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Snow Leopard to be Released Unfinished?

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miles01110 said:
This has to be the most retarded thread on MR today. Face it- SL builds are private that just happened to get leaked.
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Right. And the moment they were leaked they went public.

But it's obviously too difficult a concept for some people
here to understand.

Would it help if I use crayons for my next posting? 😉
 
Infrared said:
Right. And the moment they were leaked they went public.

But it's obviously too difficult a concept for some people
here to understand.

Would it help if I use crayons for my next posting? 😉
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Ugh you are really a sad person if you have nothing to do with your time besides argue this. Everyone who has spoken on this topic disagrees with you. Now go find something else to do.
 
Infrared said:
So what are you doing here then? 😉
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There is a difference between being proven wrong and still trying to convince yourself and others that you are right, and arguing a point you know is right. You fall into the proven wrong but still think you are right category. That = sad.
 
Mindless banter over definition is a common tactic for the losing side of an argument.

Move along folks, nothing more to see here.
 
Infrared said:
That makes the words
"publicly available builds" wholly accurate.
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I guess man. Either way will SL be ready? Sure. It's ready when Apple says it's ready. Your original post was based on there being no testing on SL. The illegal copy of SL that you are looking at is proof that someone is testing it (and leaking it). The results of those tests? It is a work in progress, thus QT X doesn't seem done because it is not done.

Can you compare MS and Apple's approach to producing an OS? Absolutely not. If giving out a beta to millions of user is a "...great way of tracking down those elusive bugs" then why has Vista been so piss poor? Yes, Leopard had some issues to some people but overall most people were fine with it.

Apple still has July, August and September (cause they almost always release at the end of the month) to get there **** together.
To answer your question. You are being rather pessimistic.
 
Back to the topic, just as other software releases, SL will be released with loads of bugs unresolved. But those bugs should not be blockers defined by the quality control in Apple. We will never see any software releases without bugs, in a near future at least.
 
Because Apple doesn't have to test their OS on a variety of hardware not in control by them, Apple can keep a close lid on the development.
Microsoft has to release Betas to the public really.... that's the only way to get feedback on the infinite hardware configs of PC's out there.

The only real public release of a Beta of Mac OS X, was the Mac OS X "Public Beta" (Kodiak) way back in September 2000.
For the rest all betas were developer builds.

TBO all X.X.0 releases are pretty buggy. Not all developers are ready, and some hardware drivers are not finalized, and Apple needs the massive user-experince feedback after the new Cat has been released.
For home use: Get it right away!
For pro-use: wait for the X.X.2 update... 😉
 
MacsRgr8 said:
Because Apple doesn't have to test their OS on a variety of hardware not in control by them, Apple can keep a close lid on the development.
Microsoft has to release Betas to the public really.... that's the only way to get feedback on the infinite hardware configs of PC's out there.

The only real public release of a Beta of Mac OS X, was the Mac OS X "Public Beta" (Kodiak) way back in September 2000.
For the rest all betas were developer builds.

TBO all X.X.0 releases are pretty buggy. Not all developers are ready, and some hardware drivers are not finalized, and Apple needs the massive user-experince feedback after the new Cat has been released.
For home use: Get it right away!
For pro-use: wait for the X.X.2 update... 😉
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Well I'd hope an OS that has few end-user features and that has been mostly worked on for stability/performance would be have few bugs on its release.

From what I know is Apple has had two years to put out a new OS. And this one is probably the most lackluster one - I'd figure it would be the most stable of 10.x.0 release ever.
 
which past OSX version was finished when they were first released?

apple always put out beta as final, and takes 6 months to fix it to a somewhat mature status.
 
Infrared said:
But it's obviously too difficult a concept for some people
here to understand.
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Apparently it is for ONE person. Because YOU. ARE. WRONG.

I suspect the only way you'll seriously get some to be on your side of this issue is if you create an account under a different name and post to this thread.
 
Infrared said:
If I intend to be rich, but am in fact poor, I don't call myself "rich".
Whatever the intentions, the word is not accurate.

Whatever Apple's intentions were, you cannot truthfully deny that
there are builds of SL available to the public. That makes the words
"publicly available builds" wholly accurate.

Now that that's settled, may we please move on to the more important
subject of Snow Leopard's readiness?

Thank you.
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Sorry friend, you're wrong. There are NO publically available builds of SL. There are privately available builds, to developers and there are thieves. Several people have tried to explain this simple fact to you.

SL will be ready, once it's made publc.

Have a nice day.
 
Infrared said:
Right. And the moment they were leaked they went public.

But it's obviously too difficult a concept for some people
here to understand.

Would it help if I use crayons for my next posting? 😉
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Yup. That's a good option for you.

hint: you're wrong. it's time to man up, admit it and move on. Or keep playing with your crayons and screaming that your right ;-)

good luck.

oh yeah, SL will be ready, when it goes public.
 
iGuardian said:
We had the same problem with Leopard, didn't we? 10.5.0 was, truely, a public beta release. It was plauged with bugs, etc. But it was all polished up by 10.5.1, they even changed the GUI.

It's just Apple's way of doing things, I suppose.
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No, it wasn't all polished up until 10.5.4. 10.5.1(two weeks after 10.5) just fixed some of the killer bugs that 10.5 shipped with. Even if you want to claim it was 'polished' with 10.5.2, (which did make some real GUI changes), that came out Feb 11, 3.5 months after release. 10.5.1 did reduce the amount of transparency in menus, but that just demonstrates that Apple goofed with the levels when they shipped 10.5.0.
 
What the hell is going on, everyone chill. Anyone is entitled to their own opinion on reality and what they make of any part of it, can we not just leave it at that?
 
Nitrocide said:
What the hell is going on, everyone chill. Anyone is entitled to their own opinion on reality and what they make of any part of it, can we not just leave it at that?
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Not when it involves legalities. There are different interpretations of the law, thats for sure, but in this case there is only one. The "available" snow leopard downloads out side of the apple website are illegal, and in no way representations of the final product.
 
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