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macOS So what programming / comp sci books did you get for Christmas?

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robj

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I have read the Aaron Hilleglass Cocoa book and I consider it very good for beginners.

Now I'm looking for a book to deep into cocoa and OSX programming.

The same author has a book about this, but I think it's a little bit outdated ( published in 2006 ).

Could you recommend me some book?
 
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robj said:
I have read the Aaron Hilleglass Cocoa book and I consider it very good for beginners.

Now I'm looking for a book to deep into cocoa and OSX programming.

The same author has a book about this, but I think it's a little bit outdated ( published in 2006 ).

Could you recommend me some book?
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Once you have read the Hilleglass book you should know enough to just use the Apple Developer documentation to learn what you need to know. It is of a very high standard in general I have found.
 
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robj

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Cromulent said:
Once you have read the Hilleglass book you should know enough to just use the Apple Developer documentation to learn what you need to know. It is of a very high standard in general I have found.
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You're right, finishing the book opens you a new world, and ADC Doc is very good, but I would like to have a book for "offline moments", like subway times and so on.

I'm downloading the ADC doc in PDF and reading it in my iphone. But, for now I prefer a printed book :)

I have searched in amazon, but I didn't find out anything interesting.
 
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robj said:
You're right, finishing the book opens you a new world, and ADC Doc is very good, but I would like to have a book for "offline moments", like subway times and so on.

I'm downloading the ADC doc in PDF and reading it in my iphone. But, for now I prefer a printed book :)

I have searched in amazon, but I didn't find out anything interesting.
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Other than printing off the PDFs I don't know of any books that I would consider worth it when compared to a more generalised book.

wrldwzrd89 said:
Not right now - I don't have the book with me. Sorry. :(
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Oki dokie :).
 
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kainjow

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I'm guessing it's Programming in Objective-C 2.0 LiveLessons Bundle although it's $44 on Amazon :confused:

This value-priced bundle contains both the bestselling book Mac/iPhone development book, Programming in Objective-C 2.0, and a complete video training course on the fundamentals of Objective-C, Programming in Objective-C 2.0 Live Lessons, Part I, with more than 8 hours of video training on DVD from author and trainer Stephen Kochan.
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foshizzle

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Oct 17, 2007
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I got a slew of them. Made an amazon.com wish list and sent it out to everyone.

Beginning Ruby (apress)
Agile Web Development with Rails (Pragmatic Bookshelf)
jQuery Cookbook (OReilly)
Beginning iPhone 3 Development (apress)
iPhone User interface Design Projects (apress)
Cocoa Touch for iPhone OS3 (Wiley)
Cocoa for Mac OS X (Hillegass)
iPhone Developer's cookbook (sadun)

I'm a CS/CE major. Really getting into Ruby on Rails web development while I'm in school, and that's my first priority. However, the iPhone/mac programming books are more for 'fun' projects for now.
 
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NeuralControl

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Cromulent said:
Once you have read the Hilleglass book you should know enough to just use the Apple Developer documentation to learn what you need to know. It is of a very high standard in general I have found.
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I really want to pick this book up soon. Do you feel beginners can get a lot out of this book, or do you need prior language knowledge before attempting this book?
 
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NeuralControl

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Thank you for the heads up.
Edit: I believe I am placing the order shortly for the Hilleglass book. Book stores sell if for $49.99, and I don't mind buying it online. Is $32 USD a fairly good price for the book?
 
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North Bronson

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Oct 31, 2007
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It took me a while to figure out exactly what I didn't like about the Hillegass text. I read Kochan's excellent texts (Programming in C and Programming in Objective-C) and didn't really learn from Hillegass's style the way I learned from Kochan's.

My issue is that Hillegass builds applications with Interface Builder from the very start. IB can be a wonderful tool, but for someone just stepping into OOP (like I was) using IB comes off as a little "hand-wavey". I think IB is a much better tool for people who have experience building UI by code.
 
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This is a bit of a strange response to your question, but here it goes. My response probably only makes sense for huge fans of Don Knuth.

I wasn't asking for any new computer science books this year (I already have dozens and dozens, probably 200+ books on CS, since I'm a professor that does research in analysis of algorithms)..... BUT I also buy the books on Knuth's own reading list:

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/retd.html

I already owned the first 14 of these books, but the last 3 of them were recently added, and I received them for Christmas this year. The Blasphemy and Blacklist books were novels, and the Travels of Ibn Battutah is a journal by a Muslim scholar (if anyone else is buying these books, be careful... do not confuse the Travels book with another one, called Travels with a Tangerine... you'll see that they are both by the same author).

I apologize for the unorthodox response, but I thought that people who know Knuth's work might be pleased to read this post.
 
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foshizzle said:
I got a slew of them. Made an amazon.com wish list and sent it out to everyone.

Beginning Ruby (apress)
Agile Web Development with Rails (Pragmatic Bookshelf)
jQuery Cookbook (OReilly)
Beginning iPhone 3 Development (apress)
iPhone User interface Design Projects (apress)
Cocoa Touch for iPhone OS3 (Wiley)
Cocoa for Mac OS X (Hillegass)
iPhone Developer's cookbook (sadun)

I'm a CS/CE major. Really getting into Ruby on Rails web development while I'm in school, and that's my first priority. However, the iPhone/mac programming books are more for 'fun' projects for now.
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That's a pretty big stack of books :). I hope you have strong bookshelves.

mward333 said:
This is a bit of a strange response to your question, but here it goes. My response probably only makes sense for huge fans of Don Knuth.

I wasn't asking for any new computer science books this year (I already have dozens and dozens, probably 200+ books on CS, since I'm a professor that does research in analysis of algorithms)..... BUT I also buy the books on Knuth's own reading list:

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/retd.html

I already owned the first 14 of these books, but the last 3 of them were recently added, and I received them for Christmas this year. The Blasphemy and Blacklist books were novels, and the Travels of Ibn Battutah is a journal by a Muslim scholar (if anyone else is buying these books, be careful... do not confuse the Travels book with another one, called Travels with a Tangerine... you'll see that they are both by the same author).

I apologize for the unorthodox response, but I thought that people who know Knuth's work might be pleased to read this post.
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I'd love to have the time to read other non-technical books but when I finally do get the chance I prefer reading some sci-fi by Iain M Banks or some fantasy novels.
 
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admanimal

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mward333 said:
This is a bit of a strange response to your question, but here it goes. My response probably only makes sense for huge fans of Don Knuth.

I wasn't asking for any new computer science books this year (I already have dozens and dozens, probably 200+ books on CS, since I'm a professor that does research in analysis of algorithms)..... BUT I also buy the books on Knuth's own reading list:

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/retd.html

I already owned the first 14 of these books, but the last 3 of them were recently added, and I received them for Christmas this year. The Blasphemy and Blacklist books were novels, and the Travels of Ibn Battutah is a journal by a Muslim scholar (if anyone else is buying these books, be careful... do not confuse the Travels book with another one, called Travels with a Tangerine... you'll see that they are both by the same author).

I apologize for the unorthodox response, but I thought that people who know Knuth's work might be pleased to read this post.
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I have had Life: A User's Manual for years and still haven't got around to reading it yet. I also have another book by Georges Perec called A Void, which is a full length novel written entirely without the letter e. Amazingly, he wrote it in French (also without the letter e) and then it was translated to English.
 
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skochan

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Apr 1, 2006
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Yeah, you can get the combo of my book and DVD (Part I) from Amazon for around $44, which I think is a pretty good deal considering the book alone sells for $30. (My publisher even suggested that those who already have the book can buy this bundle and turn around and sell the book on eBay!)

I finished a Part II DVD (covers Foundation and gives an intro to iPhone programming) a couple of months ago, but I don't think the publisher released that yet. In fact, I'm not even sure how they're going to sell that. :mad:

The DVD pretty much directly follows the book. It's basically me talking to myself in front of a computer (that took some getting used to), while using a combination of slides and program examples. Some people learn better through lecture and demonstration than from just reading a book. So there are just some more choices here for the Objective-C newbie.

Cheers,

Steve Kochan
 
wrldwzrd89

wrldwzrd89

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skochan said:
Yeah, you can get the combo of my book and DVD (Part I) from Amazon for around $44, which I think is a pretty good deal considering the book alone sells for $30. (My publisher even suggested that those who already have the book can buy this bundle and turn around and sell the book on eBay!)

I finished a Part II DVD (covers Foundation and gives an intro to iPhone programming) a couple of months ago, but I don't think the publisher released that yet. In fact, I'm not even sure how they're going to sell that. :mad:

The DVD pretty much directly follows the book. It's basically me talking to myself in front of a computer (that took some getting used to), while using a combination of slides and program examples.

Cheers,

Steve Kochan
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Sigh. I didn't even think to check Amazon... :eek: Thanks for your post, though. I appreciate it.
 
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