So I was on a date yesterday evening…

[A.Goldberg]

My wife was the original iPhone user. I had a Blackberry and was happy with it, except for the fact I usually got about 6 months out of them before they were junk. Same with the Razr's before it.

So she goes and gets one. It is OK, but doesn't look durable enough for me. Then I break another BB. So I figured, why not give it a try. Can't be any worse. So the 3G was out by then and that is what I got.

Since then, I have only broken 2 iPhones and one was just the back glass so I kept using it.

She also got the first Mac of the household, a 2011 Mini.

We are mostly Apple now, but I do have a nice Samsung tablet that I use in my SXS as a GPS. The programs I use aren't available in iOS. Plus would rather take a $200Samsung out into the woods vs a $1000 iPad.

One of my business partners wife used a Blackberry up until some time around late 2020. And I don’t mean the Blackberries that used Android, I mean the ones that ran BlackBerry OS.

I never liked BlackBerry OS much. I got one years ago but hated it so much I traded in the phone. Windows Mobile also was awful. My favorite phone ever was my Palm Treo 650. Rock solid and a very simple. I still have it in fact and the batteries still work.

I also had a Palm Pre that ran WebOS. That was an OS truly ahead of it’s time offering many feature iOS would only figure out years later. Oh yeah, it also had inductive charging and this was back in like 2009. It’s too bad Palm was late to the game, didn’t do well procuring 3rd party developers, and didn’t have the best hardware at the time. Apple was buying Palm (possibly to market as their keyboarded business phone line) until HP sniper bid them at the last minute and almost immediately ran it into the ground. It’s too bad.

 

[Danfango]

A high valued man should act like a leader and confidence. Asking a woman to pay half of the bill simply will lower your standards. Its not as if you are buying a car.

No one asks. It's out of mutual respect. It's not 1950 any more in the UK ?

 

[decafjava]

Good lord, this is very dependant on cultural norms in different societies. What is normal in the UK is not so in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia in my experience. No one is "right" here.

 

[VulchR]

She would have lost me putting the handset on the table rather than putting it away. I hate it when people take calls or compulsively monitor their phones in the middle of a social meal. Some of my friends act like trained dogs when they hear a ring tone. I bet with the right ring tone I could get them to roll over. They already fetch on command (their phones, that is).

Mind you, people have multiple ways of communicating that they are not interested, so maybe the the OP's date used the iOS comment as a pretext.

 

[Juicy Box]

??? wow really? As a gent on a first date i wouldn't let her pay a cent. Its embarrassing to split a bill on a date.

Standard here in the UK. Its to make sure there is no unfairness and/or obligation from to either party.

A high valued man should act like a leader and confidence. Asking a woman to pay half of the bill simply will lower your standards. Its not as if you are buying a car.

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No one asks. It's out of mutual respect. It's not 1950 any more in the UK ?

Good lord, this is very dependant on cultural norms in different societies. What is normal in the UK is not so in Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia in my experience. No one is "right" here.

I was going to say the same.

So many cultural norms differences, even within the same country.

No one is "right" here.

While a little off topic for the thread, I don’t see a problem discussing the differences in culture norms and whether one might be more wrong than the other.

For example, slavery is perfectly legal in almost half of the countries in the world.

Not the same thing as splitting the bill on a date, but I find it hard to argue that slavery, especially sex slavery, could be anything but wrong. But, in some cultures it is the norm.

A cultural norm that is closer to splitting the check on a date which I dislike about a lot of European countries is the lack of free refills for soda, and also that asking for ice in a drink seems almost taboo.

What’s wrong with ice?

 

[Mousse]

I actually share my name with a male pornstar. This turns out not to be an advantage ?

(my name is not Dan for reference)

Gawd, to have a name so clever a porn star would want to steal it.? I'm green with envy.? One of these days I'll get my name changed to Buck Naked or Biggus Dickus.?

Some of my friends act like trained dogs when they hear a ring tone. I bet with the right ring tone I could get them to roll over. They already fetch on command (their phones, that is).

Guilty.? But there is only one ringtone that will get me drop everything and answer. I've got different ringtones for people on my short contact list (20 people). If I hear the Imperial March, drop everything and answer, because Darth Missus has orders to issue.? Ignore and risk being frozen in carbonite.? I ignore the generic ringtone because I use that for non-contact list numbers. I ain't interested in extended warranty; besides, my 20 year old car doesn't qualify.?

 

[VulchR]

... I've got different ringtones for people on my short contact list (20 people). If I hear the Imperial March, drop everything and answer, because Darth Missus has orders to issue.? Ignore and risk being frozen in carbonite.? ...

The ring tone for my ex mother-in-law is the theme from Close Encounters of a Third Kind.

 

[Danfango]

The ring tone for my ex mother-in-law is the theme from Close Encounters of a Third Kind.

My ex mother in law has the nazi anthem. My phone is always on silent so this never gets demonstrated but it’s appropriately attributed to her calling at least in concept.

 

[patrick0brien]

Welp, if failure is going to happen, do it quickly...

 

[eyoungren]

Some of my friends act like trained dogs when they hear a ring tone. I bet with the right ring tone I could get them to roll over. They already fetch on command (their phones, that is).

When I am out, say at a restaurant or coffee shop, I have seen this behavior. However, the interesting thing for me is that in any large group you will always know who has an iPhone. The average iPhone user (which does not necessarily include any of us here on MacRumors) does not change their default tones. Thus iPhone users are easy to spot in crowds.

I believe this backs up your opinion. Apple has the average user so well trained that they don't even change the default tones.

 

[Danfango]

When I am out, say at a restaurant or coffee shop, I have seen this behavior. However, the interesting thing for me is that in any large group you will always know who has an iPhone. The average iPhone user (which does not necessarily include any of us here on MacRumors) does not change their default tones. Thus iPhone users are easy to spot in crowds.

I believe this backs up your opinion. Apple has the average user so well trained that they don't even change the default tones.

Mostly I don't change it because of three reasons:

1. If it goes off I can instantly blame it on someone else.
2. There's nothing tackier than a custom ring tone.
3. It's always on silent anyway.

Apple hasn't trained me at all here.

 

[eyoungren]

Mostly I don't change it because of three reasons:

1. If it goes off I can instantly blame it on someone else.
2. There's nothing tackier than a custom ring tone.
3. It's always on silent anyway.

Apple hasn't trained me at all here.

LOL.

I change mine not because I want to stand out but because I don't wish to be the 'same' as everyone else. But it only goes so far.

My primary ringtone is the T-Mobile jingle (because that's my carrier). My email tones are the email sounds that you get with Entourage 2004 and Entourage 2008 (on the Mac) and my text tone and alarm sound are the same ones I've been using since 2009. I took them from an HTC soundpack for the HTC Diamond (I have the Touch Pro) and an alarm app I was using during that time. They've been pushed to every phone I've owned since.

The alarm sound is just the right balance. It's enough to jar me out of sleep but not grating enough to wake my wife up before I can manage to turn it off. She gets pissy if my alarm wakes her up before she's supposed to be awake.

 

[Herdfan]

I am awaiting Apple to ship my replacement 11 Pro Max. Not only did I shatter the back glass to almost powder last week the impact was enough to crack the front screen from underneath (the phone landed on it's back on concrete).

The one I broke the back glass on was 100% my fault. Because I tried to catch it when it falling. You know when something starts falling you swing your hands at it to try and catch it. Well, my one hand hit it just enough to send it flying 15' across a parking lot.

Didn't know it was broken until it wouldn't charge wirelessly that night. Took the case off and the back was a spider web.

But had I just let it fall, it would have probably bounced off my foot and been fine.

 

[Herdfan]

She would have lost me putting the handset on the table rather than putting it away. I hate it when people take calls or compulsively monitor their phones in the middle of a social meal.

My first year coaching swimming, we were at a restaurant after a meet. All the girls piled their phones in the middle of the table. If anyone touched theirs until the check had come, then they paid for dinner.

 

[eyoungren]

The one I broke the back glass on was 100% my fault. Because I tried to catch it when it falling. You know when something starts falling you swing your hands at it to try and catch it. Well, my one hand hit it just enough to send it flying 15' across a parking lot.

Didn't know it was broken until it wouldn't charge wirelessly that night. Took the case off and the back was a spider web.

But had I just let it fall, it would have probably bounced off my foot and been fine.

I was holding mine outside my daughter's school. The area there is concrete. I went to unlock it with my right hand and ended up smacking the top of the screen instead. That sent it tumbling out of my left hand. I tried to grab it mid-drop which ended up moving it to the right where it impacted on the top right corner on the back near a rain pipe. It hit so hard that the glass in the impact area was almost powder like.

I was still recovering from my second COVID booster that day so I was completely out of it.

 

[Danfango]

Do you not use cases? I dropped my 13 Pro down a rather large chalky and rocky hill and it bounced all the way down like Homer Simpson falling off a cliff. Wasn’t a scratch on it!

 

[Juicy Box]

Do you not use cases?

No. iPhones are already big enough, I don’t want to add to the bulk.

I have had an iPhone since their launch in 2007, and have never used, and most likely will never use, a case.

I dropped my 13 Pro down a rather large chalky and rocky hill and it bounced all the way down like Homer Simpson falling off a cliff.

I don’t do that with my iPhone.

 

[eyoungren]

Do you not use cases? I dropped my 13 Pro down a rather large chalky and rocky hill and it bounced all the way down like Homer Simpson falling off a cliff. Wasn’t a scratch on it!

No, I don't use them.

The last time I cracked a screen from a drop was 2015. I wasn't paying attention because I had an antihistamine in my system and was drowsy.

Week and a half ago, I was also extremely tired (COVID booster, side effect) and not paying attention.

Generally, I'm careful. But now, I've now told myself that any time I'm super tired or under some sort of drug side effect I will not be handling my phone.

 

[Danfango]

Just remember that you don’t drop stuff until you do. I never dropped stuff until I did and it cost me. Thus I use a case now.

Also I like to maintain my devices for resale later. The precious XR and 12 I sold were in mint condition when I sold them.

 

[MajorFubar]

I agree with OP. I think you can read a lot about people by looking at how they maintain expensive devices like phones, tablets and computers. Total red flag city for me if my date turned up with a newish expensive phone that looks like it just lost a fight with a tractor. And don't get me started on young parents who give their (almost certainly, contract) phones to their babies to chew on in their prams/buggies (seen that lots of times).

 

[JahBoolean]

You mean...bisexual people?

"Bi-curious" would have achieved the intent of the joke with a tad more taste.

 

[Herdfan]

Do you not use cases? I dropped my 13 Pro down a rather large chalky and rocky hill and it bounced all the way down like Homer Simpson falling off a cliff. Wasn’t a scratch on it!

Yes, the thinnest Otterbox. Commuter or Defender. Can't remember which it is.

 

[eyoungren]

Just remember that you don’t drop stuff until you do. I never dropped stuff until I did and it cost me. Thus I use a case now.

Also I like to maintain my devices for resale later. The precious XR and 12 I sold were in mint condition when I sold them.

That may be the difference. I keep my phones. The only reason I may have to let them go is if someone else needs a phone. Right now though I have every phone I've used since 2009 except for a 6+ and two phones I didn't use in that time period, a 4 and a 4s.

Not every drop means damage and I don't generally drop my phones. Two incidents since 2009 that cracked or broke screens.

For the record, my wife is an avid Otterbox user.

 

[Danfango]

I'd hate to clean your house out when you die ?

 

[eyoungren]

I'd hate to clean your house out when you die ?

You have no idea.