If you get the notebook replaced with a unibody they make you sign a release stating you do not hold apple responsible.
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So are all MBP owners with the 8600m GT cards screwed?
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If you get the notebook replaced with a unibody they make you sign a release stating you do not hold apple responsible.
Ignore.
It's done it 4 times today, twice in the last 5mins. Need to get it to an Apple Store in the next week.
It's done it 4 times today, twice in the last 5mins. Need to get it to an Apple Store in the next week.
Sorry if it has been mentioned before but there is a new article by the German computer magazine publisher Heise.
Nvidia hat Streit mit seiner Versicherung -- Google translation
"Nvidia disputes with their insurance company." It is about the affected chips and the insurance company claims that they haven't been involved timely in hearings with the computer manufacturers.
In that action the affected chips became known. That are according to the reports the Nvidia chips G86, G86A2, G84, C51, G72, G72M, G73, G72A3, MCP67 and NV42.
Nvidia hat Streit mit seiner Versicherung -- Google translation
"Nvidia disputes with their insurance company." It is about the affected chips and the insurance company claims that they haven't been involved timely in hearings with the computer manufacturers.
In that action the affected chips became known. That are according to the reports the Nvidia chips G86, G86A2, G84, C51, G72, G72M, G73, G72A3, MCP67 and NV42.
No. I think you were told on the other thread as well that the unibody MBP (the one you will be able to buy at the Apple store) has the Nvidia 9400 and 9600 GPUs, so this issue will not affect you.
MacbookPro3,1 15"
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo
NVidia m8600GT 256MB
So... I've been having intermittent issues with my screen for the past few months. It usually occurs after I have the computer closed and then open it back up. When I jiggle the screen for awhile, the problem seems to go away until I put it away or touch the screen again.
It has been getting worse lately, so I took it to Apple store to get the screen replaced. I get there and they hooked up some USB hard drive labeled as NVidia Hardware Test or something similar, and it failed the test, so they told me the screen is OK, but the logic board needs replacement. They ordered the parts, and are going to fix my computer later this week.
I asked the guy at the Apple Store if this was a common problem and he said a lot of my model MBP's were having video issues.
This is going to be the second time I get the logic board replaced on this machine... first time was because the keyboard/trackpad were unresponsive.
Here is a video of what it usually looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwmpWlYn1c
Other times, the problem shows itself as black line(s) appearing across the screen near the middle. Occasionally the problem shows itself as severe video corruption (see attached picture).
I really hope my machine isn't a ticking time bomb... with the way the economy is going, I can't afford to spend $2k+ on a new computer.
2.4GHz Core 2 Duo
NVidia m8600GT 256MB
So... I've been having intermittent issues with my screen for the past few months. It usually occurs after I have the computer closed and then open it back up. When I jiggle the screen for awhile, the problem seems to go away until I put it away or touch the screen again.
It has been getting worse lately, so I took it to Apple store to get the screen replaced. I get there and they hooked up some USB hard drive labeled as NVidia Hardware Test or something similar, and it failed the test, so they told me the screen is OK, but the logic board needs replacement. They ordered the parts, and are going to fix my computer later this week.
I asked the guy at the Apple Store if this was a common problem and he said a lot of my model MBP's were having video issues.
This is going to be the second time I get the logic board replaced on this machine... first time was because the keyboard/trackpad were unresponsive.
Here is a video of what it usually looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZwmpWlYn1c
Other times, the problem shows itself as black line(s) appearing across the screen near the middle. Occasionally the problem shows itself as severe video corruption (see attached picture).
I really hope my machine isn't a ticking time bomb... with the way the economy is going, I can't afford to spend $2k+ on a new computer.
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I can only hope this 2 or 3 times happens while the computer is still under warranty....
I'm actually seriously considering selling my machine now...i tried to get AppleCare for it on ebay but it was revoked and i'm just not in the mood to buy the retail version. Everyday i keep thinking this GPU might fail today and its doing my head in
Also my battery is already at 84% capacity with just 160 cycles...suggesting it'll be significantly less than 80% by the time it gets to 300 cycles
I'm currently a student and could get 13-16% off a unibody and would get free 3yr warranty with that but that privilege dies in two months and will have to pay full price for everything from then on. So i'm thinking i should seize the opportunity now
Thing is i don't like the Unibody design...especially the glass and very much prefer the classic but at the same time...i want peace of mind
Also my battery is already at 84% capacity with just 160 cycles...suggesting it'll be significantly less than 80% by the time it gets to 300 cycles
I'm currently a student and could get 13-16% off a unibody and would get free 3yr warranty with that but that privilege dies in two months and will have to pay full price for everything from then on. So i'm thinking i should seize the opportunity now
Thing is i don't like the Unibody design...especially the glass and very much prefer the classic but at the same time...i want peace of mind
I just sent mine in Sunday, should get it back soon. My screen just flat out didn't come on. I also get to talk to Apple in 30min about my less than great genius experience
Well can't understand way i didn't check this out early as i have just got a 2nd hand 2007 2.4 MBP with famous GeForce 8600M GT. I want it for logic pro projects that i have been doing on my macpro1.1 got a 2nd hand to save a few bucks off the new range but if i had know about this first i would have reconsidered.
Now am not a gammer nor do i do graphics work, but i didn't know the history of the machine am buying so in theory it may have been running graphics programs for 2 years.
Am expecting delivery tomorrow first thing i will run a hardware test to see all is good after this is there any pointers you can give me into trying to find out the likely hood of card failure? Am not gonna read this whole thread as it's a bit long winded at this point & it's just give me the feeling i should sell it on and buy a unibody.
Now am not a gammer nor do i do graphics work, but i didn't know the history of the machine am buying so in theory it may have been running graphics programs for 2 years.
Am expecting delivery tomorrow first thing i will run a hardware test to see all is good after this is there any pointers you can give me into trying to find out the likely hood of card failure? Am not gonna read this whole thread as it's a bit long winded at this point & it's just give me the feeling i should sell it on and buy a unibody.
From what I've been reading, it sounds like all laptops (Macbook Pro's included) with the m8600GT are flawed. They will all suffer from decreased life span of varying degrees, and this decreased life span is accelerated by heating (graphics intensive applications). Whether or not the decreased life span will ever affect the user is up in the air, based on that specific laptop and the user's usage patterns.
Really what it means is there is no way to predict failure, but it will fail sooner than a non-m8600GT with the same usage patterns.
Really what it means is there is no way to predict failure, but it will fail sooner than a non-m8600GT with the same usage patterns.
So what's to be the advantage of joining a class action over taking a replacement? Or what advantage will a lawsuit have for me if my e2008 MBP never fails? Unless they pass out complimentary AppleCare before September, or extend related repair coverage indefinitely (a selfish date, which is when my standard 1 year ends), I don't expect a suit to help much.
Well it passed the first hardware test & am now running the extended hardware test & guess what it's fans have kicked in to full gear as the MBP has heated up to levels i have never witnessed before in a Laptop
I have stopped the hardware test after 25 mins as i have become concered at the level of heat.
Ok i have now let thing cool down for 10 mins. It's fans are now behaving normally when i boot up.
The question i need answering is should i continue with the extended hardware test and is the level of heat normal in this situation. Considering that the test is over an hour is it safe for me to put this MBP through that??????
Advice is urgently required.
Well it passed the first hardware test & am now running the extended hardware test & guess what it's fans have kicked in to full gear as the MBP has heated up to levels i have never witnessed before in a Laptop
I have stopped the hardware test after 25 mins as i have become concered at the level of heat.
Ok i have now let thing cool down for 10 mins. It's fans are now behaving normally when i boot up.
The question i need answering is should i continue with the extended hardware test and is the level of heat normal in this situation. Considering that the test is over an hour is it safe for me to put this MBP through that??????
Advice is urgently required.
Heat is normal as the aluminium case is also acting as a heatsink. Also the Hardware test won't reveal anything even if the GPU is defective
OK THEN AM RUNNING THE EXTENDED TEST AGAIN,
Am very confused by all this i get the feeling that i should expect my MBP to be defective
when in reality it may be all good, hey i don't do 3d intensive graphics nor do i game. Can long time users of this version MBP advise me on if you think i should keep it for the next few years or just sell it on, which BTW i would not lose any money on and may gain a hundred or so bucks, to buy the new unibody.
The spec of the MBP i have bought is powerful enough for my needs and buying the new unibody won't benefit me in the respect of usage.
With this level of interest in the defective GPU am starting to feel like they is some sort of conspiracy.... LOL
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Well then it passed both tests so fingers crossed
With this level of interest in the defective GPU am starting to feel like they is some sort of conspiracy.... LOL
This is past conspiracy. Its approaching watergate status. Nixon would be proud. With nVidia denying the claims, then shifting the blame, then allocating a ton of funds towards repairs, and finally speaking with their insurer, nVidia knows the extent of this issue. The problem is that the community hasn't come up with a surefire way to speed up or replicate the issue. Its not just a matter of cooking it, but it takes cycles of cooking then letting it cool off and repeating the cycle (or so i'm told). This isn't something that happens with normal usage.
How would anything short of a replacement machine (read: upgrade) be of any help. We still believe that all gpu's used in first gen macbook pros are defective right?