So NYU shot me down, but I have an idea.

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  1. Hummer macrumors 65816

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    I'm wondering is this would work.

    Apply for some crappy run of the mill college to start in spring and finish one semester by fall. At the same time apply to NYU as a transfer student and then I'd be in NYU by fall '08.

    Anyone know how this would be possible if possible at all?
     
  2. theman macrumors 6502a

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    why do you want to go to nyu anyway? do you like debt or something?
     
  3. Hummer thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I can't answer that question (not because I don't want to, but because I really don't know), but I'm set on that one school. Please don't criticize me for my choice. I just want to know if it would work. Like is it possible to go for one semester at one school just to transfer to another right after with plans on doing so from the start.
     
  4. puckhead193 macrumors G3

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    you can but don't just go to that school with hopes of transferring.
    What do you want to major in?
     
  5. Hummer thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Computer Science or Information Technology
     
  6. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    My good friend went through a vaguely similar sort of dilemma ... well, vaguely. He had really wanted to go to Harvard, and wound up at the University of Michigan (not exactly crappy). He thought seriously about applying for transfer admission, and sometimes the rules are different for transfer students and your chances are better. He ultimately decided he was happy at Michigan and went to med school elsewhere etc, and more or less has lived happily ever after.

    But you should ask yourself... what will be different when you apply as a transfer student? Will your "crappy" temporary university's acclaim be any better than your high school's?

    See, say you have a 3.9 or 4.0 or whatever GPA at your HS, and a 1400 or 1500 or whatever you got on the SAT, your personality and interests, and whatever else you do with your time speaking for you. I don't know how SAT scores work with transfer apps, but even if you took it again, you're probably not going to be that much higher. If you work hard, how much room do you really have to improve your GPA vs. your HS GPA? Will you have any time for extra-curriculars or leadership that will appeal to NYU? Your personality presumably won't change much.

    So what is it that realistically you can improve about your value equation in the upcoming year? That's where I would start in thinking about this. If you can present a better value equation to NYU in a year, go for it. But otherwise, don't set yourself up for a second rejection plus a year of anger and bitterness....
     
  7. Hummer thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I was stupid because I rushed in my NYU app to beat the deadline for early decision. I had so much under my belt that I didn't put on the application because I was rushing. I just hoped (by a long shot, and by the letter that they sent me saying how easier it was to get in by applying for early decision) that my 3.4 GPA would be fine. Well anyways I do work 2 jobs, one associated with the school. I am practically (close to literally being) part of everything in my school and I'm currently running track when I decide to stay on the team. None of that was on my application. I thought that if I were rejected for early decision I'd be able to do it again for normal decision so I started my normal decision app with everything in it, but to my shock they don't deffer people to normal decision because they straight out say on their forums that if you're not good enough for early decision they don't expect you to be good enough for normal decision. So now my only chance is transferring.
     
  8. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    That makes sense... but you don't have to defend yourself to me... I didn't say what I said to challenge you... I said it because I think it's good advice. You need to go on the offense now -- not be defensive. If this is the thing you want, you need to do everything within your capacity to improve your value equation to NYU in as many ways as possible over the next year, and then sell them on it in your transfer app essays.
     
  9. Hummer thread starter macrumors 65816

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    My chances of getting in aren't what I'm questioning (well not in this thread at least). I'm just questioning if what I'm trying to do is possible. I graduate in May from High School, but I'm trying to start college in spring by taking mostly night classes and finishing up the semester by fall to start my second semester in September at NYU. Before I'm in college for spring I want to be able to apply to transfer from whatever college I'm in to NYU at the end of the semester. Being that I'm still in high school I'm wondering if its possible to apply as a transfer student when I'm not even in the school I'm going to transfer from yet.
     
  10. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Oh... that info should be readily available on NYU's website. Typically the answer is no. Most of the time the process is much quicker. You apply in the Spring and get notified in the Spring also, for the next fall. They'll almost certainly want to see results from your work at your other University.
     
  11. Spizzo macrumors 6502

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    They are probably gonna want to see some transcripts from the school you are trying to 'transfer' from. You could always try for spring of 09 if all else fails.
     
  12. Hummer thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yea thanks for the last two posts. That's probably my only possible chance of getting into NYU.
     
  13. Spizzo macrumors 6502

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    You should really take a serious look at other schools, and find somewhere you will be happy at. It's not NYU, but you may find out you like it better. Honestly, it's not the name of the school that is important, but what you get out of it. If you can get in in two semesters, great, but if for some reason you don't, you don't want to be stuck somewhere you are not happy.
     
  14. MarlboroLite macrumors 6502a

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    Not after one semester. You would have to stay at least one year, and then you have to ask yourself if it's worth it to go through the application nightmare all over again and then get one year scratched off the time you would have wanted to spend there.

    I was in a similar position with NYU as well. I wanted to go there but was waitlisted and ultimately rejected. My heart was set on transferring, but after a year I realized my other school wasn't so bad, and I just did not want to do the college application thing all over again.

    I just graduated a month ago a semester early and I couldn't be happier about my decision not to try to transfer.
     
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    There is really no such thing as a "crappy run of the mill" college, IMO. Only crappy run of the mill students. A higher education is all that matters.

    NYU is a very difficult school to get into. Competition is tough. If you didn't make it now, chances are slim that you'll make it in after one measly semester. Most people I know waited until the end of at least their freshmen year (and, no, they weren't community colleges) to apply to other schools, but only after receiving a stellar GPA at the present school
     
  16. devilot Moderator emeritus

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    I'm gonna ask something that no one else has mentioned...

    Why not appeal the decision? A lot of unis have to turn down a lot of students-- they just get so many applications! But of the X number of student they accept, not all of them actually end up there.

    Those who appeal? Show they really want to go there, and IIRC, have a much better shot of then getting in.

    Might be worth talking to 1) HS counselor and 2) NYU counselor/ admissions counselor about.
     
  17. itsallinurhead macrumors 6502

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    I think your choice is to go to a school you can perform better at.

    Schools don't reject people for no reason.
     
  18. Macky-Mac macrumors 68030

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    I think you're going to find that they wont treat you as a transfer student since these night classes will be taken while you're still a high school student. In any event, as others have said, you wont be able to finish these night classes by their transfer application deadline so you wont actually have any "college work" for them to consider.
     
  19. Hummer thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks for the idea. I'll talk to my guidance counselor as soon as I can.
     
  20. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    really like we told you last time the school means very little....

    As for doing one semester not going to work. You need more hours under your belt or they are going to treat you like a new student not a transfer student.


    Really NYU is not a good school for what you want to do for you degree. NY state is a better school. It NYS was founded on the science while the NYU was founded on the arts and what not. It is that way with top to schools in every state.

    You are dead set on going to a school for its name even though you can get a better education else where.
     
  21. mariahlullaby macrumors 6502a

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    Moreover, I believe a lot of schools will take another look at your application if you have new, altering information to to bring them (like you mentioned in the original post). I'd recommend appealing to admissions for a second chance in the regular admissions process.

    I'm a current NYU student, and I had a lot of trouble deciding if I should go (it was my first pick, but it was going to leave me in mountains of debt) and emailed the dean of my school (Steinhardt) directly. She responded and tried to help getting more financial aid by directing me tot he right people and emailed me to check on my progress. It didn't actually end up working for me after all that, but you never know who in the school might be able to help if they see your passion.

    Good luck, and if you have any NYU questions, feel free to ask me!
     
  22. jng macrumors 65816

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    You need to wake up. The fact that you sent in your app without mentioning all those things you should have (two jobs, track, etc) would say to me (if I were an admissions officer) that you're careless. I think you're running recklessly towards NYU and your plan quoted above is even more silly.

    Get over it. Go somewhere else. And preferably some place with a better reputation for computer sciences.

    But I bet you won't listen and you'll end up unhappily trying for the next sixth months at least scheming to get into NYU.
     
  23. mariahlullaby macrumors 6502a

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    In regards to this, I do think it is an odd choice for computer science to want to go to NYU, but if you love a school, you love a school. Try looking at other schools in the NYC area -- I'd recommend Hunter College. They're still accepting apps, and they have a great Honors program if you're interested in that, too.

    Good luck!
     
  24. Kamera RAWr macrumors 65816

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    Look into NYU's transfer policies. Many universities require at least a full years worth of credit at another institution before you can apply as a transfer student. If you have less than one full year of credit, they'll probably ask you to apply as a freshman.
     
  25. pooky macrumors 6502

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    Sure there is
    http://www.bju.edu/
     

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