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So, apparently the iPhone 5c isn't a 'flop'.
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Probably because your reading it off the 5c.
No, I'm reading it off my 64gb 5s, so I'm not, in your words, "cheap/poor". But the 5c is an attractive phone and I considered getting one in blue.
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Those figures are US based only and means nothing in terms of the overall worldwide sale of the device. I am presently living in London and can tell you i have never seen a 5C except in the Apple store.
I see 5S and 4S everyday in my travels.
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Here is a report from a very well respected vendor.
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2665715
I see 5S and 4S everyday in my travels.
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Here is a report from a very well respected vendor.
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2665715
Well, the worldwide numbers in the article certainly aren't "US based only".
Good for you!
What does it say about 5C sales? Nothing?
I have a 5c in blue. Also a 5s in space gray. =)
I think both phones are good quality. I was just drawn to the 5c. As my first iOS experience, it made a good impression. Enough so that I filled my other line with a 5s even though I didn't initially like how it looked.
Still love my 5c though.
You can get this phone for as little as $0.01 many times, so of course it'll sell a lot.
On contract for free I think this is a good deal.
For a new phone that can be purchased for $0.01 to $0.99 many times though, obviously for an apple product it'll sell a lot.
Iphone 5c is really nice looking phone and there are people which preffer it over the iphone 5s, personally I preffer the 5/5s love the aluminium feel
I've never seen a Bugatti either except on tv.
Maybe thats because they both have something very similar not many sold.
Right but not many sold does not equate to a flop. In fact you can't even get a Bugatti because it's a hit. 5c sounds like a hit as well at least in the US.
Estimated 12 million or so in a quarter. Probably the second best selling smartphone in the world behind the 5S in the December quarter.
But you're going with "not many sold".
I'm in no way going to try to convince people the 5c is the best iPhone but I'll bet the haters/doubters of the 5c own a 5/5S...
It really isn't a flop, it's an apple product...no apple product flops these days!
I would much prefer have a device I can actually feel is in my pocket with a little extra weight to it. Not only that it doesn't feel so fragile and frail-it feels sturdy and strong. Plus it's def more striking in colours so can't be seen as dull.
Gotta say apples 5c colour schemes puts other manufacturers to shame..
It really isn't a flop, it's an apple product...no apple product flops these days!
I would much prefer have a device I can actually feel is in my pocket with a little extra weight to it. Not only that it doesn't feel so fragile and frail-it feels sturdy and strong. Plus it's def more striking in colours so can't be seen as dull.
Gotta say apples 5c colour schemes puts other manufacturers to shame..
Estimated 12 million or so in a quarter. Probably the second best selling smartphone in the world behind the 5S in the December quarter.
But you're going with "not many sold".
One would think that if Apple had the two best selling smart phones in the world as you obviously believe, they would be at the top of this list and not a distant second.
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2665715
Full Disclosure: I am totally into the Apple eco-system with a Macbook Pro, A Mac mini, Iphone 5S and iphone 4s. However, I don't drink the Kool-Aid.
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Honestly though, look at how many different devices Samsung sells. Apple doesn't convolute their lineup in that way. I'd say you'd have to do a one on one comparison between devices based on tier level. Apple doesn't reach into the very bottom of the customer base barrel like Samsung, that's for sure.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
I also own an iPhone 5c and 5s.
One would only think that if they ignored all the actual data.
This isn't a question of "belief". There is data to support the conclusion. It is referenced in the article.
I would argue Nokias line has a lot of pop... if you can find anything NOT black or white in stores.
Tim and Kwon both own sandwich shops in Lunch Street.
Tim concentrates on making two delicious sandwiches: one cheese, one ham. Although he's also prepared to sell you a peanut butter sandwich, but he's completely over that now.
Kwon, meanwhile, makes and sells a huge variety of sandwiches. Pretty much any filling you want. Think Subway, only edible.
Every day Tim sells 100 sandwiches: 60 cheese, 30 ham, and 10 of those peanut butter legacy jobbies.
Kwon sells 200 sandwiches a day, but even his most popular sandwich shifts no more than 25 units.
Q1: who sells the most sandwiches?
Q2: what are the two most popular sandwiches on Lunch Street?
For myself, I purchased the 5s because the upgraded camera was important to me.
For our teenagers, they both got the 5c and love them. The difference in specs meant nothing to them.
For my wife, she could choose whatever she wanted and picked the green 5C with the yellow case over a 5S. Again, I explained the difference in specs and capabilities, but she didn't give a rip. She probably would have picked the 5c over the 5s at the same price because she likes the color and the feel of the phone.
I see lots of 5Cs in the wild now, so it might be catching on more and more. Many folks are moving away from buying phones on contract so customers might becoming more price conscious. Also, I agree with others that the success of the 5C should be judged against last year's 4s sales, not against 5s sales. My gut tells me it is doing just fine, but we really don't have the data to prove it one way or the other.
For our teenagers, they both got the 5c and love them. The difference in specs meant nothing to them.
For my wife, she could choose whatever she wanted and picked the green 5C with the yellow case over a 5S. Again, I explained the difference in specs and capabilities, but she didn't give a rip. She probably would have picked the 5c over the 5s at the same price because she likes the color and the feel of the phone.
I see lots of 5Cs in the wild now, so it might be catching on more and more. Many folks are moving away from buying phones on contract so customers might becoming more price conscious. Also, I agree with others that the success of the 5C should be judged against last year's 4s sales, not against 5s sales. My gut tells me it is doing just fine, but we really don't have the data to prove it one way or the other.
Jeez, all I see in here is people judging each other based on the phone model and space on it. Good god, relax.
I have a 32 GB 5s and I just bought my girl a 5c in green. She loves it, and since I got to play around with it, I actually like it a lot too. It's a new feel and style for the iPhone (the plastic part). I feel like it's doing what it was created to do - sell in the lower income market as a cheaper alternative. Yet it's still a fantastic iPhone experience and is miles ahead of the cheaper android competition.
I have a 32 GB 5s and I just bought my girl a 5c in green. She loves it, and since I got to play around with it, I actually like it a lot too. It's a new feel and style for the iPhone (the plastic part). I feel like it's doing what it was created to do - sell in the lower income market as a cheaper alternative. Yet it's still a fantastic iPhone experience and is miles ahead of the cheaper android competition.
I would argue Nokias line has a lot of pop... if you can find anything NOT black or white in stores.
Good point! They are good too!
I got 1.5 pages into this thread before I couldn't handle it anymore....there's so much nonsense here......let's see if I can hit the highlights.
-Flop =/= you don't like something. When it comes to smartphones, the whole point for a company like Apple is to sell them. Therefore, for something to be a success or a failure, the ONLY measuring stick that matters is number sold.
-iPhone 5C IS everybit as nice (and nicer in some respects) as the iPhone 5. I've had them all from the 3GS to the 5S. I LOVE my 5C. I love my 5S as well, but there is nothing about the 5C that can be considered a "downgrade" from the 5. It is slightly better technology wise (more LTE bands, updated FT camera, bigger battery) and is actually MORE durable in my experience. One may not like the colors it comes in, but personal preference means nothing when objectively considering whether or not something is an upgrade.
-If we REALLY want to compare sales numbers, we should compare the 5S estimates (32 million) of Q4 to the 5's sales numbers in Q4 2012. Then compare the 5C (12 million) in 2013 Q4 to 4S sales in Q4 2012. If the 5C sold more, its a wild success. Because of course, Apple's goal is to sell more phones.
People can whine and complain the 5C wasn't cheap enough - they can yell and scream about how Apple missed analyst projections. The fact of the matter is, Apple sold more 5C's than its top competitors sold of their HIGHEST end phones last quarter. If we're calling the 5C a failure and a flop, what does that say about the GS4 or the G2?
I hope to God the collective intelligence of this thread doesn't reflect the overall intelligence of humanity. Otherwise, we're in for a really rough go....
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My faith in humanity is somewhat restored. Bravo!
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I use both as well and if my 5C had the faster hardware and TouchID, I'd probably prefer it to the 5S.
Though if the iPhone Air renderings floating around come to pass, I'll go for that over the two offerings.
I honestly feel the 5C was a great move. Do I wish they had offered it cheaper? Well, of course. But I understand why they didn't.
I also wouldn't be using two iPhones if the 5C didn't exist. I'd still have an Android on one line.
-Flop =/= you don't like something. When it comes to smartphones, the whole point for a company like Apple is to sell them. Therefore, for something to be a success or a failure, the ONLY measuring stick that matters is number sold.
-iPhone 5C IS everybit as nice (and nicer in some respects) as the iPhone 5. I've had them all from the 3GS to the 5S. I LOVE my 5C. I love my 5S as well, but there is nothing about the 5C that can be considered a "downgrade" from the 5. It is slightly better technology wise (more LTE bands, updated FT camera, bigger battery) and is actually MORE durable in my experience. One may not like the colors it comes in, but personal preference means nothing when objectively considering whether or not something is an upgrade.
-If we REALLY want to compare sales numbers, we should compare the 5S estimates (32 million) of Q4 to the 5's sales numbers in Q4 2012. Then compare the 5C (12 million) in 2013 Q4 to 4S sales in Q4 2012. If the 5C sold more, its a wild success. Because of course, Apple's goal is to sell more phones.
People can whine and complain the 5C wasn't cheap enough - they can yell and scream about how Apple missed analyst projections. The fact of the matter is, Apple sold more 5C's than its top competitors sold of their HIGHEST end phones last quarter. If we're calling the 5C a failure and a flop, what does that say about the GS4 or the G2?
I hope to God the collective intelligence of this thread doesn't reflect the overall intelligence of humanity. Otherwise, we're in for a really rough go....
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My faith in humanity is somewhat restored. Bravo!
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I use both as well and if my 5C had the faster hardware and TouchID, I'd probably prefer it to the 5S.
Though if the iPhone Air renderings floating around come to pass, I'll go for that over the two offerings.
I honestly feel the 5C was a great move. Do I wish they had offered it cheaper? Well, of course. But I understand why they didn't.
I also wouldn't be using two iPhones if the 5C didn't exist. I'd still have an Android on one line.
Heh, bottom line was competion's fear that Apple could price the 5C as they did and still sell a truckload besides selling plenty of the flagship at its usual high-end price. Both of which Apple has done. ( /thread )
Again that link ? What's Gartner saying ? Samsung sold a lot of phones worldwide, most of them are just ridiculous devices like Galaxy Young, Galaxy Ace and so on ....
Nothing to do with iPhone 5C target.