so who's got a rMBP with even screen?

leftyMac

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I'm on the fence about getting a 2013 15 rMBP (the model with dGPU), but so many threads about a whole range of issues with retina display are popping up, and it got me worried.

I wouldn't mind if it's slightly tinted yellow, as is my 2011 MBP, which is evenly tinted compared to an LG external monitor I'm using. but some people are reporting uneven pinkish tint and greenish tint! WTF?

so I just want to hear from lucky ones who scored a rMBP without f*cked up retina display, just to feel out the reality.
 

uller6

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I do. Top of the line 15" late 2013. Purchased in the apple store. Samsung screen. As far as I'm concerned, perfect.
 

Munkypoo7

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I just, just picked mine up, new from my local Apple Store. rMBP 15", dGPU model, 512GB SSD. LG display, no image retention and the whites are pretty darned white. Extremely satisfied.

I went through 1 rMBP in store though and it had god-awful yellowing, to the point even the specialist there was somewhat stunned. The next one he brought out was perfectly white (even a bit more so than the floor model, so woohoo!). Mine :D

No creaking... really a flawless purchase imo. I couldn't be happier :)

Wrapped it in a full body skin and she's ready for anything I throw at her!
 

Steve Jobs.

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How does one go about testing for all the possible screen defects?

I got my brand new rMBP 13" and it's been fantastic so far. I haven't gone looking for specific problems but in my daily use it's been fantastic.

Any suggestions for things to check for?
 

kerrikins

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I did the image retention screen test and basically used my iPhone as a comparison point for the whites and left it at that... I'm happy.
 

Watabou

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15" here. Perfect on the first try. LG screen.

I think the display issue is blown up because of course in forums, you would see more people complain.
 

Bri in Mtl

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I'm sure you realize , like so many other things, you only hear/read about complaints vs folks posting about their satisfaction with their product.
I mean who goes to the auto service department to say how happy they are? lol.
PS. Happy with my screen.
 

Munkypoo7

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How does one go about testing for all the possible screen defects?

I got my brand new rMBP 13" and it's been fantastic so far. I haven't gone looking for specific problems but in my daily use it's been fantastic.

Any suggestions for things to check for?
This is what I did, this is by no method the "correct, foolproof way"...

For image retention I did the checkerboard test here: www.marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html
Yes, it's a 10 minute test, I took the time to chat up the specialist there and choose a case for my rMBP.

For yellowing I simply compared it to a floor model, my iPad and my Late '08 Macbook. This is an extremely subjective test, every display will have some sort of variance, so just find a display you're comfortable with. My Macbook was pretty perfect in the display department for my Photoshop work (mostly musings when I'm bored), so I used that as a guide as I did my iPad. Just bring a few devices you're happy with and compare :)

I also checked for trackpad area creaking by putting my ear to the trackpad area as I pushed gently down on it to see if it creaked.

Was it worth it? Yes.
Would I do it again? Yes.
Did I feel silly while doing all of these? A bit.

It was $2609 after student discount + case. I'm sorry but after dropping that sort of investment, I'd really like to be 100% satisfied.

Big suggestion that would help, try to pick an Apple store that isn't totally overrun with people, and try in the morning. You'll get the specialists in a better mood and not as stressed out from dealing with so many people.

Also, agreed with the general sentiment that forums seem to make a problem much bigger than it really is. Though to be fair, better to know what could be wrong vs going in blind and not having an idea of what's happening :\
 

iamfredrik

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15" with 750m. Perfect Samsung screen. Whites are so bright that I have to use f.lux to turn down the color temp a notch at night.
 

M5RahuL

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The 2012 15" (2.7, 16GB, 768GB SSD) rMBP I bought had a perfect screen, and so does the late 'haswell' 2013 model. And yes, I have to tone down the screen with f.lux at night !

No complaints at all. :)
 

~Achilles~

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I'm sure you realize , like so many other things, you only hear/read about complaints vs folks posting about their satisfaction with their product.
I mean who goes to the auto service department to say how happy they are? lol.
PS. Happy with my screen.
lol, actually in this forum it seems quite the opposite. When someone posts a problem they have, there's no shortage of people to come in and tell them how perfect their macbooks are :rolleyes: (not talking about this particular thread obviously).
 

maflynn

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My 2012 rMBP has not such issues, my screen is even. I qualify that statement and say I've not examined the screen to a high degree of detail that I may or may not notice it. Under normal usage, I've not noticed anything wrong with my screen. I don't go about examining each pixel or detail on the computer, but that's just me. :)
 

leftyMac

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Now I'm seeing some hope around here! Thanks everyone for sharing! Btw, if I understood correctly, most of you got the perfect rMBP without returning & exchanging, right?

I hope this will be the case for me as well.
 

uller6

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Yep, perfect out of the box. I was a bit scared, since I'd heard so much about the IR and color issues in the forums. I think a lot of people hear about the screen problems second hand and panic. So I opened the computer in store and did the IR test and also compared the color against the floor models.

Now, after taking the new rMBP home and comparing against everything else I have:

1. My old 2007 MBP actually has a yellower screen than my 2013 rMBP!
2. 2013 rMBP has a more even screen color than my iPad Mini, Cinema Display 27", 17" macbook pro 2011, Acer POS, Dell Ultrasharp 24", Dell Ultrasharp 27", Samsung TV, and my girlfriend's 2011 MBA. The rMBP is more uniform than every single other screen in my house.
 

brdeveloper

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Yep, perfect out of the box. I was a bit scared, since I'd heard so much about the IR and color issues in the forums. I think a lot of people hear about the screen problems second hand and panic. So I opened the computer in store and did the IR test and also compared the color against the floor models.

Now, after taking the new rMBP home and comparing against everything else I have:

1. My old 2007 MBP actually has a yellower screen than my 2013 rMBP!
2. 2013 rMBP has a more even screen color than my iPad Mini, Cinema Display 27", 17" macbook pro 2011, Acer POS, Dell Ultrasharp 24", Dell Ultrasharp 27", Samsung TV, and my girlfriend's 2011 MBA. The rMBP is more uniform than every single other screen in my house.
Yes, the uneven yellowing on iMacs and consumer displays like Dell and ACD ones are well-known. The difference is that those monitors are so big that the yellowing occupies a small portion of the screen, usually more visible at the borders. There is a large center area which colors are reasonable even (usually). On yellowish rMBPs, the yellowing reaches the center portion of the screen, that's why it's so distracting and prone to unsatisfied consumers.

We were not expecting an EIZO or NEC class display, but it should at least compete with low-end IPS displays like the LG Flatron IPS225.
 

mneblett

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There is a large center area which colors are reasonable even (usually). On yellowish rMBPs, the yellowing reaches the center portion of the screen, that's why it's so distracting and prone to unsatisfied consumers.

We were not expecting an EIZO or NEC class display, but it should at least compete with low-end IPS displays like the LG Flatron IPS225.
I trust that is not intended to be a "universal" statement about the rMBP's? My late '13 certainly does not suffer from such problems.

There's no question that some fraction of the rMBP's have had yellow issues, but it seems from the volume of complaints that they are more the exception than the rule.


And in response to the Q above, mine good screen was not a replacement unit; new unit purchased on release day.
 

JeffiJers

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early 13 15R Perfect Samsung screen.

(took apple 4times to get me a computer without faults, but they Did.)
 

eneisch

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Unfortunately evaluation of the display is highly subjective. In the yellow tint thread I've seen people post pics of their screen that look fine to me, only to have others comment that the screen is terrible. Some people have a more discerning eye than other so YMMV.

That being said the LG display on my 15" look OK to me. Screen tint looks even to me eye and whites are white and bright. The only time I see any flaw is on a black screen, in a dark room, with the brightness set to max, I see a slight pink/purple tint in the upper right corner. At normal brightness the tint is not noticeable at all. I decided that the screen was acceptable and have been happy with my purchase so far...
 

Serelus

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I'm on the fence about getting a 2013 15 rMBP (the model with dGPU), but so many threads about a whole range of issues with retina display are popping up, and it got me worried.

I wouldn't mind if it's slightly tinted yellow, as is my 2011 MBP, which is evenly tinted compared to an LG external monitor I'm using. but some people are reporting uneven pinkish tint and greenish tint! WTF?

so I just want to hear from lucky ones who scored a rMBP without f*cked up retina display, just to feel out the reality.
What you always need to realise is that people actually come here in general with issues, so that kind of leaves no room for people with positive statements. Most of the time people having these positive statements don't even come here to state them in the first place.

There's always going to be problems with a fixed percentage of machines being shipped, this is normal and apple will replace those accordingly.