...So iTunes Match could get you arrested?

Discussion in 'iOS 5 and earlier' started by thecharlesmoore, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. thecharlesmoore macrumors member

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    I read a lot of posts from websites that are unsure if Apple will report people who have downloaded content from another source and put it on iTunes. There are a lot of people who download illegally (Of course, don't download ANYTHING illegal), but do you think that Apple will report that? or do you think that iTunes Match will just automatically match the songs and not scan the background at all?
     
  2. brand macrumors 601

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    How would Apple know where the music was originally acquired from? Obviously you have downloaded your music illegally otherwise this wouldn't be a concern.
     
  3. spectre51 macrumors 6502

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    They aren't going to report people. How will they tell you didn't rip it from the real cd?
     
  4. rkeato1 macrumors regular

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    No, they won't report you. The major labels are going to make their money back from illegal d/l's because of Match: From the article:

    As CEO Jeff Price of Tunecore points out, Apple is paying royalties to record labels and publishers to cover this user behavior.

    Amazon and Google introduced music lockers -- a similar concept, but they require users to upload every song manually -- but they're not paying the industry a dime.

    In other words, Apple just built the service that lets the record industry FINALLY make money from pirated music.

    This is something the record industry should have done itself 10 years ago when Napster emerged, instead of suing its customers to try and stop them from sharing music, it should have figured out how to make money off them.


    Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com...es-steve-jobs-amazon-and-google#ixzz1cbfOu16Q
     
  5. thecharlesmoore thread starter macrumors member

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    THIS. That is what I was concerned about.
     
  6. brand macrumors 601

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    Then why didn't you say that instead of asking about downloading music illegally? You are doing a good job a making yourself appear less creditable.
     
  7. thecharlesmoore thread starter macrumors member

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    I read a lot of posts from websites that are unsure if Apple will report people who have downloaded content from another source and put it on iTunes.

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    + Who said I never downloaded music illegally?
     
  8. brand macrumors 601

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    Then how about you come out and say that instead of trying to mislead everyone and then say that you were talking about RIPPing CDs?
     
  9. thecharlesmoore thread starter macrumors member

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    Dude, the majority of my library is CDs-my main concern. + I JUST told you I did. There is no misleading. Have a good night though.
     
  10. green86 macrumors 6502

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    I'm not sure what everyone's problem is. Even if he did download songs immediately, people can't just answer the question.. oh no, they have to get on their high horse and try to criticize. Who cares if this guy "seems credible" it was a credible concern. MacRumors certainly wins the award for saddest posters. Get real people.
     
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  12. Bigtree macrumors 6502

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    I wish they would turn people in. It is called stealing.
     
  13. Kahnyl macrumors 68000

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    They know exactly what they're doing. It's an amazing step forward for the music industry. They seemed to be stuck in time and then all of a sudden they're agreeing to give pirates good quality files in return for a fee. This isn't a sting. Beyond being technically impossible to tell if your mp3s weren't purchased it would also be a violation of the ITunes user agreement and probably a bunch of local laws.

    Although, I admit, the paranoia people are exhibiting is somewhat entertaining.
     
  14. sammich macrumors 601

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    There are ways to find songs that are 'shared a lot'. Songs that have been bought from the iTunes store don't have any DRM, but they do have your iTunes account ID stored in the metadata for every song bought. So, if the copy you snagged happens to be the unadulterated copy (ie not converted) then it's going to be fairly obvious that if thousands of people have this copy then it's been acquired less than fairly.

    Other ways is to probably have a checksum of every song sent back to the Apple servers for checking. This isn't 100% at all, but with all that info, it can be cross referenced against everyone's collection, and various other sources to possibly determine it's origins.

    Then there are all those who never check for little comments from their 'acquired' songs.

    None of those are surefire ways to determine your culpability, but if you have thousands of 'red flagged' checksums of songs, it's probably cause for concern.

    One more thing though, Apple makes far more profit from selling you iDevices, and iTunes Match is designed for iDevices. If they arrest you, you'll probably never buy another one again.
     
  15. tirk macrumors 6502

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    And anyway... "arrested"?? Talk about paranoia!
     
  16. cmChimera macrumors 68040

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    Depending on how much you download, entirely possible. Maybe not plausible, but possible.
    Grow up.
     
  17. Kahnyl macrumors 68000

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    All of that is possible but I don't really think it matters. Apple aren't necessarily 'nice' but they're 'smart'. Getting involved in this massive sting doesnt behoove them. The labels might like it but Apple wouldn't benefit from catching people and, with the ordinary customer, they'd likely take most of the blame for people being caught because they're the ones the customers are dealing with.
     
  18. MonkeySee.... macrumors 68040

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    Look. I had a CD (arrested Develovpment) stolen out of my car. Fortunately have still have the case at home so i went on a torrent site and re downloaded it.

    To me that's not an issue as I've already bought the Album. The album i downloaded on the other hand is tagged with a load of "Torrent" metadata so this will be a concern for me.
     
  19. sammich macrumors 601

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    Well, it won't matter if the labels 'compel' Apple to take action.
     
  20. rowley macrumors 6502

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    Ripping CDs in the UK is not deemed a copyright issue anymore, so ripping CDs to make a personal copy for digital listening is fine. New legislation is seeing to that.

    Remember the iTunes store was not about when ipods and iTunes first came about - so the only way to get content onto your ipod was ripping the CDs.

    There is no issue here, move along.
     
  21. CiSach macrumors newbie

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    FBI going to come to your house and disrespect your famiry!
     
  22. sclawis300 macrumors 65816

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    Why? Because he wants the law enforced?
     
  23. agentphish macrumors 65816

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    This is rubbish. Of course they won't report you. They have no way to prove where anything came from and they probably don't care either. They're paying out what they need to make the service work.
     
  24. JRoDDz macrumors 68000

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    The minute the CD got stolen, you lost your "rights" to ownership of that music as it's no longer in your possession. What you are doing is illegal.

    so lets say someone steals my iPhone out of my car. I can just go into the Apple store and steal another iPhone and that makes it ok, since I paid for the original?

    Edit: I am now making a citizens arrest. You have the right to remain silent. If you choose to give up that right anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. Any questions?
     
  25. MonkeySee.... macrumors 68040

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    So i have a load of dvds but want them on my mac so I rip them all to my hardrive and throw away the now useless DVD's.

    Does that now make me a thief?
     

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