their heads around and ask ``Why the hell did we have to wait until 10.6 for this?''
 
YES, Apple, PLEASE FILL THE GAPING HOLE!!!

Yvan256 said:
Fingers crossed for the nVidia 9400GM in an updated Mac mini.
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Ditto. Many of us are more than ready for an update. My PowerMac is aging but now days I cannot justify another loaded top end machine. I simply do not need the power.

IMO, anything less than a 3GHz quad i7 in the Mini or iMac will harken back too the Apple days of old when users are forced to eat table crumbs whilst PC user enjoy the latest hardware. A simple 940 processor will suffice. Save the Xeon i7 for the MacPro. Currently we have to take a leap from the red headed step child known as the Core2 Duo to 8 core Xeons in the MacPro. Huh? Yeah, there IS a HUGE, GAPING HOLE the size of the Grand Canyon.

Please do not let us down, Steve. Those days should be long gone. Keep looking forward; TO THE FUTURE AND BEYOND!!!

Sorry, just had a Star Trek/Buzz Lightyear moment. I'm alright now.
:D
 
Mudbug said:
On the System Profiler screen shot posted by sevenmac.com - twice it's misspelled:

"Leoaprds"

granted - if legit, this is an alpha release of the OS, but a typo like that makes me doubt the authenticity of all the screen shots right off the bat.

uber_cap.jpg
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I ran that release back in June... it's legit. That version of SL is all over the torrent sites.
 
Having never had the pleasure of using NeXTStep, could you please elaborate on your comment?
I'm fascinated by the history of OSX and it's Cocoa foundations and would like to hear from those who have used NeXTStep as to how it compares to Leopard.

mdriftmeyer said:
4) You get to see exactly what a Cocoa Operating System is all about and were too young to live in a time when NeXTStep/Openstep were around to show how it stood out from the pack.
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I can't see a completely free upgrade, but a $40-$60 upgrade would be a nice change. I respect the platform and buy each OS at retail and install on appropriate hardware. We need some wow or else they should just make it free.
 
AidenShaw said:
Apple 10.5: Ship 32-bit kernel, and knock Windows for the issues that a 64-bit kernel introduces.

Apple 10.6: Ship 64-bit kernel, and admit that Windows did it right the first time?
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You're on the mark there. Maybe Phil will have some RDF gas piped in to the room.
 
jonbravo77 said:
To my understanding. Snow Leopard is not really anything special for the everyday consumer. What it will do is fix a lot of security issues the Leopard has that everyday consumers don't know about but ppl in the IT industry do.
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You mean that Leopard isn't the bulletproof, perfect OS that Apple proclaims it to be? Amazing.

Actually, I think Snow Leopard will be a much bigger deal than the vast majority of the useless "features" added into Leopard.
 
jonbravo77 said:
I can tell you that I won't upgrade for this reason. I use an Exchange and happen to like Entourage for it. Makes my life easier not having to open multiple apps to get to what I need. And what does "connect natively to and Exchange server" mean anyway. Nothing native about it since the Exchange servers are Windows based.
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You are in the minority.

I still hate how Entourage doesn't correctly interpret the headers from messages sent via my iPhone 3G. ANNOYING!
 
Why does the Energy Saver icon in this image show an incandescent bulb? I thought that they now had an image of a compact fluorescent instead (or is that just on newer hardware, not new versions of OS X?)
 
I didn't really anticipate Snow Leopard looking different from Leopard.
In fact, I somehow doubt any future version of OS/X will look much different.
Maybe in 5 or 10 years when OS/11 (or whatever it'll be called) comes out things will get a refresh...
Not that I'm complaining about OS/X, though. I like it and it's really the only thing that keeps me buying Apple computers (not at all happy with the way things have been going lately with the hardware).
 
I sure hope my core duo MBP can run 10.6

10.7 and beyond... I dont care.

I just want a slimmed down OS for my machine (which I'll keep til it dies)
 
im excited, i pray that its a free update tho, like 10.1
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That would be awesome. Even if it is just an under-the-surface upgrade, I can't see myself buying it. I was hesitant to spring so much for Leopard and I got that discounted. I hope Snow Leopard is like 10.1, 9.1, 9.2, 8.6, and 8.1: FREE! I mean, it's not like they are naming it 10.6 Lion after all, it has the previous upgrade in its name for goodness sake! I can't see them charging for this upgrade, it just isn't really logical on the advertising and commercial side, unless they surprise everyone with a $120 bonus thing that no one can live without (like the transparent dock...HAHAHA! Yeah...right...).
 
Final Cut et al

If there is no 64-bit Carbon support, then what will happen to Apple's pro apps that are still written in Carbon; are they going to stay 32-bit? I would have thought that something like FCP could do with moving to 64 bit.
 
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