I don't and keep trying it. And for those who say go to an area where someone has experienced the antenna issue. That makes no sense cause then it would clearly mean it's a tower/signal issue. Not antenna cause if it was then it would happen anywhere so basically how can it not be a software issue. It's more than likely cause u don't have good 3G or strong enough of it in your area and that's not apples fault.
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So basically some are trying to say every iPhone has the antenna problem?
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Jason-Houghton
macrumors regular
Good for you. But I'm sorry, every iPhone 4 has this issue. You just have to do it right. If you are not noticing it then that's fine.
I fully cup the phone in both hands covering both bands nothing happens. Why do u say it's every phone there are people here who have already said they don't have the issue. And don't say it's the area ur in cause then that would mean it's your cell service that isn't good n
Really how can u say everyone has it. I seen people using their iPhone 4 and not complaining. If it was every phone then it would happen with everyone. It isn't. This has to confirm it needs a software fix or your 3G was never that good in your area. Also immholding my phone right now and no bars dropped maple people just pick up their phone and it drops not me m
scaredpoet
macrumors 604
Don't worry about it. Misery loves company, and some people aren't happy unless everyone has the same misfortune they do.
jaw04005
macrumors 601
I have to press really hard (as in flex) on the band in both antenna spots in order to get it to degrade the signal. Obviously, I don’t hold my phone that way so it’s it’s basically a non-issue for me.
Location, signal reception, manufacturing differences (I’m sure the metal band is coated with something at the factory), skin differences, static electricity, etc likely explain why some can’t reproduce the issue.
We do know Apple knew the latest release of iOS 4 had reception bugs quickly after they released it. They told Mossberg a software fix would be out soon to fix the bar dropping issue he noted in his review.
It seems reasonable that Apple could tell the baseband to ignore specific noise coming from a certain antenna and/or switch to a different antenna. I find it hard to believe that the problem is an actual hardware defect. Surely Apple designed iPhone 4 to handle attenuation caused by normal hand holding.
And whether or not it’s an official part of the test, someone at the FCC, AT&T and every other iPhone 4 carrier in the world (all tested the device) would have noticed. Keep in mind, Apple doesn’t ship them units with iOS 4. They use a special stripped down firmware to do their testing.
Location, signal reception, manufacturing differences (I’m sure the metal band is coated with something at the factory), skin differences, static electricity, etc likely explain why some can’t reproduce the issue.
We do know Apple knew the latest release of iOS 4 had reception bugs quickly after they released it. They told Mossberg a software fix would be out soon to fix the bar dropping issue he noted in his review.
It seems reasonable that Apple could tell the baseband to ignore specific noise coming from a certain antenna and/or switch to a different antenna. I find it hard to believe that the problem is an actual hardware defect. Surely Apple designed iPhone 4 to handle attenuation caused by normal hand holding.
And whether or not it’s an official part of the test, someone at the FCC, AT&T and every other iPhone 4 carrier in the world (all tested the device) would have noticed. Keep in mind, Apple doesn’t ship them units with iOS 4. They use a special stripped down firmware to do their testing.
That's a rather bold statement! Unfortunately, you do not know if every iPhone 4 has this issue. This could well be a case of only hearing about the ones that are suffering with the problem. Not being harsh btw, just trying to be objective about this.
I've noticed it a little bit but, honestly, it hasn't interfered with anything I've been doing. I will, however, be getting a bumper because I do miss the friction-feel of my old 3GS's case in my hand. Therefore, signal problem solved 😀
I've tried really hard to duplicate this antenna issue and I just can't seem to find the issue. In fact comparing it against my old 3G side by side, my 4 gets better reception. My 4 can pick up wifi spots that my 3G can't find at all.
No complaints here. 🙂
No complaints here. 🙂
Wow! So people who have had good reception and no bar dropping for the last 3 days or so should try to purposely force the issue. U freaking believable!! Some of you people need either a girlfriend or hobby. I'm not happy about the issue either and demand a fix for such a visible flaw, but I tried to replicate it yet it won't do it in 3 different locations here in Dallas, Tx.
Either take it back or just wait until tomorrow to see what's announced. All this whining and forcing people to be unhappy with you is getting old.
Either take it back or just wait until tomorrow to see what's announced. All this whining and forcing people to be unhappy with you is getting old.
There is certainly the SAME issue with EVERY phone. It's nonsense if anyone thinks different. It's a design flaw inherent in the hardware.
As whether it actually AFFECTS anybody in any real sense is dependent on who you are talking about. I can create the issue everytime I specifically TRY to do it on my phone, but my wife cannot reproduce it on the same phone in the same place using the same grip. So it obviously has something to do with each person's HAND in some way. Even though I actually DO grip the phone in a way that interferes with the signal, I do use a bumper so it's a non-issue.
But there is a subset of people who don't want to use the bumper that hold the phone in such a way that it affects the signal. So it's an issue. It's ridiculous that people think it's not, including Apple.
Tony
As whether it actually AFFECTS anybody in any real sense is dependent on who you are talking about. I can create the issue everytime I specifically TRY to do it on my phone, but my wife cannot reproduce it on the same phone in the same place using the same grip. So it obviously has something to do with each person's HAND in some way. Even though I actually DO grip the phone in a way that interferes with the signal, I do use a bumper so it's a non-issue.
But there is a subset of people who don't want to use the bumper that hold the phone in such a way that it affects the signal. So it's an issue. It's ridiculous that people think it's not, including Apple.
Tony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfBCCP0BF54
Watch my video.
Pretty conclusive proof that the phone is effected under certain conditions, e.g no case or bumper!
But notice in my video that it's not as bad as other people have shown so I guess it's quite a sporadic issue.
Watch my video.
Pretty conclusive proof that the phone is effected under certain conditions, e.g no case or bumper!
But notice in my video that it's not as bad as other people have shown so I guess it's quite a sporadic issue.
LordOBoogie
macrumors 6502a
rhinosrcool
macrumors 68000
Every iPhone 4 has this issue! That's how the antenna works. Even Jobs admits it when he says "don't hold it that way." Yes, it works differently with different signal strengths. For example, I can't get it to happen in my living room, but I can get it to happen in my bedroom. Although, there I can only get it to drop a couple of bars. At home my signal strength is strong. If I go to the lake, it goes to no bars. It has nothing to do with one person getting lucky and not having it like the yellow spots.
OneMike
macrumors 603
ditto. even when holding my phone in a ridiculous way I never would I'm still unable to produce this issue. And I'm a lefty.
I tried to replicate this with my iPhone4 and my wife's iphone4 for 5 minutes each and the signal did not drop 1 bar. So to say that everyone is having the issue is untrue.
And I REPEAT - EVERY PHONE HAS THIS ISSUE! How could they NOT? It's the same friggin' DESIGN! 🙄
But your individual HAND is part of the equation as to whether it manifests itself. That's why some can't recreate it. Everytime someone tells me they can't recreate it on their phone, I pick it up and can make it happen. Every single time with any iPhone 4 without fail. I tried it with about 10 different phones at the Apple store and I could do it every time.
Simple really.
Tony
But your individual HAND is part of the equation as to whether it manifests itself. That's why some can't recreate it. Everytime someone tells me they can't recreate it on their phone, I pick it up and can make it happen. Every single time with any iPhone 4 without fail. I tried it with about 10 different phones at the Apple store and I could do it every time.
Simple really.
Tony
Sleazy E
macrumors 65816
Sorry but I don't have the problem with mine. Nor does my girlfriends phone have a problem, my sisters, my nephew, and two of my coworkers that got them. The problem is overblown by people like you and it is pretty sad.
Applejuiced
macrumors Westmere
If this problem is happening to 3GS owners who updated to iOS 4 as well, it's probably a software issue. Considering the fact that some people have the iPhone 4 and don't have the reception issue, is another clue that it's either software or a defect. I'm not exactly sure why so many people are convinced that it is the fault of how it is designed.
JediZenMaster
Suspended
Mine is working great and i know 4 people who have the iPhone 4 also,And they are not experiencing problems.