Some advantages of Face ID over Touch ID

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  1. iBug2 macrumors 68040

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    Let me say that I'm not a fan of the new Face ID. I like unlocking my phone while it is in my pocket and when I take it out, I'm already on home screen. The process will be slower now.

    But, there are some advantages of Face ID which I can think of from my daily routine:

    Can't use Touch ID when my hands are wet. Just doesn't work, period. So when I'm in the kitchen, or swimming etc, I revert to passcode.

    Can't use Touch ID when the phone is in my bike holder since you put the phone in a cover first. With Face ID I can unlock my phone when riding my bike.

    And finally, I can unlock with gloves now.

    The only question is, does Face ID work with sunglasses?

    If it does, I can't think of any occasion where it will not work from my daily routine.

    So, it'll be a slower "process" to unlock, but it'll work in more scenarios.
     
  2. Koobs macrumors 6502

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    You'll still need to take the gloves off to swipe up to get to home screen.
     
  3. unashamedgeek macrumors regular

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    I don't think it will work with sunglasses. They called out that your eyes have to look at it and every image of someone wearing glasses, was someone not wearing sunglasses.
     
  4. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    There are many gloves which can be used to control touchscreen devices.
     
  5. citivolus macrumors 6502a

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    What about the situation when you want Siri to read your new texts when your phone is locked. Would have been so nice for it to unlock while you are driving and you look at it while the phone is in your car holder. Now you need to take your hand off the wheel just to swipe up?
     
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    Starfyre macrumors 68030

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    There are plenty of advantages to TouchID which I can think of for my daily routine...

    Can't use FaceID when I am not looking straight at my phone.

    Probably can't use FaceID is very low light situations.

    Annoying to have to look straight at the phone when paying for stuff.

    Increased risk of stolen phones since thieves may just wait for the one victim to stare straight at their phone eliminating all focus in the surroundings...

    What if someones face gets injured? They cant easily unlock with their finger?

    Like I've said in the past, FaceID is complementary to TouchID.
     
  7. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    That's a bummer then. Still, for me, wet hands, gloves, screen protectors trump sunglasses. But if someone is wearing sunglasses 24/7, this phone is not for them.
     
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  9. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Your daily routine consists of thieves and facial scars? What about chopped hands then?

    And when you are using your phone, you do look at your phone. Even if you unlock without looking at it, you look at it after it's unlocked. If the unlocking is fast enough, which eventually will be, it might be totally seamless.
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  10. PhoneI macrumors 68000

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    they said it works fine with glasses
     
  11. Macalway macrumors 68030

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    I'm a 12/7 Sunglasses wearer. I can't go with the best this time. I want to, but WTF>

    The 8 looks good enough. Geesh.
     
  12. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I think they need to add some option to get to home screen by simply looking. Swiping up adds unnecessary time today. If it was iPhone 6, which did unlock much slower than 7, we'd be in the same ballpark, but my 7 unlocks instantly and I'm on home screen immediately.
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    Not sunglasses though. Unless the phone can see your eyes through the sunglass lens, doubt it'll work.
     
  13. BoxerGT2.5 macrumors 68000

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    I'm assuming Face ID won't work if I'm in my car wearing sun glasses, I'll have to take those off or use the number code?
     
  14. Squeak825 macrumors 6502

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    It is IR based -- ambient light shouldn't matter at all.
     
  15. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Even if you are not wearing sunglasses, you have to look at the phone, which you can't do if it's sitting in the console. Right now you can reach with your hand and unlock at least. So for drivers, touch ID is much better.
     
  16. betabeta macrumors 6502a

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    For me there is absolutely no advantage at all, and I actually like my bezels:D I just want the new sensors and cameras of the X.
     
  17. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    one thing i like:

    you can set it to hide the content of message alerts and it will show them as soon as it recognizes your face.

    i just hate to have my phone laying around and people reading my messages. this is nice.
     
  18. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    To be honest, I'd say the new sensors in the X are put to better use for animated emojis than unlocking the phone. I wish they somehow kept touch ID under the screen. I'd use Face ID when touch ID doesn't work, and the rest of the time I'd continue with touch ID.
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    Can't you do that today?
     
  19. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    maybe if you put your finger on it? never tried. but it seems easier to just look at it.
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    oh only works with imessage anyway... never mind, it's useless to me then.
     
  20. marty1980 macrumors 6502

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    It helps a bit that you have to be "paying attention" to the screen in order to unlock an X. I think Apple's idea is "reads your mind."

    So if for some reason a cop wants you to unlock your phone and you refuse, it might be more difficult for them to just get you to look at your phone and write in the report that it was unlocked when they took position of it.

    I really would have liked TouchID in the power button or to use the Apple logo on the back (yes, I'd settle for the back of the phone). Because if I use FaceID and it just doesn't work the way I want it to, then my only fallback is passcode. Which is fine, but that seems like a major step backward.

    Still going to give the X a try because return policies have worked in the past and there's always the holy-crap-that's-a-basic-update-iPhone 8 Plus. I'd be curious if Apple is done with TouchID (outside of a few more years while iPads switch over and old models fall off the low end) or if Apple will continue to figure out under-the-screen readers. Likely TouchID will come back when the entire screen is sensitive enough to read up to your full hand (if you have small hands like...). They will call this some new brand name they feel suits it, but it won't be TouchID as it was/is. Seriously, though, I think they're done with it for a while now as they try to prove FaceID and the new iOS UI works...
     
  21. iBug2 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I don't think they are done with it. I'm hoping for its return eventually. But it won't work the way we think it will. If it unlocks whenever we place our finger on any part of the screen, we'll be unlocking the phone by mistake many times. It has to be a specific location of the screen, but how would that work? Try to find the location?

    Or maybe force touch with finger on any location might work.
     
  22. Patriks7 macrumors 65816

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    If that's the case, I think that might be an instant no buy for me. I have sensitive eyes and wear sunglasses even during the winter very often.
     
  23. yegon macrumors 68030

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    I hope there’s an option to bypass the lock/notification screen entirely with Face ID, otherwise I do actually consider it a step back from raise to wake, thumb rested on home button.
     
  24. MacBreezy macrumors regular

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    If they put TouchID on this bad boy there wouldn't be a need to upgrade next year when they do add it. FaceID sucks.
     
  25. Starfyre macrumors 68030

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    You know, that is a very Apple way of thinking. Purposefully omit TouchID, throw in everything but that... so people have a reason to upgrade next year. That is evil.
     

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