So what's next 2nd half 2015 ?

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Tig Bitties, May 4, 2015.

  1. Tig Bitties macrumors 68020

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    We are almost half way though 2015, and a lot of the big Android flagships have just been released the last couple of months. So what's next, and what are you excited about ?

    - OnePlus Two this Summer
    - Note 5 in September
    - iPhone 6S Plus in Sept / Oct
    - Nexus M ( 2015 ) in November

    I am a big fan of stock Android, and really looking forward to the next Nexus phone, hopefully it's a bit smaller like 5.5", rumors point to it running Android 5.2 "M" name. I've heard that LG may be back to make it, and also a cheaper version.

    OnePlus Two could be interesting, rumored to be QHD 5.5" display, a thumb print scanner, like the iPhone 6 and Galaxy S6, a higher end and nicer build quality.

    Opinions ?
     
  2. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    Pretty happy/content with my S6. Looking forward to see what the iPhone 6S brings to the table, but given Apple's trajectory, I don't think it'll steal me away. The S6 is overall that good.

    Nexus this year interests me too but I feel like I've so moved on from stock Android. Both Cyanogenmod and TouchWiz have features that make stock look bland in comparison (vanilla indeed). It's actually a real wonder why Google doesn't implement some of these features.

    Moto X this year sort of interests me too.

    Sony Xperia Z4 could be interesting, though I worry about Sony's future.

    I'm not going to bother getting excited about the OnePlus Two only because I know the invite system will be a disaster. Ugh.
     
  3. Fernandez21 macrumors 601

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    Looking forward to the Note 5 and iphone 6s, possibly nexus 7, but after using the GS6 I'm really looking forward to the Note.
     
  4. jamezr macrumors G3

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    Same here....really looking forward to the Note 5 and iphone 6s
     
  5. apolloa macrumors G3

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    Sony have updated their Z3 and called it a Z4, but that is only for China etc. They have a lot more planned for America and Europe like the new top range model for Europe and America plus the compact version of that.

    LG G4 and the rumoured mini version of the G4.

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    Oh they aren't going anywhere, they have improved a lot on their earnings thanks to the Playstation 4 and it's mobile camera modules, in fact they are so popular it is now being reported some OEM's won't be able to use them due to such high demand.
    Every single S6 and iPhone for instance uses a Sony module.

    http://pocketnow.com/2015/05/04/sony-smartphone-camera-shortage

    http://pocketnow.com/2015/04/29/sony-profits

    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...thanks-to-strong-ps4-and-camera-sensor-sales/
     
  6. Fanaticalism macrumors 6502a

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    +1

    World class camera
    Battery life in line with competitors
    Samsung like screen quality

    Game over.
     
  7. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    I don't know how anyone will compete with Samsung or apple really. Sony will have to really change their marketing (in that it needs to exist), and Motorola will have to improve on the shortcomings of the moto x (namely in the camera and battery life department). Will Motorola be able to give high tier specs while continuing their mid tier pricing?

    I think only lg has the resources to really complete this year. Especially if they get the next nexus as some are predicting.
     
  8. gotluck macrumors 603

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    I think Moto Sony or nexus are going to be the only things that do it for me

    Potentially iPhone 6S but I'd be waiting for the jailbreak
     
  9. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    Yeah, at this point, it's not just about the hardware needing to catch up, but the software does too.

    In order for iOS 9 to win me back, it's got to do more. Apple always takes small steps. Becoming very impatient. And word on the street is that iOS 9 will be about stability more than anything else.
     
  10. tbayrgs macrumors 603

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    Well, iOS 8 added more functionality than Apple has added to iOS in ages and the first few months were a bit bumpy so I welcome a focus on stability. The expectation for an annual OS update, on any of these platforms, is a bit ridiculous, IMO. Both iOS 8 and Lollipop have probably been the buggiest releases from their respective camps in ages---time to take a breath and slow down. Unfortunately, that approach doesn't sit well with investors.

    And not to say the iOS 8 couldn't use more improvements. I personally would love to see the ability to customize one's home screen--let's start with ditching the requirement that all icons must snap to the top of the screen and maybe add the ability to add some of the Today pull down 'widgets' to a home screen. Other changes I'd like to see off the top of my head--a 'clear all' button on the notification panel, the ability to customize what buttons appear on the Control Center, including the option to access settings directly, not just toggle on/off. Lastly, more developers need to implement extensions--it's been a slow rollout so far.

    Nothing on the Android front for the rest of the year has my interest, except maybe the next Moto X. Unfortunately, given their track record, I'm not optimistic that they will significantly address the shortcoming of the past few years (lackluster displays, avg battery life at best and pretty mediocre cameras). Surprisingly, I am intrigued about all of the changes being implemented on Windows 10. I'm also holding out hope that the iPad Pro includes everything rumors claim it will have (multi-window, force touch, a stylus with a digitizer)--that's what I'm saving my pennies for right now. ;)
     
  11. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    Yes, yes, and more yes. 100% would love to see all this. I've always argued that the ability to customize certain things on the software side is monumentally useful and important, and is far more than just about aesthetics. It's about functionality, too, which often gets overlooked or forgotten or, worse, downplayed. I mean, how many times have we heard the likes of Jrswizzle and his ilk saying because a certain way works for them (which is coincidentally always the Apple-way), they don't care or see the need for something to work another way? Too many.

    Being able to customize how one uses their phone is a daily effect; far beyond just aesthetics or icon packs. Default apps mean a different experience. Customizable quick settings or glance-able information means a faster experience. There are plenty more examples that defy the notion that customization is just about looks.


    I'm all for stability, too. I agree, iOS 8 was bug-filled. I couldn't believe what I was seeing and experiencing with my iPhone 6 at the time. And while I agree we're at a point where we can only add so much, I think that's more true for Android than it is for iOS. Android is a bit ahead of iOS in terms of functionality and features. Surely they can continue to add more (I still don't get why stock doesn't allow us to customize the quick settings pull down tray...), but it's really iOS that has the most room to grow and improve. The aforementioned things you posted you'd like to see would all be great. Full email attachments would be nice, too.

    In iOS 9, we'll probably see stability improvements, plus... improvements on camera software, Apple Watch compatibility and features, maybe more security to Apple Pay, better Touch ID software, better fitness and health features, etc. That all sounds dandy, but I do hope Apple adds more, and more freedom.

    Android... I'd like to finally see better RAM management, better battery management, and other small improvements. However, how this will translate to a TouchWiz update for the S6 is another story. And how long...!
     
  12. gotluck macrumors 603

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    I would love for iOS to get intents, or default actions, rather than the whole 'open in' deal currently. As well as the legendary, fabled file picker app / ios version of finder :p

    Agreed on the extensions, was very excited about the potential there.

    Regardless of any new features I will still wont be pleased unless jailbroken just because I'm weird like that ;)
     
  13. Cod3rror macrumors 68000

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    Moto G gen 3 - Because this is the most realistic candidate for my upgrade. If it comes with 2GB RAM, Snapdragon 615 and the same price, I'll upgrade.

    Note 5 - Really looking forward to Note 5, purely out of the technological point of view. I wonder how much more powerful is it going to be compared Note 4, I hope they improve the S-pen and make it have zero lag, if it's possible. TouchWiz should get even lighter and quicker than it is on the S6, while keeping some core functionality, such as dual window view. I wonder if they'll improve the camera. Note 4's camera is IMO, still the best out of all the current flagships. Finally, 4GB RAM, it must have 4GBs of RAM.

    Nexus - Interested in what Google will do with the next Nexus.

    iPhone 6S - Interested in possible new technologies, such as force touch, but I'm mostly "meh" about it.

    Xperia Z4 Compact - If it's the same powerhouse as its bigger brother, this should be a very cool phone.
     
  14. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    Think force touch will really come with the 6s? Or iPhone 7?
     
  15. tbayrgs macrumors 603

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    My guess would be the iPhone 7--just expecting implementation of new hardware would require an overall design change. That being said, I thought I recall reading that Apple could implement it with software--recognizing the change in touch footprint due to increased pressure (press harder, amount of fingertip touching the screen goes up, and vice versa). If that's the direction they go, we might see it earlier.
     
  16. Cnasty macrumors 68020

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    I am enjoying my Nexus 6 so much the only anticipated thing I am looking forward to is what they release this year for it.

    I will of course keep an eye on the 6S+ but nothing else device wise will steer me away from the N6 that I have seen as Stock Android is a must to be on this platform for me.
     
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    BlackBerry "Slider". Not sure if this year.

    But I care little about portrait.
     
  19. apolloa macrumors G3

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    Very easily, Apple and Samsung are not the best by an awefully long way, Apple has been hell bent on stuffing iOS 8 and in some circumstances iOS 7 full of bugs, and Samsung's market share and profits are tumbling plus it is going backwards with non removable battery's etc.

    LG was ranked as having the best smartphone, even Sony's Z3 has been rated higher then Apple or Samsung devices in some places. The competition is growing, the latest market share forcast shows that and Apple and Samsung should be worried.
     
  20. SchlepNT macrumors newbie

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    I'll be grabbing the Note 5. I really hope that Samsung finds a way to keep the LED flip cover around, but given that the Note 5 will more than likely be unibody, my days with the best case ever are probably limited.
     
  21. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    I hope that's true. I'd love to see increased competition. While I agree with you about Apple's shortcomings (been very vocal about what's lacking in both hardware and software), their branding is near unstoppable. And while Samsung's latest market share and profits reports aren't exactly glowing, are they really factoring in the S6/Edge success? I'd imagine as the year goes on, their reports will be be singing a different tune. I could be wrong though. Samsung's branding is also growing. I see commercials of the S6/Edge everywhere now. People are also talking about the new devices and are surprisingly well knowledged on what the S6 and Edge are about.

    I do hope LG does well as I think they're one of the few that have the resources and gravitas to challenge Apple/Samsung. Motorola and Sony I'm not as confident. Motorola was acquired by Lenova last year and it'll be interesting to see how they handle future devices and releases. Won't this year's Moto X be the first true device released under their watch? While the Moto X series is charming and so far offer a decent device, they haven't really been making much of an impact. At least it doesn't seem so to me.

    And while the Xperia Z3 (one of my favorite phones of last year; I came very close to getting one) has its strengths in battery life and waterproofing, Sony hasn't made much of a dent either in the competition. In fact, isn't Sony's mobile division in a bit of trouble? I know they're not giving up, but their latest still doesn't really induce confidence in buyers. And if they don't ever get their marketing going, they'll hardly make a dent either.

    And we all know how HTC is doing/looking with the M9 (they just reported their worse April results).

    Are there any other key players I'm missing? Don't get me wrong. I'm excited to see what Motorola and Sony and whoever else might bring to the table and hope they bring the heat.
     
  22. tbayrgs macrumors 603

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    People have been saying this for years now yet nobody seems to be able to capitalize on these supposed weaknesses.

    Like the operating systems or not, Apple and Samsung make what's consistently regarded as the best hardware available. Couple that with the marketing machines behind each as well as their distribution networks, means an uphill battle for these smaller OEMs.

    Sony's mobile division is on life support outside of pockets in Asia. I'll agree with epicrayban that LG is in the best position for prolonged success but it's still going to take some spectacular hardware to help make that happen.

    To be honest, if anyone is in a position to really make an impact in the mobile industry, I'd put my money and the Chinese OEMs, primarily Huawei and Xiaomi. They already have a huge presence in the largest untapped market in the planet and may have the cash and infrastructure in the coming years to really have some influence in the West.
     
  23. jamezr macrumors G3

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    What he said above. Write this down tbayrgs so you can pull out the "I predicted this would happen" quote! :)
     

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