True that. I took a hit and traded my year-old Air in to Apple for like $600. ah wellThey tanked the resale value for intel mac
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Everyone here is complaining of noise and heat with their MacBooks. Meanwhile my 2013 is quiet as a mouse when browsing.
🤔I've been doing that with Intel MacBooks since I bought my first in 2008 Never had one get even remotely warm in sleep mode - in fact. I couldn't tell if it were off or in sleep mode unless I opened the display.
No, I had a couple 2008 white MacBooks and a 2012 MBA. I'm deducing by the question that you had/have an issue with your 2016 MBP heating up when in sleep mode. But that's not an Intel problem, but a problem with that particular computer or something installed on it, because my Intel MBs were fine. Obviously they weren't designed to get hot in sleep mode, as tons of people cary them in sleeves or other enclosed areas.
and here I sit patiently waitingThey tanked the resale value for intel mac
Real pros need to have a roadmap and some evidence of what the plans are to enable proper forecasting. Not rumour and conjecture.
Apple is a total nightmare to specify now for my studio. We are investing in PC's instead.
You're telling me:
I hadn't upgraded because having worked at Intel, I know the issues their CPUs have been going through, since I maintained a data center there. Glad I waited, and am just waiting for the next line of MBPs to come out, then I'm jumping.
Though I have to say that this MBA has been a workhorse for the better part of 5 years on Sierra, let alone starting on Lion. But time to pass this one to the kids and hit up the next M-series MBP.
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Yeah, that's about just before their problems started. They calculated on process improvements to counter the extra heat generated by their new architectures. Then the process improvements didn't appear. So they launched the chips anyway on the old process, melting half the planet at once. My 2013 13" MBP was a fridge compared to my 16" as well.
What model? How many cores? Does it have a discrete GPU or intel only? Are you using an external monitor? Apples to Apples comparisons only please. 😂
My 2013 MBP15 with Nvidia GPU ran much hotter when an external display was connected as once again, Apple forces the dgpu on when connected to external display.
mbp13’s never have this problem due to lack of dgpu
2015 MBP15 with iris pro only didn’t have this problem either as they were closer to how mbp13 are set up.
I had every 13" Intel MacBook Pro since 2015. They get hot, a lot, fans starts with easy usage. My last quad-core i7 2020 was like an helicopter. M1 is completely silent, only handbrake decode lets the fan runs when all 8 cores are running.
Not correct. This is a well-known problem with Intel MacBook Pros from 2016 and onwards. Put them in a bag in sleep mode and risk overheating the mother board. The only solution is to shut it down first.
To make it even worse there is no light or indicator to know if it's in sleep mode or not. You have to open the MacBook to check. If it's not, you have to wait while the Mac boots up before shutting it down again. It's an appalling user experience that I won't miss.
My experience is with a 2016 13" MacBook Pro by the way, with no discrete GPU. It gets hot no matter what, regardless of the workload. It is most definitely a problem with the Intel CPU and a chassis that can't properly handle the heat output.
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So why didn't you just return the MPB or get it repaired or replaced under warranty? What you describe is a textbook hardware defect that would surely be covered under the standard warranty.
No portable should be designed to be driven at max power consumption with the clamshell closed while in an enclosed bag. Thats loony.
Interesting, thanks for sharing! I've noticed differences between the left/right and front/back ports on my MBP16 as far as sound output (USB external dac connected through USB C monitor). Front port on the right side seems to be the sweet spot.
The best I could figure out, it was probably set to wake for network access. But I had that feature turned off and it was still overheating when closed and placed in a bag or sleeve. Even with light tasks such as email and Safari it always got hot.
Anyway these problems are fully resolved by the M1 MacBooks so it's all in the past.
Indeed. If you kernel panic on sleep- which is he much more likely scenario to hit during a power state change like sleep - then it makes much more sense.
not all Intel systems are like that. i have an Early 2015 13" and it's fine tbh. i have a custom fancurve set so the fan is at full blast at 80c and starts ramping up form 45c, so you'd expect this to be loud. but unless i'm like installing stuff, compiling things etc it's super quiet. while web browsing i can't hear it at all.
now yes i have opened it up a few days ago and cleaned the dust out of it, so that certainly helps, but still.