So When Exactly Will They Push Out 2.0?

[skwoytek]

You guys sound like delusional idiots!
Apple HAS confirmed a July 11th release for 2.0. There's no speculating, when a press release says "... on July 11th" then that means it's going to be available starting on the 11th, if they meant earlier than July 11th they would say "... by July 11th". When they say on it means it's going to be released that day, in this case, July 11th, 2008.

Mark my words, they are not launching it earlier. It's so simple.

The complexity is in time zones... July 11th in which country?

1PM on July 11 in Sydney would be 8PM on July 10th in Cupertino.

An iTunes update will be required for iPhone 3G. Since the App Store is such a promoted iPhone 3G feature, it will most likely be up when the first iPhone 3G's go on sale.

Releasing the 2.0 update before or at the same time as the first iPhone 3Gs go on sale (Thursday night in the U.S.) is a great opportunity for Apple to allow everyone to get the App Store at the same time vs Cupertino and previous iPhone owners being over half a day late...

 

[swinneyn]

The complexity is in time zones... July 11th in which country?

1PM on July 11 in Sydney would be 8PM on July 10th in Cupertino.

An iTunes update will be required for iPhone 3G. Since the App Store is such a promoted iPhone 3G feature, it will most likely be up when the first iPhone 3G's go on sale.

Releasing the 2.0 update before or at the same time as the first iPhone 3Gs go on sale (Thursday night in the U.S.) is a great opportunity for Apple to allow everyone to get the App Store at the same time vs Cupertino and previous iPhone owners being over half a day late...

They wont be releasing the 2.0 software in Australia seeing as how the original iPhone wasn't available there... It'll just be preinstalled on the iPhone 3Gs. The countries we should be looking at are England, Germany, France, countries with the existing iPhone. So maybe Germany will get it first? Or will Apple wait to release it on time in Cupertino with no regards as to what time it is in other countries (A simultaneous Cupertino time Release)? So I agree with your last sentence.

 

[kyleaa]

They wont be releasing the 2.0 software in Australia seeing as how the original iPhone wasn't available there... It'll just be preinstalled on the iPhone 3Gs. The countries we should be looking at are England, Germany, France, countries with the existing iPhone. So maybe Germany will get it first? Or will Apple wait to release it on time in Cupertino with no regards as to what time it is in other countries (A simultaneous Cupertino time Release)? So I agree with your last sentence.

iTunes 7.7 is required to communicate with the 2.0 firmware - therefore, if they do not release it prior to the Australian launch, those people with 3g iPhones in Australia will not be able to sync their iPhone with their computer.

 

[swinneyn]

iTunes 7.7 is required to communicate with the 2.0 firmware - therefore, if they do not release it prior to the Australian launch, those people with 3g iPhones in Australia will not be able to sync their iPhone with their computer.

Yes, iTunes 7.7 can be released who cares when... Today, Tomorrow, Friday, It doesn't matter as long as it's in australia first. But it's a different story for the 2.0 firmware itself.

 

[dissdnt]

There's also going to be an AppleTV update probably on the same day as the rest. If you watch the MobileMe instructional video they show interface changes from .mac to mobileme for viewing pics etc.

 

[skwoytek]

Yes, iTunes 7.7 can be released who cares when... Today, Tomorrow, Friday, It doesn't matter as long as it's in australia first. But it's a different story for the 2.0 firmware itself.

My thought was that when Australian's get access to the 2.0 features, so will all iPhone owners.

Not that I'd have my feelings hurt, but it'll kind of suck to have bought an iPhone on June 29th, 2007 then be one of the last to get access to the App Store, Exchange support, improved mail, MobileMe, etc.

 

[dissdnt]

My thought was that when Australian's get access to the 2.0 features, so will all iPhone owners.

Not that I'd have my feelings hurt, but it'll kind of suck to have bought an iPhone on June 29th, 2007 then be one of the last to get access to the App Store, Exchange support, improved mail, MobileMe, etc.

You bought an iPhone on the 29th? If you bought it retail you have 30 days, you can just exchange it for a new one. But that's probably not your situation hehe.

 

[hierobryan]

My guess: WHO GIVES A F***?!

yeah, that's right, I'm cool

 

[superstrikertwo]

My guess: WHO GIVES A F***?!

yeah, that's right, I'm cool

Oh ya Bill Gates status right there.

 

[jmpmntwnty3]

Where the hell have you guys been? iPhone 2.0 has been out for weeks ... along with Mobile Me AND the iPhone 3G.

Get with the times!!!!

[end sarcasm]

 

[UltimateSyn]

Do you have the link to the APPLE press release? I searched and keep finding references to the AT&T releases. I will trust you if Apple actually said it but am still curious as to why they did not just say that when their web site still says coming soon where it could easily say July 11.

Sorry to be so suspicious regarding that point but I work for a company far bigger than Apple and we would never tell our resellers everthing about something like this. Even within the company only those who needed to know would know the real target date. If I fix a bug I can tell the submitter the release number they will see the fix in but I would get in big trouble if I associated an actual date with that number. As a developer I find out it shipped when I see the press release.

No need to be disrespectful to other posters. We are ALL guessing and hoping here. If you have real insider info you should probably not be posting unless you are just having fun with us.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/06/09iphone.html

iPhone 2.0 software will be available on July 11 as a free software update via iTunes® 7.7 or later for all iPhone customers.

8th paragraph.

 

[UltimateSyn]

The complexity is in time zones... July 11th in which country?

1PM on July 11 in Sydney would be 8PM on July 10th in Cupertino.

An iTunes update will be required for iPhone 3G. Since the App Store is such a promoted iPhone 3G feature, it will most likely be up when the first iPhone 3G's go on sale.

Releasing the 2.0 update before or at the same time as the first iPhone 3Gs go on sale (Thursday night in the U.S.) is a great opportunity for Apple to allow everyone to get the App Store at the same time vs Cupertino and previous iPhone owners being over half a day late...

In the U.S.
You know, that country where Apple's headquarters are located? The country Steve Jobs made the announcement in. Obviously when Steve names a date, he means in the U.S.

 

[UltimateSyn]

They wont be releasing the 2.0 software in Australia seeing as how the original iPhone wasn't available there... It'll just be preinstalled on the iPhone 3Gs. The countries we should be looking at are England, Germany, France, countries with the existing iPhone. So maybe Germany will get it first? Or will Apple wait to release it on time in Cupertino with no regards as to what time it is in other countries (A simultaneous Cupertino time Release)? So I agree with your last sentence.

Did you forget about the iPod touch? I believe they sell that in Australia.

Sorry for the triple-post.

 

[skwoytek]

You guys sound like delusional idiots!
Apple HAS confirmed a July 11th release for 2.0. There's no speculating, when a press release says "... on July 11th" then that means it's going to be available starting on the 11th, if they meant earlier than July 11th they would say "... by July 11th". When they say on it means it's going to be released that day, in this case, July 11th, 2008.

Mark my words, they are not launching it earlier. It's so simple.

As I mentioned previously, the complexity is in the time zones.

Vodaphone has announced that they are selling the iPhone at 12:01am on July 11th.

This equates to 5am on July 10th in Cupertino. Will the iPhone 3G experience be incomplete when they open those phones in New Zealand (No App Store, etc)? If not, are those in New Zealand getting those new 2.0 features (App Store, etc) 24 hours earlier than the U.S.?

I think 2.0 will be available earlier than July 11th and probably before the first iPhones are sold. Otherwise, someone in New Zealand or Australia will use the iPhone restore feature to capture the firmware and it will hit the internet before Apple can release it.

In the U.S.
You know, that country where Apple's headquarters are located? The country Steve Jobs made the announcement in. Obviously when Steve names a date, he means in the U.S.

Oh, so you mean that country where Apple's headquarters are located and the country Steve Jobs made the announcement in will be the last to have access to the 2.0 features since they have to wait for either the iPhone 3G or the firmware to release which according to you will be about 24 hours after the first people get it?


I'm not saying it's impossible that Apple would wait until the 11th. I just think that once the first people have the 2.0 software there's no reason for Apple to hold off until the 11th.

 

[walnuts]

I hate to be a pessimist, but its my guess that iPhone 2.0 update won't be released, possibly not even on July 11, no matter what time zone you are in. I agree with other posters that guess that iTunes will be released first without the update. I think it will be apple's priority to have everything run as smoothly as possible for those plunking down $200 or $300. Let's face it, those of us getting a free software upgrade are apple's last priority. Even a rumor that getting iphone 3g is difficult, or that apple is trouble keeping up with demand (which might discourage buyers, would be far worse than the grumblers whose freebie is coming a little late. The press release police aren't gonna pound down Steve's door if the software update comes in a few days late, and even then, if there are iPhones out there, running 3g and iPhone 2.0, then Steve is technically right, even if the update isn't out till later.

 

[kdog1176]

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Nonsense. The 2.0 firmware update will be out for everyone no later than 7/11.

 

[ChrisWilder07]

Hmm...?

I think that apple will release the 2.0 Software at 8AM 7/11, the same time that the iPhone 3G is released. or at midnight the day before

 

[ankushpatel]

thursday or friday

Ok, my opinion, thursday or friday, who cares, its just one day ,we have waited months since the preview im sure 1 more day is not going to make a difference, well not 2 me.

 

[bbeers]

reading is fun

You bought an iPhone on the 29th? If you bought it retail you have 30 days, you can just exchange it for a new one. But that's probably not your situation hehe.

he bought it on june 29th 2007 so it is over a year ago and can not be returned or exchanged. And also Apple's return policy is 14 days not 30.

 

[neiltc13]

I think you are all getting very confused here. No one is disputing that the software will be available on July 11th, but will that be July 11th Cupertino time or will it be July 11th when the first iPhone goes on sale at Vodafone's stores in New Zealand? They confirmed today that they will be doing a midnight launch at 3 of their stores, so if you need 7.7 to activate iPhone 3G then surely it will have to be available for those who buy an iPhone in New Zealand.

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