So why no iMac touch?

Discussion in 'iMac' started by fusionid, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. arn macrumors god


    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    can't find the reference right now, but Jobs said something to the effect that they prototyped it and it was just uncomfortable using a touch screen on a screen like that. Holding up your arms, etc...

  2. theluggage macrumors 68040

    Jul 29, 2011
    I'm using a 27" display and habitually have it just about at arm's length away, so it would be very uncomfortable to use as a touchscreen.

    Maybe, with retina displays (that would stand closer viewing), you could re-think the way you used it - have the screen closer, and maybe flat on the desk. like a giant laptop.

    However, although touch screens a great for handhelds, I've never felt the need for one on a desktop or laptop, apart from a few niche uses (a Wacom-style stylus might be good for graphics work). I think the whole touchscreen push on PCs was part of Microsoft's failed Windows 8 experiment to use the same UI on tablet and touchscreen.
  3. arn macrumors god


    Staff Member

    Apr 9, 2001

    maybe it wasn't jobs

  4. bobr1952 macrumors 68020


    Jan 21, 2008
    Melbourne, FL
    Frankly, I would find a touch screen even on my MacBook to be cumbersome.
  5. TechZeke macrumors 68020


    Jul 29, 2012
    Rialto, CA
    I have an easy to show this doesn't work, especially something the size of the 27" iMac. Try going to a Best Buy and trying an HP TouchSmart AIO(or whatever they call it now) and see how long your arm lasts before falling off.
  6. Blujelly macrumors 65816


    Sep 2, 2012
    South East England
    think of the cleaning, the fingerprint marks! *dies*
  7. Old Muley macrumors 6502a

    Old Muley

    Jan 6, 2009
    Titletown USA
    The ergonomics of a touch screen iMac would suck; as would all the fingerprints.
  8. fusionid thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 11, 2015
    I see. Obviously the imac would have to be resigned completely.

    As far fetched as it may seem right now, ipads continue to grow in size.
  9. Dixie Flatline macrumors newbie

    Aug 9, 2010
  10. firedept macrumors 603


    Jul 8, 2011
    I use touch screens at work to operate equipment using Windows. It is impossible to keep clean, the screens show wear with time and sometimes you have to hit the screen 2-3 times to get it to respond. Would never want it for a Mac.
  11. boto macrumors 6502


    Jun 4, 2012
    This would be awesome for creative artists, but a 5k touchscreen isn't going to come cheap (even for the standard version).
  12. campyguy macrumors 68040

    Mar 21, 2014
    Portland / Seattle
    I'm not sure if there's a "5k" version yet, but I've tried the Troll Touch TrollCover and TrollFrame on "normal" iMacs and they were pretty slick - and since they're overlays, they're user-removable - touch screen solutions IMHO. I'm not a customer, but one of my fabricators has one in his shop, under a dust hood, and he seems pretty happy with it. The maker is in Weed, and I just like the name of that town... :p
  13. Fishrrman macrumors P6


    Feb 20, 2009
    This subject has "come and gone" several times over the past several years.

    Apple -has- a line of "touch devices".

    I suspect the iMac is never going to be one of them.
  14. loekf macrumors 6502a


    Mar 23, 2015
    Nijmegen, The Netherlands
    I don't hope so and I'm certainly not interested. A desktop with a touchscreen is crazy and is a recipe for RSI. Apple has a Magic Trackpad for people who want some touch control.
  15. vkd macrumors 6502a


    Sep 10, 2012
  16. Padaung macrumors 6502


    Jan 22, 2007
    And he also said that using a stylus with a tablet was 'yuk' ;)

    And here's a few more:

    Opinions can change, especially with advances in technology. Jobs was a genius, and part of that was he was willing to change his mind. His words should not be taken as gospel.

    I happen to like using a touchscreen Windows 10 device for certain tasks. Not all the time for sure, but it has its place. Everybody is different and have their own particular preferences.
  17. MistrSynistr macrumors 65816

    May 15, 2014
    I couldn't imagine anyone using a 21 to 27 inch screen as their desktop, smudging the crap out of it and being happy with it, coupled with tired arms just to do a few cute swipes and points here and there. Get a trackpad.
  18. phrehdd macrumors 68040


    Oct 25, 2008
    Imagine if you could rest your arm, not get tired from moving it all over the screen. Maybe make a small device that does the movement for you. Oh wait, we have touchpads, mouse and trackballs. Ooops my bad....silly me.
  19. Georgio macrumors 6502


    Apr 30, 2008
    Essex, UK
    Think gesture more than touch (Minority report stylee), so you would keep your hands close and natural and made small movements to control what's happening onscreen. Everything else is (reliably) voice controlled.
    This would be my vision for the iMac within 10 years, keyboards and mice are just so Victorian.
  20. joema2 macrumors 68000


    Sep 3, 2013
    I doubt most creative artists would use a touch screen on a desktop machine. They often use a Wacom tablet over a mouse because of the extra control, force touch and good ergonomics. So many prefer the digitizer tablet to a mouse, which itself is ergonomically much better than a touch screen for sustained work. Going to a touch screen would be two steps backward for production artistic work.

    There are a few cases where a touch screen would be OK but much more is involved than the screen itself. The entire existing OS X software and API system is designed for keyboard and mouse event handling. The existing OS X app catalog are all designed for that. All that would require redesign for touch to work properly, then a delay to get new touch-aware OS X apps out -- just to benefit a few edge cases.

    It's true you can crudely remap some touch events to keyboard and mouse actions, e.g, use touch on a Windows tablet to run a Win32 "desktop" app which wasn't designed for touch. However it is stopgap measure for an app which wasn't designed for that style of interaction and it does not present a refined user experience.
  21. henryonapple macrumors 6502

    Oct 29, 2012
    because apple doesn't want to lay their entire hand on the table in one sitting.
  22. samiwas macrumors 68000

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    If they offered an iMac with a touchscreen at a remotely reasonable price, I would buy one the day it came out. And I don't EVER buy computer equipment, iPhones, or anything when it comes out.

    The amount of productivity I would gain and options that would open up would be astounding. Mice, trackpads, even the magic trackpad, are not a replacement for a touchscreen.

    I work in entertainment lighting. Pretty much every major console these days is built around a touch interface. I've been using them for years and years. Both on the consoles themselves and using PC all-in-one systems. My arm never wore out from using a touchscreen too much. I never got extremely annoyed by fingerprints. I'm looking to build my own system right now, and want an iMac to be at the heart of it so that I can have two external monitors (which no PC all-in-one has to my knowledge), and so that I can boot in either PC or Mac. But, without buying expensive external hardware, that option is pretty much dead. So, it looks like I will have to use a PC and settle for one external.

    It honestly baffles me how many people are fighting against a touchscreen iMac. it often seems like they think that if you have a touchscreen, then you can't have a keyboard or a mouse, which is simply ludicrous. But, it often comes back to "if Apple says no, then that must be the way!"
  23. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
    Personally I don't want the compromise in UI for touch and cursor. Microsoft is finally getting it down with Windows 10. If OS X went through that I would just switch to Windows.
  24. samiwas macrumors 68000

    Aug 26, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    I don't care if they change OS X at all. It's been pretty much the same for 14 years as it is. I just want the ability to use touch on the screen in apps that are designed for it. And no, an iPad is not the answer.

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