so this mac mini hype is BS (read why)

Winstonp

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Mac mini with edu discount -502$
Crucial 1 GB chip- $238
LCD 17' - 300$
Apple Keyboard-28$ taxed
Kensington Wireless mouse 30$ refurb.

Total:

$1,099


iMac G5 1.6GHz/ 256MB/ 80GB/ Combo/ 56K/ 17-inch - 1,099

I saved a dollar!
 

Sun Baked

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If you want a new machine, buy one.

If you are replacing an older CPU, then the Mac Mini makes sense... if you have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, scanner, printer, etc.

Cheap PowerMac.... 1499

Mac Mini... 499

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And there are quite a few people for who the Mac Mini is an upgrade in standard configuration.

Nobody is forcing you to buy all the add-ons.

Or are you one of the weak minded fools that thinks Ronald McDonald is chasing you, stuffing burgers down your gullet and making you fat. So suing McDonald's seems like a good idea because "they" ruined your figure and made you fat.

Could be you don't know Jack about Macs, and don't realize that the eMac is $799 and comes with a monitor, keyboard, and mouse... :rolleyes:
 

QCassidy352

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Congratulations on posting something that has been posted COUNTLESS times before and on COMPLETELY missing the point.

The mini and the imac have different target audiences. The mini is not targeted at those who have to buy all of those add ons but rather those looking to replace a cheap piece of crap PC.
 

Chip NoVaMac

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biscool said:
So why did you add a 1gb ram chip...oh - to jack up the price...i see....
Good catch. And the extra $2 for the mouse of his choice too.

I just want to be able to get his EDU pricing on the Mac mini. (Apple is saying $579) :D
 

Chip NoVaMac

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In looking at the Apple Store EDU pricing Winstonp, your pricing is flawed. Doing a direct comparison:

iMac G5 with your specs is $1199

Mac mini with a 17" LCD at $300 (and keyboard/mouse) would be $876. A savings of $323.

For some this is a major difference.
 

Abstract

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Can you add the price of an extra 1GB of RAM, and the wireless, 2+ button mouse to the price of the iMac. And even with an EDU discount, I find that the price of the iMac 1.6GHz 17" model is $1199, not $1099.

If you can adjust the price of the iMac to account for all of the above, that would be great. You might also see our point. ;)
 

carlos700

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Dec 17, 2004
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Well for those who already have the accessories the price would be $499 for the 1.25 GHz or $599 for the 1.42 GHz. If you have a perfectly good monitor no need to by an eMac.

I think he is missing the purpose of the Mac mini -unless he is just trying to anger people.
 

sorryiwasdreami

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biscool said:
So why did you add a 1gb ram chip...oh - to jack up the price...i see....
Yeah, I agree. Not many mini mac users are going to need that kind of ram. Just today I ran the following apps to see how much ram I was using of my 1GB on an iMac G5 17."

Do I need more ram?
Quicksilver
WeatherDock
Safari with 2 windows
Firefox with 8 tabs of Macrumors
iTunes
iPhoto
iChat
Photoshop CS
Microsoft Word
7 instances of the finder
Backlight
System Preferences
Gcount
Quicktime with 2 movies
Disctop

All those programs ran with 300MB ram to spare (of 1GB)! The average user will probably need 512mb to 768mb.
 

Chip NoVaMac

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carlos700 said:
Well for those who already have the accessories the price would be $499 for the 1.25 GHz or $599 for the 1.42 GHz. If you have a perfectly good monitor no need to by an eMac.

I think he is missing the purpose of the Mac mini -unless he is just trying to anger people.
Hopefully he wasn't trolling. Some regular members are doing a great job on the Mac mini in that regard.
 

QCassidy352

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sorryiwasdreami said:
Yeah, I agree. Not many mini mac users are going to need that kind of ram. Just today I ran the following apps to see how much ram I was using of my 1GB on an iMac G5 17."

Do I need more ram?
Quicksilver
WeatherDock
Safari with 2 windows
Firefox with 8 tabs of Macrumors
iTunes
iPhoto
iChat
Photoshop CS
Microsoft Word
7 instances of the finder
Backlight
System Preferences
Gcount
Quicktime with 2 movies
Disctop

All those programs ran with 300MB ram to spare (of 1GB)! The average user will probably need 512mb to 768mb.
I find that the whole OS X experience runs better with more RAM though. I don't care what the RAM monitor app says; 512 feels sluggish in places that a gig doesn't. Just my experience.
 

kugino

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QCassidy352 said:
I find that the whole OS X experience runs better with more RAM though. I don't care what the RAM monitor app says; 512 feels sluggish in places that a gig doesn't. Just my experience.
i agree...my 1 ghz g4 ibook w/768 ram feels sluggish at times, even though it says i have 300 mb of free ram...i even want to add another 2 gb of ram on my PM 2.0 because 2.5 gb just doesn't cut it these days :eek:

512 is enough to run os x okay, but if someone can afford to get the 1 gig, i'd recommend it. not necessary, but extremely helpful.
 

homerjward

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Abstract said:
Can you add the price of an extra 1GB of RAM, and the wireless, 2+ button mouse to the price of the iMac. And even with an EDU discount, I find that the price of the iMac 1.6GHz 17" model is $1199, not $1099.

If you can adjust the price of the iMac to account for all of the above, that would be great. You might also see our point. ;)
the 1099 imac has no optical, a 40gb pata hard drive, and a geforce 4 mx with 32mb vram! i dont think that's the regular imac lol
the imac with a 1gig chip of ram (1 chip cause that's whats in teh mini) comes to 1581us with edu discount and a kensington wireless mouse (cheapest new one) is 35 bucks, 40 for the studiomouse.
 

Rod Rod

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Winstonp said:
Mac mini with edu discount -502$
Crucial 1 GB chip- $238
LCD 17' - 300$
Apple Keyboard-28$ taxed
Kensington Wireless mouse 30$ refurb.

Total:

$1,099


iMac G5 1.6GHz/ 256MB/ 80GB/ Combo/ 56K/ 17-inch - 1,099

I saved a dollar!
Mac mini with educational discount: $479
1GB RAM module (linked from ramseeker.com): $166
USB keyboard and mouse: already paid for
Monitor: already paid for
Electricity: the bill comes every month

Total: $645
with my local tax rate: $688.54

eMac with educational discount: $749
1GB RAM module (same as above): $166
(1.25GB total RAM)

Total: $915
with my tax rate: $976.76
 

Winstonp

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ok sorry about all this confusion. I DID pay all of these prices.

I bought crucial ram yesterday from crucial. With tax it was 238$

I did buy the mouse it was 30$ at my universities computer store.

The macmini was 502 with tax in massachussets. (479 plus tax)

The LCD is not Apple branded, it is an SVA LCD with built in tuner.

The keybaord was 26 plus tax.

Maybe I did the wrong math in adding up, but this is all a true story of what I êxperienced. I'm not upset with myself at all, not saying I made a mistkae or that anyone else is, I love this machine, but I thought I'd just share a personal experience
Winston
 

jsw

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Well, then, as others have pointed out, the primary difference was the RAM - and that accounted for over $200. Plus, the iMac was refurb and was an educational model (no optical, etc., as has been pointed out).

So you aren't really comparing, er, apples to apples.

I mean, I could have gotten a Porsche for the price of my Honda minivan, but it would have been a used one with no features and some damage.
 

SodaPopMonster

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Winstonp said:
oh and the imac was the price in the special deals section.
Which means that it was a refurb, therefore much cheaper.(correct me if I'm wrong)

And yes, I think this guy is missing the point of the Mac mini-Also, i've seen keyboards at micro center for $9.99(and a mouse for $5) :rolleyes:
 

crazzyeddie

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SodaPopMonster said:
And yes, I think this guy is missing the point of the Mac mini-Also, i've seen keyboards at micro center for $9.99(and a mouse for $5) :rolleyes:
Unfortunately, almost all of those cheap KB/Mice are PS/2, not USB. Plus, I have no problem with spending even $150 on a good KB/Mouse combo, considering its the most important part of your computer (can't use one without them) and you have to physically deal with them all the time.