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Snow Leopard's Boot Camp Includes HFS+ Windows Drivers
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Thank God.
This was a huge issue for me when I first installed Windows 7 to a partition. Luckily, a friend referred me to some third party drivers that allowed me to transfer files across the partition.
This was a huge issue for me when I first installed Windows 7 to a partition. Luckily, a friend referred me to some third party drivers that allowed me to transfer files across the partition.
About time, hopefully they do a better job at supporting operating systems than Mac Drive does. I imagine the driver should work fine on PCs as well.
Pretty sure thats already a listed feature in 10.6
Pretty sure thats already a listed feature in 10.6
OK, seriously, just how many of you think that Windows is a cesspool of virii? If you update window regularly and don't install "awesome-p0rn-movie.exe", you won't have very many problems.
I don't care much for Windows either, but c'mon! Full read/write support for HFS+ is a good thing!
I don't care much for Windows either, but c'mon! Full read/write support for HFS+ is a good thing!
Are you insane? Macs cant get Windows viruses! A windows virus simply wont work on a Mac because they're in the DLL or .EXE format which Mac's cant, and will never be able to run
Im sorry but this warrants a facepalm.
Awesome. This would make Macdrive and such obsolete, which would be great in my book as I am currently wanting to do whatever I can to spite Mediafour over their money-grabbing nonsense of eventually forcing people to upgrade (and pay again) to run Macdrive on Win7.
And please, give us the option of full read/write support. That way it will shut up whiners on here that are scared to death of a virus, and will allow us that actually want/need full support to have that, too.
I call you whiners for a few reasons:
a) I have had numerous windows machines and bootcamp installs over the past 4 years, and the only time I have ever found a virus was when my machine scanned another computer on the network and found one on another computer
b) I have had Vista and Win7 running in Boot Camp this past year, with no anti-virus. That has been with the machine in and out of public networks, visiting some questionable websites and downloading torrents. And I have been 100% fine
c) I have had said Vista install running with Macdrive (full read/write) for about a year, and have never ever had the slightest problem or worry of viruses getting between the two.
d) Remember, Macs are still a small market share, and people are not writing viruses for them at this point. Plus, if you hit an infected site, it's going to see a WINDOWS machine, and attempt to infect a WINDOWS install.
Personally, I am not in the least bit scared of my Mac getting infected by Windows. If it does, well, that is why I keep regular Time Machine backups, and if I ever were to get infected, the 30 minutes to restore is fine in my book as the price to pay in the remote event that something happens...
And please, give us the option of full read/write support. That way it will shut up whiners on here that are scared to death of a virus, and will allow us that actually want/need full support to have that, too.
I call you whiners for a few reasons:
a) I have had numerous windows machines and bootcamp installs over the past 4 years, and the only time I have ever found a virus was when my machine scanned another computer on the network and found one on another computer
b) I have had Vista and Win7 running in Boot Camp this past year, with no anti-virus. That has been with the machine in and out of public networks, visiting some questionable websites and downloading torrents. And I have been 100% fine
c) I have had said Vista install running with Macdrive (full read/write) for about a year, and have never ever had the slightest problem or worry of viruses getting between the two.
d) Remember, Macs are still a small market share, and people are not writing viruses for them at this point. Plus, if you hit an infected site, it's going to see a WINDOWS machine, and attempt to infect a WINDOWS install.
Personally, I am not in the least bit scared of my Mac getting infected by Windows. If it does, well, that is why I keep regular Time Machine backups, and if I ever were to get infected, the 30 minutes to restore is fine in my book as the price to pay in the remote event that something happens...
What the hell is "virii?" The Oxford American Dictionary says "viruses." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_of_virus#Virus)
Remember this is reading from the Windows side; so some flavor of Windows is running. The propagation vector is through Windows.
Who cares about propagate if it has already infected your Windows side. That's over. If the virus/trojan/etc. objective is to steal you personal information, then reading is all the access it needs. (e.g., pull out your address book and send what looks like a personal email from you to your friends as a transmission vector, pick up your cookies from your accounts, etc. ). The virus has read/write access on the windows side if you haven't stopped it there. It can already get some disk space and download more code at that point. You are then at the moment of trying to limit its access at that point after your first line of defensive failed. Read only access is still access.
Same reason why it is good practice to have a separate "Administration" account from the account you use everyday. In that set up much of that account's info and the more sensitive "root" info is read protected from the user inside of Mac OS X.
If the driver is aware of permissions on HFS+ and the accounts on Windows have limited access that would more match the standard security policy when in Mac OS X mode (it is active). However, if this driver "blows past" all the permissions on the HFS+ volume that is a bad thing. You've deactivated security and never a good thing.
If there is no "need" for access (e.g., MacOS X code, libraries, OS files , etc.) shouldn't even have read. Multiple layers of security are most effective.
Are you insane? Macs cant get Windows viruses! A windows virus simply wont work on a Mac because they're in the DLL or .EXE format which Mac's cant, and will never be able to run
Im sorry but this warrants a facepalm.
I believe he was talking about being booted into the windows side, in which case yes he will be reading .DLL, .EXE or whatever the hell else he downloads. And depending upon the virus it could wipe out the Mac partitions if it had RW attributes.
I dunno, we tried boot camp, parallels and VMware for months, and:
Parallels was too weak, but coherence was very slick
Boot Camp was just, well, only as good as using windows gets.
VMware allowed us to config the oomph we need to run Autodesk Inventor, without having to leave the OSX environment completely.
Parallels had the best cross-platform file access of the three though. VMware we still fight with occasionally. Windows via BootCamp was always a hassle.
Maybe this will change things.
Parallels was too weak, but coherence was very slick
Boot Camp was just, well, only as good as using windows gets.
VMware allowed us to config the oomph we need to run Autodesk Inventor, without having to leave the OSX environment completely.
Parallels had the best cross-platform file access of the three though. VMware we still fight with occasionally. Windows via BootCamp was always a hassle.
Maybe this will change things.
Read-only isn't too bad. The problem of course is that I'll have to have a 200GB NTFS partition and a 200GB HFS+ partition, in Windows I have to read the files from the HFS+ partition and write them to the NTFS drive, then the opposite on the mac side.
No, I cant use FAT32 since I am dealing with files larger than 4GB. I really wish there was some universal file system that I could use from all OSes... maybe the one Oracle was working on to replace ext3, ext4, etc.
No, I cant use FAT32 since I am dealing with files larger than 4GB. I really wish there was some universal file system that I could use from all OSes... maybe the one Oracle was working on to replace ext3, ext4, etc.
It really is a shame that there is no decent universal format. I was hoping for FAT64, but the b*stards in Redmond swooped that up and licensed it as exFAT, and so far ONLY Vista/Win7 can use it.
Come on someone, solve our Formatting woes!
Yeah, I was about to mention the correction myself, but I didn't want to be "THAT guy" . . .
That's great. I hate the lack of HFS in Windows. I can't even use my non FAT32 flash drive on the windows machines in my lab. I actually have 2 partitions now, one for FAT32 and one for HFS (which is much faster for much of what I am backing up).
Nope, check out NTFS-3g. Free NTFS filesystem driver for Mac OS X, no license required.
It can even create NTFS filesystems from scratch!
I think NTFS-3g is good enough and don't really need Apple to build it in. But it would be nice for everyone to have NTFS write support without having to download anything extra, of course.
(zorinlynx just beat me to the punch with NTFS-3G!)
Macs with OS X have been able to write NTFS-formatted partitions for a long time now. See http://macntfs-3g.blogspot.com/. Also Google MacFUSE and MacFusion for more info on getting OS X to handle other non-native formats.
But let's not get too excited about Apple making it possible for Windows to read HFS+ partitions. Doing so gives Windows access to all of your data -- so any spyware that got into Windows would be able to access your unencrypted private files. That would include correspondence or forms with your Social Security number, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, login IDs, passwords, phone number, children's names, medical records, etc.
If you use it, take the appropriate precautions (encryption, limitations on what partitions you let it see if you have multiple, etc.).
A virus could possibly read your personal files, but in order to read any system files, or modify any personal files or system files due to the Unix setup of OS X it would require your OS X admin password.
Its common sense, when you have two Mac users setup on one computer, one user cant simply modify the other users files, its simply not possible without passwords, this isnt Windoze
Read and write to ntfs from mac partition
There is a way to read and write ntfs drives on your Mac partition and it isn't that hard. You can find info about it on the top post here: www.osxpert.blogspot.com
(I didn't really know the rule about posting outside links, but I feel that this can be very helpful. If I'm breaking a rule just tell me and I'll edit it out.)
There is a way to read and write ntfs drives on your Mac partition and it isn't that hard. You can find info about it on the top post here: www.osxpert.blogspot.com
(I didn't really know the rule about posting outside links, but I feel that this can be very helpful. If I'm breaking a rule just tell me and I'll edit it out.)
Ridiculous. That's far too limiting. It's OK as an option for the scaredy-cats, but that would disrupt a lot of common usage patterns.