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So, apparently the iPhone 5c isn't a 'flop'.

I was against the 5c for a while, but I ended up liking the design and now I want to get one. I'm glad that it is not a flop, in fact I think it adds some character to the iPhone line up. Honestly though, they need to discontinue the 4S. Its just getting too old. I'd say bring the 5c 8GB into the US and drop the 4S from the line up. Then make the 5c 8GB free on a 2 year contract.
 
paul.p said:
This topic is getting old..cheap/broke people buy 5c.."haters gonna hate" blah blah blah ..if u have a 5c u bought it to save money..case closed
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You're either and out of work attorney or you study witchcraft, to speak so definitively for others without conscious or guilt.
 
I actually quite like the feel of the 5C. I wish it were a bit more soft and grippy, but the shape is nice in hand. Still prone to slipping, though, and rattling on some surfaces.

I think easy-peasy's point was simply that Apple would have traditionally brought the 5 from flagship to 2nd in line for $100 less. They did that, however put it in a heavier and less expensive to produce casing, and announced it as a brand new device.

So, the recent lineup has gone like this:

($0 +$100 +$200)
3GS - 4 - 4S
4 - 4S - 5
4S - 5C - 5S

Where we would have expected to find the 5 is the 5C. That's why it's being compared with the 5.

I'm more curious about the next batch of phones, and how the "C" model will play in.
 
I7guy said:
Whatever apple did they don't seem to be doing it anymore. Timmy sounds like a catalyst for change and is not playing: "what would Steve do".
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Which was what lead me to buy my first iPhone, the 5c. I feel like they wanted to do something different. Shake things up a bit so to speak. I support any company willing to defy their own set up standards to try something new. It'll make enemies along the way but it'll catch attention. Caught mine right?
 
Septembersrain said:
Which was what lead me to buy my first iPhone, the 5c. I feel like they wanted to do something different. Shake things up a bit so to speak. I support any company willing to defy their own set up standards to try something new. It'll make enemies along the way but it'll catch attention. Caught mine right?
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Exactly. On internet forums that make their living on all things idevices, there is bound to be mixed reaction from the user community on every single iTopic.

Along the way people such as yourself who previously had no interest in idevices now find themselves sporting a nice looking iphone.
 
Tthomas612 said:
I'll tell you why... Apple tells them that it's premium and it's the best aluminum. Well honestly how much more can aluminum cost over polycarbonate? It's just as Apple says the polycarbonate on the 5c is the best plastic. Well it's plastic just as aluminum is aluminum.

The iPhone 5c is a well built plastic phone. When you hold it compared to a galaxy S4 it feels much sturdier. It's not a pos device by no means.

I'm by no means saying the 5s isn't a good phone because it is, but to say it's much more premium because it's "metal" is completely absurd. I have many soda cans in my trash can right now and those are not "premium."

When you look at the important stuff in our everyday life ... How many has some company made out of aluminum? How much of it is made out of plastic.

Aluminum is cheap it doesn't make something premium and IMHO the 5/5s is a major major design fail.

I don't understand how a device can't be considered premium because its made of aluminum. Besides many other Apple products that are made of aluminum, aircraft, engine blocks and body's, load bearing architectural components and many other things are made with aluminum. It's not the materials but the execution that make the difference between average and premium. Just look at a stamped steel chefs knife at a dollar store and a Wustof chefs knife. Same basic material, cosmically different user experiences. :)
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virginblue4 said:
To all the naysayers out there saying that it was a mistake on Apples behalf releasing the iPhone 5c and the ones saying it isn't selling at all and that they will discontinue it, have a read of this.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...indows-phone-and-every-android-flagship-in-q4

I'm glad it is doing well and am looking forward to future versions of this model.
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This is on the American market which is not representative for the entire world.

Also note that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is 1 year old phone that is replaced by the Samsung Galaxy S5.
 
UBS28 said:
This is on the American market which is not representative for the entire world.

Also note that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is 1 year old phone that is replaced by the Samsung Galaxy S5.
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It doesn't matter how old the S4 is. What matters is that the iPhone 5C is the second most sold smartphone in the US, behind the 5S.
 
The iPhone 5c was designed to generate extra iPhone sales compared to the previous strategy (which was selling the current year and the prior year model). It hasn't done that. The 5c has sold fine, but so did the 4S last year. Apple wanted the 5c to sell substantially more than the 4s last year and to take extra market share from Samsung, etc. Apple clearly expected the phone to sell more in the first few months of launch, as they have admitted they shipped more 5c than they needed and fewer 5s. I own the 5c and like it, but most iPhone users I know don't really understand the "point" of it. The product was a disappointment from a market impact standpoint.
 
Harmonious Zen said:
This, this, this. People who expected the 5c to match or exceed 5s sales were deluding themselves. Consumers aren't stupid. They understand the differences between the two models. They took a model that was a year old and freshened it up into a model that's among the top three sellers at every major carrier in the US.
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To your point, my mom (who never owned a smartphone before) wanted an iPhone. At first I thought that she will lean towards a pink 5c since pink is her favorite color, but she wanted a 5s. She's not tech savy but with a little common sense realized that 5s is a better deal than 5c.

Oh yea she got the gold one, and asked for a pink case just in case :D
 
UBS28 said:
This is on the American market which is not representative for the entire world.
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This. Dilger likes to mix US and world figures willy nilly.

In places like China, the 5C has not done well at all. The iPhone 5 has about 15% of the China market, the 5S about 12%, and the 5C a measly 2%.

One result was that China retailers have reportedly been stuck with a lot of 5C units. (Of course, Apple has already counted them as sales.)

However, as some have noted, it's not a bad thing for Apple's revenue. It's more of a hit to Cook's reputation as a supply guru, for wrongly predicting what product proportions were needed.
 
kdarling said:
This. Dilger likes to mix US and world figures willy nilly.

In places like China, the 5C has not done well at all. The iPhone 5 has about 15% of the China market, the 5S about 12%, and the 5C a measly 2%.

One result was that China retailers have reportedly been stuck with a lot of 5C units. (Of course, Apple has already counted them as sales.)

However, as some have noted, it's not a bad thing for Apple's revenue. It's more of a hit to Cook's reputation as a supply guru, for wrongly predicting what product proportions were needed.
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Cook took a big hit, riiiiiight.
 
kdarling said:
This. Dilger likes to mix US and world figures willy nilly.

In places like China, the 5C has not done well at all. The iPhone 5 has about 15% of the China market, the 5S about 12%, and the 5C a measly 2%.

One result was that China retailers have reportedly been stuck with a lot of 5C units. (Of course, Apple has already counted them as sales.)
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So, you make up some FUD about mixing "US and world figures willy nilly" and counter with your own cherry picked numbers from a single country? The article actually discussed global sales estimates which had the iPhone 5C outselling the S4 in the December quarter.

However, as some have noted, it's not a bad thing for Apple's revenue. It's more of a hit to Cook's reputation as a supply guru, for wrongly predicting what product proportions were needed.
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:rolleyes: It's obviously not a bad thing for any real reasons, so you'll just make up some sort of nebulous claim that can't be proven either way.

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kdarling said:
Nobody said it was a "big" hit.

But it was definitely another indicator that he's not infallible when it comes to supply issues.
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The strawman being that nobody said that he was infallible.
 
BaldiMac said:
So, you make up some FUD about mixing "US and world figures willy nilly" and counter with your own cherry picked numbers from a single country? The article actually discussed global sales estimates which had the iPhone 5C outselling the S4 in the December quarter.



:rolleyes: It's obviously not a bad thing for any real reasons, so you'll just make up some sort of nebulous claim that can't be proven either way.

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The strawman being that nobody said that he was infallible.
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You've been here long enough to know it's not worth the effort.
 
virginblue4 said:
To all the naysayers out there saying that it was a mistake on Apples behalf releasing the iPhone 5c and the ones saying it isn't selling at all and that they will discontinue it, have a read of this.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...indows-phone-and-every-android-flagship-in-q4

I'm glad it is doing well and am looking forward to future versions of this model.
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It reads like a fanzine blog, is this an editorial piece or just some geek babbling off in his mom's basement?
 
I like my 5c. My 5 did 10x more than I needed it to. So, when I lost it and replaced it with a 5c, I got some color in addition to what I already had.
 
7thson said:
Tthomas612 said:
I'll tell you why... Apple tells them that it's premium and it's the best aluminum. Well honestly how much more can aluminum cost over polycarbonate? It's just as Apple says the polycarbonate on the 5c is the best plastic. Well it's plastic just as aluminum is aluminum.

The iPhone 5c is a well built plastic phone. When you hold it compared to a galaxy S4 it feels much sturdier. It's not a pos device by no means.

I'm by no means saying the 5s isn't a good phone because it is, but to say it's much more premium because it's "metal" is completely absurd. I have many soda cans in my trash can right now and those are not "premium."

When you look at the important stuff in our everyday life ... How many has some company made out of aluminum? How much of it is made out of plastic.

Aluminum is cheap it doesn't make something premium and IMHO the 5/5s is a major major design fail.

I don't understand how a device can't be considered premium because its made of aluminum. Besides many other Apple products that are made of aluminum, aircraft, engine blocks and body's, load bearing architectural components and many other things are made with aluminum. It's not the materials but the execution that make the difference between average and premium. Just look at a stamped steel chefs knife at a dollar store and a Wustof chefs knife. Same basic material, cosmically different user experiences. :)
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I did word that very wrong. The iPhone 5s is premium, but my point I was trying to make is that just because something is aluminum doesn't necessarily make it premium, but the 5s is the best phone on the market in terms of specs and other stuff just not the design IMO
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I originally wanted to buy green iPhone 5C but store didn't had it.
They suggested to go for iPhone 5S gold, they said it's very popular and gold version is very rare & lot of hardware goodness.
At the end i paid for 64GB gold instead of 5C 32GB.

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bmac4 said:
I am not arguing the success of the 5c cause I like it. I am just saying Engadget reviews voted as the worst tech of the year. Specs wise I believe it might be. Specs are not everything, so yes Apple is laughing all the way to the bank cause people are buying it.
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Engadget lacks human aspect to gadgets while review.
they are like machines too. only cpu, gpu, ram, storage, build quality, etc..
gadgets are used by humans. not machines.
..
I rely on review in forums by real people who have used it and know good and bads of it.

and by the way...
5C is
better than 98% of android,
better than 100% of BlackBerry
better than 100% of windows phone.
.
 
Only Apple has the true figures despite some wannabe analysts who don't like the phone so it is instantly awful >.> good job guys.

I can only go on pure data, I have seen no 5S in the wild but only Monday I saw my 3rd 5C ... Blue... tbh I was a bit underwhelmed by it...I think id of gone for the Green if I had bought one and only didnt as I am waiting for the 6 or 6S
 
Tthomas612 said:
7thson said:
I did word that very wrong. The iPhone 5s is premium, but my point I was trying to make is that just because something is aluminum doesn't necessarily make it premium, but the 5s is the best phone on the market in terms of specs and other stuff just not the design IMO
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I hear you. For what it's worth, I consider the 5c to be a premium phone and hope it sports the 5s internals in its next version, as well as a new color palette. The 5c feels so much more solid, like my 4s. I'd be worried a 5s would break or bend if I sat down with it in my back pocket, something I don't have to worry about with a 4s.
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