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frank33v

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I keep reading about the watch being on sale at best buy and target for $100 off but I don't see that online anywhere....is it only an in -store thing ?

Ready to buy but don't want to waste an extra $100.
 
You missed it.

B&H not only had them discounted, but no tax for most and open box items for up to $100 cheaper than that. Saw one for $180...

Wait for Apple to discount it at their next event.
 
They were holiday sales basically from every major retailer from November through January. You simply waited too long to decide and missed the window.
Update: Woot has refurbished models on sale today starting at $230.
 
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They were holiday sales basically from every major retailer from November through January. You simply waited too long to decide and missed the window.
Update: Woot has refurbished models on sale today starting at $230.

Actually, both Target and Best Buy resumed their $100 off sales last month. Unfortunately, OP, everything seems to be back to normal price again. Keep an eye out; they may have another sale.
 
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They'll have a sale before the new one is announced and another one around Mother's Day.
 
Paid $249 for my sport at Best Buy on Saturday, February 20. The next day the sal s had need so I lucked out. There was someone who posted that they we on Groupon although I got mine cheaper. Keep looking and good luck!
 
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B&H has launched one of the best Apple Watch discounts since Black Friday. Right now the Apple Authorized Reseller is taking $50 off Apple Watch Sport (aluminum casing) and $100 off Apple Watch (Stainless Steel casing). What’s more, every Apple Watch comes with a free $50 Gift Card so you can accessorize your new wearable with a different style band or charging dock. That’s an effective savings of up to $150. Today’s promotion includes 20 different models from $299 to $599.

We you tempted to buy anything else at B&H and consider the AW a loss leader?:apple:
 
We you tempted to buy anything else at B&H and consider the AW a loss leader?:apple:

That's beside the point. There are obviously people who'd only buy the AW when it's $100 off and the retailer will most certainly lose money or at least break even with those customers. However, those on the fence might end up buying a few random things while in the store when getting the AW, or they might consider something else other than the AW. That's the goal of the loss leader. The retailer wins some and loses some, but might succeed in bringing in more revenue that way. It's not a new concept.
 
That's beside the point. There are obviously people who'd only buy the AW when it's $100 off and the retailer will most certainly lose money or at least break even with those customers. However, those on the fence might end up buying a few random things while in the store when getting the AW, or they might consider something else other than the AW. That's the goal of the loss leader. The retailer wins some and loses some, but might succeed in bringing in more revenue that way. It's not a new concept.

Sorry but we do not agree. It is the exact point. You and I will not agree on this but I would bet that Apple is "helping" the retailers have this "sale" to move inventory. It is no secret that the AW did not sell quite a s many as was hoped.
 
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It is no secret that the AW did not sell quite a s many as was hoped.

What's the basis for this? Apple sold more AWs compared to the first generation iPhone and iPad at launch. It is quite unrealistic to expect the first generation AW to sell in as many numbers as the latest generation iPhone and iPad, especially given that it's not exactly "iPhone-free", and many pundits hold this unrealistic expectation.
 
We you tempted to buy anything else at B&H and consider the AW a loss leader?:apple:

Different thread. :) this was to answer about any sales and not a Best Buy.
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That's beside the point. There are obviously people who'd only buy the AW when it's $100 off and the retailer will most certainly lose money or at least break even with those customers. However, those on the fence might end up buying a few random things while in the store when getting the AW, or they might consider something else other than the AW. That's the goal of the loss leader. The retailer wins some and loses some, but might succeed in bringing in more revenue that way. It's not a new concept.
I'm horrible at Best Buy. If I go in there to buy something or check out something, I end up buying something. I'm the target audience for foot traffic.
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What's the basis for this? Apple sold more AWs compared to the first generation iPhone and iPad at launch. It is quite unrealistic to expect the first generation AW to sell in as many numbers as the latest generation iPhone and iPad, especially given that it's not exactly "iPhone-free", and many pundits hold this unrealistic expectation.
My gut says the Apple Watch or anyone's smart watch never sells more than an iPhone or Galaxy, etc. Phone free or not. Successful first gen? Estimated to have made Apple a few billion and rated number one searched item in 2015 Xmas season. People want it, interested in it. Sales of 11-15mm estimate says it did what the iPhone took 2-3 years to do when introducing a new market item.

We expect apple to release something and it sells 100mm in months but that can take 10 iterations of the "item" to reach that level.

The first iPhone didn't sell, all competitors were quoted saying it is a flop, niche, no threat to "us", etc. That was Ballmer and Microsoft, Motorola and Blackberry. Apple dropped the price 25-50% on the first iPhone within months.

Time will tell if the AW will be a huge success but never like the iPhone or Galaxy. 50mm second or third gen. 100mm by 5th gen all sound like goals.

Samsung sells way way way more smart phones than Apple but who is the successful company? The one that holds 95% of all profit... And shareholders like me.
 
Apple dropped the price 25-50% on the first iPhone within months.
Think it might have been because AT&T relented and decided to subsidize it with contracts?

Back on the AW: if it sells to "a measly 5%" of iPhone owners -- which was less than the takeup rate at work last I checked -- it's going to sell a LOT. There's an awful lot of iPhones out there.

Bigger picture -- if Samsung and Android Wear watches sell in similar proportions, the whole smartwatch category is going to be bigger than the Swiss (or even the Japanese watch brands) have feared.
 
What's the basis for this? Apple sold more AWs compared to the first generation iPhone and iPad at launch. It is quite unrealistic to expect the first generation AW to sell in as many numbers as the latest generation iPhone and iPad, especially given that it's not exactly "iPhone-free", and many pundits hold this unrealistic expectation.

Just the fact that "Tim is staying mum" on the watch sales is a good indicator. Apple giving incentives to discount the watch is another. Neither of us have the proof but I am still betting that the AW did not sell like Apple wanted it to do. It will not be a looser and will do OK in the long run.
 
Just the fact that "Tim is staying mum" on the watch sales is a good indicator. Apple giving incentives to discount the watch is another. Neither of us have the proof but I am still betting that the AW did not sell like Apple wanted it to do. It will not be a looser and will do OK in the long run.
An alternative is that Apple is damping the initial surge in demand for its hottest new product by simply putting the price up!

A high launch price followed by later discounts from 3rd parties (something Apple never sanctioned before now) would do the trick. We've seen that now with the watch ($100 off) and lately the iPad Pro ($75 - $150 off)

So, maybe the watch was "supposed" to start at $250, but Apple cleverly added $100 to throttle the initial demand to manageable levels?

It solves a lot of problems: Scalpers, eBay sellers, grey imports, disappointed customers, overworked factories and warehousing - all while improving profits.
 
An alternative is that Apple is damping the initial surge in demand for its hottest new product by simply putting the price up!

A high launch price followed by later discounts from 3rd parties (something Apple never sanctioned before now) would do the trick. We've seen that now with the watch ($100 off) and lately the iPad Pro ($75 - $150 off)

So, maybe the watch was "supposed" to start at $250, but Apple cleverly added $100 to throttle the initial demand to manageable levels?

It solves a lot of problems: Scalpers, eBay sellers, grey imports, disappointed customers, overworked factories and warehousing - all while improving profits.

That is some theory.:rolleyes:

No doubt there was a supply shortage. If you wanted space black you had to wait a long time.
 
My experience is electrical and mechanical engineering. I have no clue if the Apple Watch price drop is related to sales. Last year Apple Promised that they would not have another massive shortage on iPhones at the launch so they publicly came out saying they would have the most iPhones available at launch last fall. They had trouble getting the Apple Watch going at launch for several reasons - parts failing, bands, etc. Whatever it was, they eventually got rolling and maybe stuck with the promise of having more than initial demand.

I believe the price drop is normal and maybe some based on demand but the profit in each unit is so great, they can.

I think the new Galaxy S7 looks great and yet I am seeing sales of buy one get one free and a free pair of VR goggles. Does that mean the demand is terrible? NO! It hasn't even shipped until this week in the US right?

Maybe they are doing everything in their power to get apple users to switch? Maybe lowering prices is to get rid of inventory for a new model or to get people to buy and not switch to Samsung.
 
Just the fact that "Tim is staying mum" on the watch sales is a good indicator. Apple giving incentives to discount the watch is another. Neither of us have the proof but I am still betting that the AW did not sell like Apple wanted it to do. It will not be a looser and will do OK in the long run.

Their official reason for remaining mum is they didn't want to pass the info to their competitors, although I agree that sounds a bit suspicious. Apple isn't "giving" incentives to discount the watch; that's simply your own unsubstantiated theory. There have been a few discounts on iPhones, iPads, etc. at retailers such as Best Buy but it doesn't mean Apple is in it with them or they're not selling as well as anticipated.
 
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No, that didn't happen until the iPhone 3G. Apple simply overpriced the original iPhone but they didn't repeat this mistake with subsequent iDevices.

I'm afraid this is wrong. The truth being the exact opposite. The price has risen dramatically;

The original iPhone was £270
3G £349
3GS £449
4 & 4S both £499
5 £529
5S, 6 & 6S were all £539
 
I'm afraid this is wrong. The truth being the exact opposite. The price has risen dramatically;

The original iPhone was £270
3G £349
3GS £449
4 & 4S both £499
5 £529
5S, 6 & 6S were all £539

You're discussing the wrong country and year. We're talking about the original iPhone that wasn't subsidized by AT&T at launch in the United States. It received a price cut and there was an uproar about it from early adopters so Apple ended up giving them a credit.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_(1st_generation)
"At the same time, Apple significantly dropped the price of the 8 GB model (from $599 to $399, still requiring a 2-year contract with AT&T) while discontinuing the 4 GB model.[25] Apple sold the one millionth iPhone five days later, or 74 days after the release.[26] After receiving "hundreds of emails...upset" about the price drop, Apple gave store credit to early adopters.[27]"
 
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Their official reason for remaining mum is they didn't want to pass the info to their competitors, although I agree that sounds a bit suspicious. Apple isn't "giving" incentives to discount the watch; that's simply your own unsubstantiated theory. There have been a few discounts on iPhones, iPads, etc. at retailers such as Best Buy but it doesn't mean Apple is in it with them or they're not selling as well as anticipated.

The great thing is I can have my opinion and you can have yours. They are both just opinions as you know no more than I do on the subject. Hopefully sales will pick up this Holiday season!
 
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