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So are Apple actually attending NAB? If so, what time are they down to do whatever they plan to do?

No. It would appear that another company, Integrated Media Technologies is holding an event tomorrow afternoon. The only tie in seems to be that they will be using Apple products to demonstrate whatever they are doing. It also appears to be a very private event.

Or it could be Apple just holding a very secret meeting. As much as I want it to be true, I find this very, very, very unlikely.
 
Frankly, I think they just don't give a **** about us pro users. That's why they updated the macbook pro when the macpro is over a year out of date. But, as the dude said above... if you want an overpriced outdated piece of hardware, buy it!
:rolleyes:

You guys are sounding like Mini owners were when they were up to month 18 before the new Mini models were released.
 
Brilliant, just because I didn't sign up to this particular website before you, thus have the 'newbie' status, you automatically assume I don't know what I am talking about.

Perhaps I care because it is obvious that it will be updated soon. I'm not going to buy old technology, and was just wondering if anyone had any ideas as to when they could be released.

Why waste you time posting ridiculous and inappropriate comments?

What he's saying is there are numerous other threads here asking when people think a new Pro will be released so there was no need to start another one.
 
It's possible that the MP's could disappear, but the software remain in development to be run on iMacs. Or on a really rare note (if the iMac and Mini see their demise as well), license OS X for other machines which would allow the OS X versions of professional software to continue even without an actual Mac in desktop form.

What about this? If Apple decides it can't profit from making its own Mac Pros, might it do a limited licensing program for another company or two to make high-end clones? Unlike their clone program in the 90s, they could choose to limit the licenses to specific high-end models that did not compete with iMacs or MacBooks. And they could include an Apple certification process so that quality and stability would be maintained. Really just a form of subcontracting, but possibly co-branded with the actual manufacturer (I dunno, HP or somebody like that). Seems like it could be a win-win-win: Apple wins from license revenues without undercutting its own profitable lines; partner company wins from hardware profits; users win by having a motivated producer of up-to-date hardware.

Or is this simply such a non-Steve thing that it just can't happen?
 
What he's saying is there are numerous other threads here asking when people think a new Pro will be released so there was no need to start another one.


Notwithstanding this forums rules, I disagree, the more threads the better. maybe Apple will take notice. Out of sight, out of mind. And by the way, I agree with the above post, Apple should (but won't anytime soon) license the OS out. It's ok for windows to run on mac but not the other way around? Doesn't seem right.
 
Are people forgetting that its more likely due to Apple waiting for readily available Tech - i.e; the new Xeon's.... ?

I'd hazard a guess at June time-frame for general availability of the new Mac Pro ;)
 
The MR update cycle gets biased sometimes by minor updates. As far as architectures, there have only been 3 iterations of the Mac Pro since 2006 (all of which were current for over a year). Even if the Mac Pro was not profitable, which I seriously doubt, it will be around for a long time to come.

I think that the MP and XServe are just as safe in the product line as the laptops...
 
Are people forgetting that its more likely due to Apple waiting for readily available Tech - i.e; the new Xeon's.... ?

I'd hazard a guess at June time-frame for general availability of the new Mac Pro ;)

Uhh...... I believe the hexa-core Xeons are already out. Hence the multiple questions about where it is.

People, you need your voices to be heard by Apple. Submit feedback and ask Apple why the Mac Pro is on the "pay no mind" list.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html

And while you are there, tell them to includt the Radeon 5870XT as an option. :p
 
Uhh...... I believe the hexa-core Xeons are already out. Hence the multiple questions about where it is.

People, you need your voices to be heard by Apple. Submit feedback and ask Apple why the Mac Pro is on the "pay no mind" list.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macpro.html

And while you are there, tell them to includt the Radeon 5870XT as an option. :p

They may have been released but the 5600 series 6 core Xeons are in very short supply at the moment.
 
Yes parts will be available for some time,

... but it won't matter to most , once they have bought the eventual replacement to the current MacSlows.
You're making no logical sense here. No real explaination or support.

Because of NAB...
Mac Pro

April NAB Release: WAY more sales.
May/June Release: Average to less sales.
The MP is a niche product, and those that need one, do their research. That is, they pay very close attention to any information that's released (leaks, official announcements; including Intel,...). So it's much more immune/insulated than consumer products in terms of release dates & sales. People will wait if at all possible, otherwise if its immediate need, they'll buy what's currently available, as it's earning an income.

What about this? If Apple decides it can't profit from making its own Mac Pros, might it do a limited licensing program for another company or two to make high-end clones? Unlike their clone program in the 90s, they could choose to limit the licenses to specific high-end models that did not compete with iMacs or MacBooks. And they could include an Apple certification process so that quality and stability would be maintained. Really just a form of subcontracting, but possibly co-branded with the actual manufacturer (I dunno, HP or somebody like that). Seems like it could be a win-win-win: Apple wins from license revenues without undercutting its own profitable lines; partner company wins from hardware profits; users win by having a motivated producer of up-to-date hardware.

Or is this simply such a non-Steve thing that it just can't happen?
As it stands, the MP is already contracted out to ODM's. They don't touch the software side however.

What you propose isn't likely at all, given their penchant for secrecy, and most importantly, absolute control. Licensing OS X while other systems they sell still uses it (full OS X, not the device variant/s), would sacrifice control.

My earlier comments on licensing is based on the premise that Apple ends everything but the portable device market (nothing that runs full OS X any longer). This would put them in a position that they essentially have to, as they'd no longer produce (sell, as the hardware is ODM'ed save the enclosure) a system that they can use as a developer platform.

They may have been released but the 5600 series 6 core Xeons are in very short supply at the moment.
I'm not sure if they're having slow start issues with the 32nm process, or are holding parts for large volume contracts in order to meet delivery deadlines set within them.

But getting your hands on one via the retail channels isn't that easy yet.

Provantage has them in stock, so if resellers have them, you can bet your bottom dollar that Apple does (or can).

Provantage 6-Core Xeons
I took a look, and they had 1 part in stock (Q = 1) of a Retail X5670. Everything else was listed as special order/out of stock.

They could be storing/stockpiling parts for an order made by Apple (and other vendors) to meet the negotiated delivery date & quantity schedule (parts are shipped over time, so it's not one massive delivery).
 
Apple won't discontinue the Mac Pro. They need and want people to buy Final Cut and the rest of their pro apps. The Mac Pro is the ideal platform for that.

They probably haven't updated because they view dual quad-core nehalems as being more than adequate for running those pro apps and are waiting for something major before updating them.
 
I am afraid that by the time Apple comes out with the new MacPros (speculations up to June) they will have new iMacs in the wings.
With the last iMac update the Core i7 iMac came close to the octocore MP in performance (except for the lousy ATI graphics card). As Apple is going to update the graphics on the iMacs soon, it seems there will be almost an overlap between the fastest iMac and the slowest MP. Given the much higher volume and relatively lower price, an iMac with an ATI 5XXX graphics card, the 27inch monitor and a fast quad-core would be an excellent value.
 
With the last iMac update the Core i7 iMac came close to the octocore MP in performance (except for the lousy ATI graphics card).

How is this true? Maybe for single-core speed, but if that is what you are after, then you would not be considering an 8-core Mac Pro in the first place.

There is no perfect bench test, but single-core speed is almost irrelevant.
 
...but single-core speed is almost irrelevant.
Not true, as most software is still single threaded (and some will remain that way, such as word processing or any other application that depends on keyboard input for data).
 
Apple won't discontinue the Mac Pro. They need and want people to buy Final Cut and the rest of their pro apps. The Mac Pro is the ideal platform for that.

They probably haven't updated because they view dual quad-core nehalems as being more than adequate for running those pro apps and are waiting for something major before updating them.

It may be the ideal machine for pro apps such as FCP, but it may not be the ideal business model for Apple anymore.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the next biggest thing would be the next processor update, which would be in 2011, right?
 
It may be the ideal machine for pro apps such as FCP, but it may not be the ideal business model for Apple anymore.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the next biggest thing would be the next processor update, which would be in 2011, right?

I don't think the Mac Pro and the Power Mac before it were ever the ideal business model for Apple. By definition, a higher cost product targeted at professionals rather than the mass market won't sell as much as a consumer electronics device like an iPod or iPhone.

Doesn't mean it's not still profitable, and doesn't mean Apple will abandon the Mac Pro and the pro apps that are designed for it. I just don't think the iMac is meant to be the future platform for Apple's pro apps.
 

FAKE. First, I believe the current Mac Pro model is 4,1. Second, 12 gigs of DDR-2 memory?????? The current Intel architecture uses DDR-3.

Third, the OSX build would be different. The current build is 10D573.

Also, I think it's been proven before that you can alter some meta file to produce Geekbench results like that.
 
I clicked that link, they have 1 processor in stock, 2 back ordered and 7 available for special order so that doesn't really support them being readily available.

To be fair, when I posted it earlier there were 22 in stock of the retail 2.66 version. But it will be fun to revisit the link from time to time to see their stock levels.

Remember, this is just one retailer.
 
FAKE. First, I believe the current Mac Pro model is 4,1. Second, 12 gigs of DDR-2 memory?????? The current Intel architecture uses DDR-3.

Third, the OSX build would be different. The current build is 10D573.

Also, I think it's been proven before that you can alter some meta file to produce Geekbench results like that.

Haha, DDR-2 memory! Good call. Not that I even came close to believing that was real to begin with...
 
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