So torn; Keep the One m8 or get the S5?

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  1. Tig Bitties macrumors 68030

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    Hello, would like some honest advice and opinions please, on whether to keep my new ATT HTC One M8 or get the ATT Galaxy S5 ?

    I am no fanboy, I have owned like 11 or 12 different Android phones over the past four years, HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola, etc... To me the company brand doesn't really matter whatsoever. In this order is my opinion on most important features; #1 = Best battery life, #2 = Best screen, #3 = Pocketable and good feel in hand, and weight in pants / shorts, #4 = Root option, to debloat the phone, and install apps like AdAway, and Greenify, and Xposed Framework, #4 = Smoothness of the OS and UI, no lag, and good looking UI.

    Little recent phone history the past year, I have had the ATT S4 since the Fall, and before that the Nexus 4. Got rid of the Nexus due to average battery life, and dropped it and cracked the screen. Got the ATT S4, and liked it, but didn't know about the lock bootloader before I bought it, so Root was my only option, but I was cool with that, root allowed me to all I wanted, like delete apps, install root apps, and also Xposed framework with Wanam, and I turned my S4 into a cool phone, but the S4 screen always seemed too dim for outdoors, and battery life was ok, not bad, not great, and it did lag a little here and there. So...time for an upgrade.

    Reading every review out there between the new HTC One M8 and Samsung Galaxy S5, made them seem like such a tie, it was more personal features that separated them, but hardware wise, both phones share very similar components, and pretty close battery life.

    After owning the One M8 for a week now, only noticeable drawbacks coming form an S4, is the weight of the M8 feels much heavier, especially when in the pockets of my pants or coat, it weighs it down noticeably more than the S4 did, and with gym shorts on the M8 feels like a brick, where the S4 was very feather light in comparison. And turning it on, the S4 with the bottom home button, I was so used to pressing then and then swiping hand to turn on the screen. The M8 has knock on, which is ok, but I don't like it that much, and then the power button on top to turn screen on, is a little pain.

    But the M8 has a very beautiful LCD screen, and looks great outdoors. The speed of the M8 is crazy fast. And Sense 6 looks really good, almost like stock Android, but lightly improved or touched up. Where as Touchwiz on my S4 was an ugly mess. The settings on the Galaxy S4 was a cluster**** design, where as the Sense 6 settings menu is smart and clean looking.

    But I did see a coworker with a new S5, and I did get a little jealous of it, the screen looked pretty dang sweet and his all black S5 phone in a black case, looked stealth bad ass cool :cool: The M8 in dark gray, doesn't really have an exact color matching case, so with a case on the M8 it really loose the coolness big time, this M8 looks best naked, as soon as a case it put on it, the great design disappears.

    Only thing keeping me back from the S5, is ATT, and no Root, and I know for sure no bootloader unlock coming ever, but at least basic Root I need on a phone. How do you use a phone with all that crapwear installed without removing it ? And I can't afford the $700 to buy an off contract S5, plus I think that's outrageous to pay, I'd just wait for the One+ or Nexus 6 for $399.

    So bottom line, is the ATT S5 worth it over the M8, if I like the lighter weight, the home button to turn it on, the gorgeous screen, and stealth look of the black design ? But with no Root, not sure I can live with that ? But then I do love Sense 6, and the ROM'ing I can do on the M8, and battery life has been off the charts good on this M8 with my rooted settings, which battery life is extremely important to me.

    So ... ?
     
  2. LSUtigers03, Apr 27, 2014
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    So torn; Keep the One m8 or get the S5 ?

    My sister recently got the S5 so I borrowed it and spent some time messing around with it. I've had every Note phone and every Galaxy phone up to the S4. I stuck with Samsung for the removable battery and the micro sd card slot. I've never liked Touchwiz but now I've grown to hate it. My sister's brand new top of the line S5 has lag that the Moto G doesn't have. Touchwiz takes a great OS and ruins it. In the past Samsung phones were great because they had a huge dev community. Now Knox is ruining that. Touchwiz probably won't change for the better because Samsung sells an insane amount of phones so why would they need to make a change?

    I haven't used the M8 but I did have the M7. The M7 didn't have great battery life and didn't have a micro sd card slot. From everything I've heard the M8 has great battery life and it has a micro sd card slot. If you want to root any new Samsung phone isn't for you. You'll trip Knox and then your warranty is gone. I would stick with the M8. It's large in relation to its screen size but you get the great boom sound speakers and sense 6 is light years ahead of Touchwiz. If you want to get a Samsung phone I would stick with the Note series. The extra gig of ram really helps Touchwiz run better and the spen suite is really useful.
     
  3. sixrom macrumors 6502a

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    I currently have both the M8 & S5. The brand is secondary to me as long as they have a decent track record. Having had lots of smartphones, and always carrying two for work and personal, the experiences have been priceless. Based on the OP's post I'd suggest the Nexus 5. It's been my favorite daily driver since it was released.

    The Galaxy S5 is very nice as is the M8, however nothing beats the bloat free Nexus 5. They've made some rolling changes to the hardware on the phones that are currently shipping, so I bought one last week to replace my original. The battery life is outstanding as is the camera. Overall the improvements are terrific.

    I'm on AT&T with these phones.
     
  4. Tig Bitties thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I will say, the M8 feels very premium in the hand, and the screen is extremely crisp, bright, and clear looking. My old S4 feels like a kids plastic toy, compared to the luxury feel of the M8. And Sense 6 with the Black / White colors, looks very professional and polished, compared to the butt ugly nasty Touchwiz on my S4.

    But I haven't really played with an S5 much, so I am comparing my M8 to S4 which isn't fair.

    I just miss the lightweight feel of the S4, with the rounded corners, felt very good in the palm of the hand.
     
  5. Tig Bitties thread starter macrumors 68030

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    If I was going to get the Nexus 5, I'll just keep the M8, it has better battery life and nicer screen IMO. Plus I can just flash the GPE ROM if I want someday. I think I'll keep this M8, it is growing on me, and battery life has been fantastic, almost as good as my old Note 2.
     
  6. MRU, Apr 27, 2014
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    Rooting / Roms without breaking your device...

    If rooting is important keep the M8. With Knox on the S5 - rooting breaks your warranty and may break the finger print scanner for good.

    Likewise if you want to streamline your experience and de bloat - you have the option of turning the HTC M8 into a proper google edition device, one that is capable of getting OTA updates from Google.

    But to be honest, sense is so streamlined it is often more efficient memory wise with same apps open than my Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition.



    It honestly sounds to me like you have a touch of the 'grass is greener in the other field' ... Were almost getting device apathy at this stage.

    I'd get an galaxy S5 if I wanted the better camera, everything else on your list I'd choose the M8. The speed is striking, again comparing it to my Google Edition S4 with animations turned down to .5x and the M8 on default sense, the M8 is still faster at opening apps, multitasking between them which surprised me because going from Touchwiz S4 to a Note 3 Touchwiz to my GPE S4 I thought it was blazing fast, so for the M8 to be faster genuinely surprised me.
     
  7. Fernandez21 macrumors 601

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    I've only briefly played with the S5, I do have a Note 3 that I used as my main phone for a couple of months before giving it to my wife. The software and cheap feeling design really ruin using a Samsung device for me, I ddoubt I'll get any more Samsung devices in the future except maybe the next Note unless they change those 2 components. I've been really happy with my M8, feels incredible and Sense I like as much as stock android.

    I would stick with the M8 unless the weight was really bothering you, the screen while it may be better on the S5, the difference is barely noticeable and the screen on the M8 is still one of the best out there. On my Note it was pretty tough to see out doors, though they supposeably fixed that on the S5.

    Another option is the Moto X, is is small and light weight, has good battery life, and has great software. You will be giving up some battery life and screen quality, but both are still really good on the Moto X, just not as good as the new flagships.
     
  8. soulreaver99 macrumors 68020

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    Stick with the M8, unless the camera is that much more important to you. Although the M8 is capable of taking decent pictures.
     
  9. Stooby Mcdoobie macrumors 6502a

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    If you're going to go that route, I would suggest achieving S-OFF before HTC patches the current exploit via updated HBOOT. Of course you don't have to do this and can flash the GPE ROM with S-ON, but with S-OFF you can do a full GPE conversion and receive OTA updates.
     
  10. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    ^ true... Must do s-off myself sooner rather than later too.
     
  11. Fernandez21 macrumors 601

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    If I want to convert mine to stock sense, meaning I get updates from HTC instead of at&t, would I need to do s-off? And is that conversion currently available? Wasn't going to mess with it until the next update from HTC was available, but if its something I would have to do now I would like to know.
     
  12. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    You unlock the bootloader first at HTCdev.com

    You then root the device, and then s-off.

    Change your CID to supercid.

    Once you have done those you can install a stock firmware (RUU) from HTC.

    You then change the CID from supercid to the one matching the territory of your stock firmware image.


    Hey presto you now can receive full OTA updates for your stock rom from HTC.


    Plenty of YouTube guides to make it easy. Just follow the instructions :)

    http://youtu.be/rEVSfwXsx-c


    ^ this you tuber has great videos to follow.
     
  13. Fernandez21 macrumors 601

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    Sweet, thanks. I'll see if I have time to do this tonight.
     
  14. Stooby Mcdoobie, Apr 27, 2014
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    I see MRU has already covered the answer to your question, but yeah it's essentially the same process as going from Sense to GPE. I did this with my M7 before I sold it. I initially converted it from the AT&T carrier model to GPE, then from GPE to Dev edition for the person buying it from me.

    You should be able to find the Dev and other Sense RUUs on HTC's website or XDA.

    Edit: Doesn't look like they've posted up the Dev edition RUU yet. I would still go ahead and do S-OFF though while you have the chance.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. jamezr macrumors G4

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    I think it depends on your uses.....if camera is vital to you...then the S5....
    If premium build materials.....the M8...

    They both get great battery life.
    Are you outdoors near water? The S5 is water resistant...not water proof...but at least AT&T and Samsung will replace it if you drop it in the water and the phone is ruined.
    Rooting and unlocking....then the M8. You can unlock it (not sure it it voids warranty) and flash roms. I have heard there are some great roms for the M8.
    The S5 will get root.....but not anytime soon.......
    Size and weight are almost the same.......the M8 is a little taller and heavier.
    S5 has a replaceable battery....but it gets great battery life so....
    Button placement if that matters to you.......is different on both phones. The M8 has the wake/sleep button on top of the phone. The S5 has it on the side.
    Home buttons.......S5 has a physical home button. The m8 uses on screen buttons. Again it depends on personal choice.
    Really with either phone you cannot go wrong! They are both great phones!
     
  16. gotluck, Apr 27, 2014
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    It is amazing what S-off can do.

    If only the equivalent existed for other oem phones.

    Samsung is very locked down in comparison, even google edition samsung

    As far as the choice btw these 2 phones, it is a difficult choice indeed
     
  17. Robster3 macrumors 68000

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    Coming from a 5S i would keep the M8, i like the power button on the top, don't like home buttons, and there is no lag, and call quality/reception and speaker phone is A1. If i had to buy a Samsung now would get a Note 3, cheaper and you get a s-pen.
    I just spent 1K on a nice Sony camera with NFC so no phone camera will benefit me.
    The only thing the S5 has going that interests me is it is water proof and no case needed. Although time will tell on that one.
     
  18. KillaMac Suspended

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    I had the s3, S4, iPhone 5, note 3 as my last personal phone and a 5s for work. I now have a m8 for my personal phone and it kills any galaxy phone I have owned. Super smooth interface. No lag. No bugs. Build quality and screen excellent. Cell signal stronger that Samsung's in my work building. I probably won't own another Samsung unless they fix the lag and bloatware.
     
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    Off topic, but what Sony did you buy?
     
  20. Technarchy, Apr 27, 2014
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    Reasons I got the S5. Note this is not a laundry list, this is stuff I use or benefit from in reality, and not mentioned for the sake of pure specs.

    -Better Camera. Not even close.
    -Much better screen
    -Home button
    -5.1" screen is really that. No getting shafted by software buttons taking up space
    -One handed mode. For those that love the iPhone 4" screen, you can have it.
    -Water resistant. Because stuff happens
    -USB 3.0. Faster data transfer, faster charge times. Like iPhone class charge times.
    -AMOLED. Contrast, colors, energy conservation potential due to the way black is handled. Real black too, not sorta gray blackish.
    -Ecosystem. TV's, Smart Watches, and lord knows what else.
    -I ski. The S5 screen works with gloves.
    -I bike, run, and work out 4 days a week. I track my heart rate. The S5 makes it easier.
    -Useable and better multitasking. I can watch Youtube and play on Macrumors at the same time. Message the wife while in Maps, or while managing photos. Having two apps on the screen does wonders.
    -Lighter
    -Smaller
    -Replaceable battery. Easy to replace degraded batteries after a year or two
    -S-finder. Easy global search
    -Better aftermarket support and business support. I was able to get a Zagg glass shield and Ringke case locally with no effort. The number of actual case options is vast. No hunting through amazon or waiting a week. Everything I needed was walking distance from home.
    -Fingerprint scanner. Not as clean TouchID but effective enough. I'm getting about 75% success on the first attempt now I know where and how to swipe. Phone locks down right away. Even if it snatched off a table at dinner, no one is getting into it.
    -Samsung browser. Real full screen mode, fast as hell, smooth, stable. Favorite browser in the android world.
     
  21. Robster3 macrumors 68000

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    Sony A6000, was about my budget, takes really nice photos. The NFC and wifi is great with my M8. Has a app that downloads the photos to your phone or iPad when you turn the camera off automatically or can do manually. Same to macbook. Fast too. Was down the beach yesterday took some shots then jumped in the car and downloaded onto my iPad and phone. Creates its own wifi. You can also use the phone as a remote with NFC.
    1K was with a 55-20mm lens too. Very happy.

    Way off topic but if you don't ask;)
     
  22. Tig Bitties thread starter macrumors 68030

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    One minor thing, I like the look of the black colored S5 with a cool flat black case on it, looks very stealth and bad ass, and the phone sits flat on a desk with a case, easy to still use the phone flat. Where as the M8 is curved, and any case on the M8 immediately kills the great looks of the new One. Is funny, the S5 actually looks better with the right case on it, and the M8 only looks awesome naked, but is dangerous to run around with the M8 unprotected. I haven't see any good looking case for the M8 yet, they all destroy the beauty of the phone.
     
  23. jamezr macrumors G4

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    I agree...i never understood the need for such great build materials. If they make the phone so delicate that you have to put a case on it to protect it from damage. You cover the premium design with a plastic case. I usually do not put cases on my phones....just a personal preference.
     
  24. Technarchy macrumors 603

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    Had a black S5 and traded for white. I like the contrast it creates.

    But you are right. Thin black case, with black S5 is super sleek.
     
  25. Robster3 macrumors 68000

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    I use this, looks great with the gun metal, still shows off some of the phone and has a really nice non slip mat feel to it.

    http://www.case-mate.com/htc-one-m8-cases/case-mate-htc-one-m8-barely-there-case.asp#

    I would get a black S5, if they are meant to be used in and around water it wouldn't get as dirty.
    Saw a white one in store and it did look nice though. Probably better suited to women or office workers.
    S5 doesn't need a case one of the good things about it.
     

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