So Ready for a MacBook Pro Touch or a MacPad Pro!

[snaky69]

Love the answers guys. Ok, why would any of you guys NOT want a full-blown or even half-blown (hybrid) Mac OS in your next iPad? #MacPad

Still not a good idea.

OS X is first and foremost and keyboard-centric OS. Pretty much every single function can be done with the keyboard, with little to no input from the mouse. Sure, if you get into photo or video editing you'll want a mouse, but from a purely OS standpoint, all you really need is the keyboard.

Getting a touch enabled OS X would mean rewriting a very very large portion of it. There's a reason why iOS and OS X are two separate entities, and I believe they should remain so. I hate how Apple has tried to merge iOS features into OS X (with most of them being not very useful on a computer). Launchpad is utterly useless. Pressing a cmd-space and typing 2-3 letters of the App's name will launch it faster than opening Launch Pad, waiting for the animation, finding it in the list and clicking it.

If Apple were to actually do so, it would have to be on some kind of tablet, not in a laptop of "conventional" form factor. Doing so in say, a rMBP is, as previously stated by many, unergonomic, and stupid.

The Microsoft Surface seems like a good try at this hybrid, probably the good way to go, but I still wouldn't want to use one.

 

[bj3949]

So, like one of these:

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/2-in-1/laptop-tablet.html

Yes like that but 10000 times cooler. Apple will take that bulkiness & boringness out of it & do something way cooler for the keyboard aspect of it. The "keyboard" itself is becoming dated. I think Apple will change "the keyboard".

 

[bcam117]

Yes like that but 10000 times cooler. Apple will take that bulkiness & boringness out of it & do something way cooler for the keyboard aspect of it. The "keyboard" itself is becoming dated. I think Apple will change "the keyboard".

Are you high or 15? I have an iPad, love it. But it's nothing like my mbp. Doing productive stuff on it just takes a lot longer. A lot of people need to have a good keyboard.

Do you really want all the UI elements to be huge just so people's sausage fingers can reach some form of accuracy?

 

[paolo-]

I'd really like to see what Apple could come up with to bring iOS and Mac OS together. I think the Surface Pro 3 is quite interesting and from the few minutes I spent with one, I was impressed. I'd love for my laptop to also be my tablet. You can do casual stuff while chilling on the sofa and using the computer as a tablet. When you need a full laptop, you just turn the cover around. Bonus it has a really nice stylus input.

Mac OS needs to remain a mouse and keyboard desktop in order to stay productive. iOS needs to remain simple and keep the large interface. I never thought I'd say this, but from what I'm seeing in Windows 10 it seems like they're on the right track. You can have your touch apps full screen when using it as a tablet and have those apps float around as windows when you switch over to a desktop environment is you still need them.

 

[bj3949]

Are you high or 15? I have an iPad, love it. But it's nothing like my mbp. Doing productive stuff on it just takes a lot longer. A lot of people need to have a good keyboard.

Do you really want all the UI elements to be huge just so people's sausage fingers can reach some form of accuracy?

No need to be rude, especially with a closed-mind. You will see a hybrid MacPad device quite soon. Surface just grazed the surface for us. You WILL be able to touch MacOS very soon.

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I'd really like to see what Apple could come up with to bring iOS and Mac OS together. I think the Surface Pro 3 is quite interesting and from the few minutes I spent with one, I was impressed. I'd love for my laptop to also be my tablet. You can do casual stuff while chilling on the sofa and using the computer as a tablet. When you need a full laptop, you just turn the cover around. Bonus it has a really nice stylus input.

Mac OS needs to remain a mouse and keyboard desktop in order to stay productive. iOS needs to remain simple and keep the large interface. I never thought I'd say this, but from what I'm seeing in Windows 10 it seems like they're on the right track. You can have your touch apps full screen when using it as a tablet and have those apps float around as windows when you switch over to a desktop environment is you still need them.

Agreed! Except that "Mac OS needs to remain a mouse and keyboard desktop in order to stay productive". I disagree with that. People will love having the option to touch the screen when they want to, especially if angles it closer to you, like Apple's iMac touch patent. It could be cool, for example, if as soon as you decide to touch the screen, it angles closer to you to your custom-set liking for zero arm soreness. When you're done touching, it goes back to where it was, or you can lock it etc..

 

[snorkelman]

I dont see one coming any time soon Id be surprised if it ever came at all,

That's not to say all uses for it are stupid, cant be helped if some folks just try to use them stupidly. ie sat on a desk with the screen in its conventional position waving their arms at it.


A touch enabled laptop that can twist and fold etc to get the screen face up would be a boon on site for me rather than trying to hold a latop in one hand while I peck away at keys or the touchpad Particularly when thats several feet off the ground lol

Likewise stick a decent combination of capacitive touch and wacom style digitizer on it and it would fill a niche for a 12" to 15" Cintiq style device

Theres some roles a future iPad with a decent wacom style stylus might be a good alternative but there's others where that ability to hold the device like a tablet but still actually have a fully fledged desktop OS would be preferable.

 

[paolo-]

Agreed! Except that "Mac OS needs to remain a mouse and keyboard desktop in order to stay productive". I disagree with that. People will love having the option to touch the screen when they want to, especially if angles it closer to you, like Apple's iMac touch patent. It could be cool, for example, if as soon as you decide to touch the screen, it angles closer to you to your custom-set liking for zero arm soreness. When you're done touching, it goes back to where it was, or you can lock it etc..

I don't mean it to strictly be a mouse and keyboard OS but I think the idea of having desktop apps that are friendly to fingers is a slippery slope. First, I don't think you can be as fast with your fingers to apply commands. Mac OS is great because hotkeys are at it's core. Once you learn your apps, you become extremely efficient. I think a problem can arise from a user interaction standpoint when you start making something that works with mouse/keyboard, touch and possibly pen.

For example, if Mac OS was to become touch interface friendly, you'd need to eliminate dropdown menus. Then, you'd need to make the icons larger so you can hit them with your fingers. I think that trying to make Mac OS work with full touch integration will just lead to a bad experience with your fingers and a worse experience when using your mouse and keyboard.

I can see some touch integration, for example, being able to scroll by touching the screen, dragging around windows... But I think the OS will need to have dedicated touch apps like on the iPad somehow separate from desktop apps. Or possibly apps with two views though that's horrible for developers.