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Hey now! I said I was just curious. I wasn't arguing or doubting you or anything. I just said I was curious as to what you thought it needed. Please don't write in such a condescending way! This is a friendly forum!

I am a studio owner, actually. I have had problems with Logic, sure, but I would hardly call it a disaster. I have also had problems with Digital Performer. I don't use Pro Tools, but I have played in sessions during which the engineer had problems with it. From what I have learned, and apparently what you have learned too, Logic is the best software for me.

It's his subjective disaster if so.. Logic serves my purpose pretty good actually, no crashing or stuff like that here. :)
 
Let's hope this improves Logic a bit, but I'm not holding my breath.

So where's a real Logic update, it's badly in need of one?

forget it... u gotta wait til they release the 64 gb ssd hd iphone
 
Yep I've only had 2 issues with Logic 8 and Leopard.
Right off the bat when Leo was released, Synthogy's Ivory would crash Logic 8 (had to take the component out). Then was updated and works fine.
Mon night Melodyne crashed Logic 8 after a vocal take in Leo.
Never had 8 crash in Tiger at all.
Now Ivory is running great, so just Melodyn has a slight problem maybe.
As well the ProKit update seems to have lowered my CPU usage a bit (MP 2.66)in Leo. But ya I'm really enjoying Logic 8 after tring Sonar and Cubase for 2 years!.
Later
 
Does the ProKit-update make Aperture work properly on Leopard? On my machine at least it usually refuses to start. It shows the splash-screen, and then nothing.

As it happens, I was actually able to fix this issue few days ago. But the thing is that I'm not sure that is it fixed for good, since Aperture does work occasionally. What happens is that I tried Dtracing Aperture with the "Instruments"-app Apple ships with Xcode. Needless to say I couldn't make heads or tails of it. But then I accidentally made it start Aperture over and over again. I think it went through that procedure maybe 20+ times before I managed to kill it. I then quit Instruments and tried starting Aperture... and it worked! Before running isntruments it did not work! Earlier the only way to get Aperture working again after it started acting up was to restart the machine.

Here's to hoping :)

The latest version of Aperture works great on Leopard
 
The latest version of Aperture works great on Leopard

I've had no major issues. I would like to see a fix so that at least the vaults work with Time Machine though.

Any idea if the prokit added any RAW support? not that I care, my 5D works fine with it but was just curious if it did.
 
The latest version of Aperture works great on Leopard

Are you saying that I'm not running the latest version for some reason :rolleyes:?

No it doesn't work. I'm running latest version (IIRC 1.5.6) with latest version of Leopard. And there are issues (it remains to be seen that did I accidentally fix that issue). Usually when I launch Aperture, I get the splash-screen, it then disappears and.... nothing happens. I can see an Aperture-process running in Activity Monitor, but that's it. I have to kill the process through AM. If I want to make it work, I have to reboot the machine. There are LOTS of similar complaints in Apple Discussion Boards!
 
One iPhoto fix

Does anyone know what this update actually updates?

Well, it fixed a bug that has been annoying me since the 7.1 update. Between that version and this, if you tried to "duplicate" a photo while in an event, it would duplicate the photo but leave you stranded in a blank "Import" screen. This update fixes that so after the photo is duplicated, it takes you right back to the event you were originally in.

Not a major bug, but it was really annoying for me since I spend 90% of my iPhoto time in the Events browsers.
 
I was at the Apple Store checking out the Air and was surprised to find that you couldn't use the new multi-touch gesture to rotate pictures in iPhoto.
I wonder if that was addressed?
I found that very odd.

<guessing>Possible Track Pad system Preference that wasn't enabled?</guessing>
 
Logic 8 you have to remember is a totally new app. It was totally re-written and does not have the old Emagic software attached to it, apart from the AU plugins.

Bull. They said the same thing about 7.1 and 7.2. And they'll say it again about 8.1. And 9.0. If it had none of the old Emagic code, why are many of the bugs in 7.x still there?

Every release has more new code and less old emagic code - is there any evidence that any given release is Totally Rewritten?

Most of the bugs are OS bugs, take Protools HD as an example as well.

OS bugs, what makes you think that? And using PTHD as an example, if the bugs are the OS's fault, why does PTHD have far fewer bugs? And it runs way better on 10.5 even though digi isn't officially supporting it yet.

10.5.2 will fix a lot of them, and a major update to Logic Pro 8 is around the corner.

I'd love for both of those to be true, but what reason do you have to believe that? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part? I heard that someone asked an apple/logic rep about 8.0.2 at the recent NAMM show and their response was surprise...they thought 8.0.1 was just fine and had no idea why they'd need to update it.

That "ugly and superfluous dark-grey interface" is easier on your eyes, takes up less real-estate, and I can't see what is "superfluous" about it. In fact, I'd like it so dark that you would use a warm yellowish or greenish font colour. That way it would be even easier on your eyes.

I don't know which app you're using, but Logic 8 wastes a HUGE amount of screen real estate. It got better in 8.0.1 but there's still a long way to go.

It's his subjective disaster if so.. Logic serves my purpose pretty good actually, no crashing or stuff like that here. :)

He's not the only one, look at the apple user board for Logic...many many people with problems. There are plenty of problems that are 100% repeatable, I guess you just haven't needed the features that are broken. Consider yourself lucky.
 
Bull. They said the same thing about 7.1 and 7.2. And they'll say it again about 8.1. And 9.0. If it had none of the old Emagic code, why are many of the bugs in 7.x still there?

Every release has more new code and less old emagic code - is there any evidence that any given release is Totally Rewritten?



OS bugs, what makes you think that? And using PTHD as an example, if the bugs are the OS's fault, why does PTHD have far fewer bugs? And it runs way better on 10.5 even though digi isn't officially supporting it yet.



I'd love for both of those to be true, but what reason do you have to believe that? Or is that just wishful thinking on your part? I heard that someone asked an apple/logic rep about 8.0.2 at the recent NAMM show and their response was surprise...they thought 8.0.1 was just fine and had no idea why they'd need to update it.



I don't know which app you're using, but Logic 8 wastes a HUGE amount of screen real estate. It got better in 8.0.1 but there's still a long way to go.



He's not the only one, look at the apple user board for Logic...many many people with problems. There are plenty of problems that are 100% repeatable, I guess you just haven't needed the features that are broken. Consider yourself lucky.

100% agree. PTHD is ROCK SOLID stable for me. Logic is a CPU whore and a buggy mess. I am soooooo SICK of these Apple fanatics that will blindly support anything Apple because it is Apple. This guy really needs to spend some time on the Apple discussion board under Logic and really read the people's posts screaming about all the issues. Don't get me wrong, I think Apple makes great products and are very innovative, but it never ceases to amaze me the amount of almost cultish mac fanatical people. I use a product because it works, not because it looks "pretty" and has a cult following. I really really wish people would STOP jumping to the defense of something when it is indeed broken. I love my son, but if he did something wrong I wouldn't defend him on it. I would still love him and support him but not defend his wrong doing...
 
"It is a joke"? It may have been a joke at one time,--now (in my opinion) I find it annoying. :rolleyes:

Not sure why you hot under the collar, I was explaining to a recent member what it meant. Some one posted the old and annoying joke and he did not know what it meant.
 
I don't know which app you're using, but Logic 8 wastes a HUGE amount of screen real estate. It got better in 8.0.1 but there's still a long way to go.

STP – when I'm not using Bias Deck and Peak. I went to have look at logic, and you're right about that one –*but since we were talking "pro apps", I made the mistake of thinking that STP was similar to Logic in that sense.
 

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STP – when I'm not using Bias Deck and Peak. I went to have look at logic, and you're right about that one –*but since we were talking "pro apps", I made the mistake of thinking that STP was similar to Logic in that sense.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any real consistency between the two apps, even though they're bundled together.
 
Installed ProKit 4.5 and QT 7.4.1 on MBPro running 10.5.1. No problems with FC Studio. And no problems with AE! Think Apple got it right this time. Now we need 10.5.2. And we need the nVidia 8800 so my MacPro CTO can ship!
 
...I would rather wait a few more weeks, if necessary, to get a working update. Leopard seems just fine to me. Haven't had any more crashes than I did with Tiger. I think people need to look at their system before totally blaming Apple. Maybe Leopard wasn't as completed as it could have been, but what OS can....



Actually, I still have quite a bit of glitchs with 10.5 (and I'm not talking about icons, Finder refresh, Mail, or Address book). Just yesterday, my Dashboard quit... I mean, I still could open it from the Dock but my F12 key stop functioning and the "little blue light" wasn't showing under the Dashboard icon in the Dock... No error messages in the log... That's weird...

Anyway, I like Leopard so far but I just can't wait for the update to irons out those bugs...
 
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