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Snow Leopard's Boot Camp Includes HFS+ Windows Drivers

arkmannj said:
I'd prefer Read Only HFS+ driver for windows and a Read/wright driver for NTFS under Mac OS X

Maybe the windows driver would have an option with boot-camp if you would like the driver to be Read only or not, for those that need it.
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If apple is making the driver for read write it will be safer than using a third party non made from microsoft to read write NTFS, look NTFS is not safe under mac either.

Mac drive once ago corrupted my mac partition, fortunately I could save my data and re format.

http://netkas.org/?p=92
 
Tastic Bycrom said:
OK, seriously, just how many of you think that Windows is a cesspool of virii? If you update window regularly and don't install "awesome-p0rn-movie.exe", you won't have very many problems.

I don't care much for Windows either, but c'mon! Full read/write support for HFS+ is a good thing!
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+1 QFT

kastenbrust said:
Are you insane? Macs cant get Windows viruses! A windows virus simply wont work on a Mac because they're in the DLL or .EXE format which Mac's cant, and will never be able to run :rolleyes:

Im sorry but this warrants a facepalm.
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+2 QFT

soup4you2 said:
I believe he was talking about being booted into the windows side, in which case yes he will be reading .DLL, .EXE or whatever the hell else he downloads. And depending upon the virus it could wipe out the Mac partitions if it had RW attributes.
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No, not yet, but rather than focus on the virus, how about we focus on the behavior that acquired it instead?

iSee said:
Ridiculous. That's far too limiting. It's OK as an option for the scaredy-cats, but that would disrupt a lot of common usage patterns.
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Yes, it would. OK as an option, please. It's bad behavior and practice that causes infection on a Windows machine, not an up-to-date, patched, virus shielded system, behind a router. Mac users should thank Microsoft and PC users for being the larger target today by the whackers than Apple computers. One day this might change and the Mac kernel won't be able to protect you from your own bad behavior.

Burai said:
Some of you are just hysterical. Here are some handy tips for those of you who are upset that Apple just saved the rest of us some serious aggravation and increased our productivity at the expense of your virgin Mac experience;

1) Install antivirus and spyware protection on your Bootcamp Windows install. You should be doing this anyway. I shouldn't need to have to tell you this.
2) Just don't bother installing the HFS+ driver.
3) Just remove your Bootcamp partition as you're clearly not doing anything useful with it.
4) Keep the Windows OS patched and up-to-date.
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Added a little to this for educational purposes, but QFT, nonetheless.

:apple:
 
When i first heard this I felt sorry for the makers of Macdrive.

Then I remembered how it trashed my Mac partition (twice) after going into hibernation (a reasonable desire, I think), there being no documentation about this rather serious bug I'm pretty sure.

This is fixed now apparently (after years of silence).
 
Asking for a bit much here perhaps, but if they could get it so that the Bootcamp partition used your Mac home folder as the Windows one, that really would be something.
 
NOOOO....

Makes it easier for windows viruses / trojans to steal information on the OSX partition.

Make it limited please.


ChrisA said:
Yes. It means that problems with the PC can now easily spill over onto your Mac.

What I would recommend is NOT giving Windows access to the entire disk. Make a partition with just the data that needs to be shared. For example maybe just your iTunes library. But certainly not the applications or system folders
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Or just use a thumbdrive. 8gb can be had for around $10 now.
 
KingYaba said:
So much for no new features. :rolleyes:
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That word that has been use and quoted in article after article was "concentrate." Concentrating on performance and efficiency rather than user-focused features does not mean "no new features."
Consultant said:
NOOOO....

Makes it easier for windows viruses / trojans to steal information on the OSX partition.

Make it limited please.
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Make it have the OPTION of being limited, please.
 
64 bit linux

soup4you2 said:
Yes, i have mine setup with 3 partitions on the main drive, 1 Mac OS, the other Slackware linux and the other Vista x64.
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Thanks for the info. I have one more question:

I have 64 bit Ubuntu 9. Will it work on Leopard?
 
I'm perfectly happy with using NTFS-3G/MacFuse in OS X for cross-platform transfers. I can pull stuff out of Windows-land and put stuff back in from the mac side. I wouldn't trust Windows with write access to my OS X partition.
 
What about unusable unibody MBP trackpad

Support for the HFS+ is a nice feature, but what about a TON of other problems in the BootCamp? Did they fixed the trackpad driver or the sound driver?
 
I assume that the new version of Boot Camp would allow installations of Windows 7 or Vista?
For me personally, I would only need to see the Mac HD and be able to copy data files from it only. No programs. That sounds really good to me.

Rich :cool:
 
Sounds useful. I'd prefer Read AND Write support. Viruses can wipe out your system, but people really should use common sense & a good anti-virus. Plus, even though Macs might not be able to run Windows viruses, Macs can still pass them on to other computers via e-mail or whatever. Some people seem to forget that. Just my 2¢
 
illegallydead said:
All I'm saying is that in years of running these supposedly "unsafe" environments, I have never had an issue.
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Never had an issue that you know about. If not running any antivirus/security anything... how would you know? Or this is just a statement that the security software has never informed you there was a problem.

OSX ain't infallible either. Are you saying that Apple releasing updates and patches from time to time also means that OSX is unsafe?
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Never said it was. What I'm challenging is the notion that your safe because you haven't had any balant visible indicators. In the window before you got your windows patch/update you WERE vulernable. You may have happened to get lucky before. Hey, Bernie Madoff got lucky for long time... that didn't mean he wasn't running a ponzi scheme.

This is more so layers of security and containing the breach if you happen to get one in a single layer. Also of software that turns security/permissions that are normally "on" to "off".



Patches or no, I am saying that Windows is, in my experience, not the plague that many holier-than-though fanboys on here make it out to be.
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Kind of wonder how these gangs have zombie PC networks with many, many thousands of computers on them if Windows is so inherently secure.


The problem with windows is that it is under constant attack. Can't find the article now but if doing a clean from disk install of windows on many common access ISPs you'll be probe scanned several times before can get the all the recent patches downloaded from Microsoft. [ Ok can put yourself behind a firewall with a home router... but non the less. ] The other problem with windows is that they had RPC bugs (i.e., remote invocation vectors. )

However, yes if have a NTFS mount/read software on the Mac OS X side, again is not a good idea to give access to the Win32 or config/private files of the users on the windows side from the mac side unless "need" access. ( if the disk mounting software blows aways permissions/ACLs then you are disabling security, which generally is bad. )


Please, give me the option of full read/write.
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As said in another response somewhat dubious that "write" really works well ( just as safe as when the Mac OS X native HFS+ is acccessing the bits). Personally I rather have software that wrotes correctly than has more features that doesn't work right when in critical situations. Implementing a FS that isn't destructive over crashes and/or disk glitches is not easy.

And read/write should come with the security model that the underlying file system is susppose to be providing also. If have that to leverage can limit damage and have read/write.

However, in some cases this stuff is a hack that gives the rough approximation that are promptly accessing and writing to the files. It will work as long as don't breathe on it too hard.
 
Ade-iMac-177 said:
I really hope they add full read/write support for NTFS on the mac too.
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Man, this would be really nice... Working for a computer help desk, nothing is more annoying than copying stuff off a Windows drive only to not being able to put it back on.
 
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