Right. Which is a software change. Not hardware.
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And guess what? I also didn't have the problem on the 1GB iPad Air.
The problem is software.
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Right. Which is a software change. Not hardware.
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And guess what? I also didn't have the problem on the 1GB iPad Air.
The problem is software.
Me either. That's what some people aren't getting here. Many of us have multiple tabs opened doing stuff and nothing reloads on our Airs. Oh well.
If you're not having issues, great. But do take a peek at your diagnostic logs. If on iOS 7 you'll have many daily low memory entries. If on iOS 8, you'll have many stacks+backboard entries. On my Air 2, the log is basically empty.
No I have no idea what's stacks+backboard mean, but the complete disappearance of low memory error after updating to iOS 8 on the Air would suggest that it's the updated wording for low memory.
Yet u just keep on keeping on, apologizing for Apple lol
I have to. The ignorance and misinformation keeps on keeping on.
No one has ever claimed finite DRAM allows you to open up infinite apps. What it does is increase the usable threshold, number of background apps/tabs, before the OS closes them to free up memory for a newly launched foreground app. Safari is probably given a lower priority over other apps where you might lose work-in-progress document. This is memory management at work. Other methods found on desktops and laptops such as memory compression is not feasible on a mobile device since it has more drawbacks and paging to storage would kill the non-replaceable flash memory.
By your logic increasing finite DRAM never fixes opening up infinite apps without closing them so we should go back to 256MB of 1st generation iPad. Wrong. When it comes to DRAM it's always better to have more while the reality is Apple tends to keep it minimal to get you to upgrade more often. In the end it's about finding that acceptable threshold that doesn't negatively impact the user experience. In 2014, 1GB bad, 2GB minimally acceptable, 3GB where the rest of the industry is at now, 4GB or more great for future proofing but wishful thinking, etc.
That is absolutely rich coming from someone who doesn't even understand the basic function of RAM.
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This is a very good post.
Acceptable to whom? You?
You are correct.
Apple found that threshold. And it has sold MILLIONS of iPads to satisfied customers.
You and a few here are not among them.
That's too bad. And extra GB of RAM times millions of devices to satisfy a micro minority who doesn't like to spend money is a very, very, bad business decision.
Apple is not in the business of making bad business decisions.
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Big words. Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you'll be able to convince yourself it's true.
Everyone's threshold is different and yours seem very low. The 1st generation iPad would suite you well so why did you even upgrade?
The funny part of all this? You're not even a stockholder and you still make this baseless PR claims LOL
I'm right here. There are people reporting Air 2 still reloads. 5 tabs, no apps opened.
I still think it is more a software issue.
More RAM could fix the issue to a degree, but optimizing the software could've fixed it last year.
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How's your #distortiongate?
i was being sarcastic the 6+ is awesomeDoes the iPhone 6/6+ has these issues? If so I'm holding off until the 6's are releases. This issue drove me crazy on my rMini and I had an open ticket with Apple for 10 months.
A. How do you know whether I am a stockholder or not?
B. What exactly is baseless? That they sold millions or that they don't like to make bad business decisions? Does the term "common sense" ring any bells for you???
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Yes, mine and all the MILLIONS of other iPad owners. We have a very low threshold. And we have money to buy more iPads. Guess who Apple is going to pay attention to?
The amount of BS in this thread makes my head hurt. More RAM has helped. There is no way you can argue otherwise because you can easily see the results coming in. Safari also sucks compared to other browsers. Apple has done the easy fix, now we await the difficult fix. The truth is there was always much work to be done. The biggest problem was the A6 to A7 64-bit transition resulted in less usable RAM, so that was a downgrade in capability which resulted in an overall less responsive system as the user must wait for content to reload. It's simple logic.
Safari is only a small part of the RAM debate. Apps resuming, apps crashing less often, and greater capability in professional apps are other benefits. To say that you'd prefer 1GB when given 2GB is foolish, and I suspect many of you who are defending 1GB are just ******** that you aren't getting the new Air 2. Go back to using 256MB on the original iPad if you love low amounts of RAM. It was a wildly successful tablet, so by the logic in this thread it was perfect in every regard.
Safari is only a small part of the RAM debate. Apps resuming, apps crashing less often, and greater capability in professional apps are other benefits. To say that you'd prefer 1GB when given 2GB is foolish, and I suspect many of you who are defending 1GB are just ******** that you aren't getting the new Air 2. Go back to using 256MB on the original iPad if you love low amounts of RAM. It was a wildly successful tablet, so by the logic in this thread it was perfect in every regard.
Is the reason Safari is refreshing means that it's given a low memory priority? I don't mind facebook or Twitter refreshing as much as they load pretty quick but Safari eats up my cellular data bundle a month for goodness sake. Apple what are you doing?
By the way has anyone actually brought this issue to apples attention? I believe it's a memory priority issue which can be fixed through software?
By the way has anyone actually brought this issue to apples attention? I believe it's a memory priority issue which can be fixed through software?
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I just recently came back to the iOS community. Had an iPad 2 and 4 but changed to android during those years when I ditched my 4. Just recently got a second hand 5 and iPad 4 and here am i
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Of course more ram helps. But that's obvious. Put more ram in a device and it will help with many things.
But the reloading issue started with a software update. One day your iPad was fine with 1GB and the next day it was dumping tabs like crazy.
That's all I'm saying. So then iOS7 should have introduced new hardware specifications. Like when they release desktop OS updates. They have hardware minimum requirements.
Basically with the introduction of iOS 7 they killed multitasking. The devices just weren't working right.
No. It started with the 64-bit devices. Especially the high resolution iPads. That just happened to coincide with iOS 7.
Will things begin to change once the apps are changed to 64bit? I read somewhere that apple requires future submissions to the App Store to be in 64bit.
Safari is already 64-bit and is the one with the most problems. Even if every app was 64-bit, memory was still lacking for Safari.
I am a day one iPhone owner. I can tell you the issue has always existed to a certain extent. It has steadily gotten worse over time as the web advanced and iOS added more background features. But when did it get really bad? The A7. The 64-bit reduction in available ram on a retina iPad killed it hard. My iPhone 5 on iOS 8 smokes my iPhone 6 Plus when it comes to reloading tabs.
I was just in a chat asking an Apple rep a shipping question for the Air 2 and the thing crashed. Using a Mini 2. Seriously pisses me off and I can't wait to get my Air 2.
The thing that pisses me off is all the Apple defenders. I'm a huge Apple fan! Anyone who knows me would say so. But I don't sit there and make excuses for Apple. Everyone keeps saying that since iOS is so successful that it doesn't matter. Really? So let's just never improve on anything ever again. Just because something is popular doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. It just means their competitors are even worse. Unfortunately Apple makes the best tablets and phones. It's too bad that no company has come along and out-Appled the incredible design, aesthetic and ease of use. It's getting too glitchy.