Some advantages of Face ID over Touch ID

[Shirasaki]

Not a fan of this face Id thing.

Plus, this is how nowadays technology involves: intentionally break working solutions with some half-baked solutions, claiming they are better, especially whatever working solutions they break are proven working super great overtime.

I don’t know how this face ID will pan out in the wild but I doubt it will work well. Apple is such a resourceful company. It should, no, it must have something done flawlessly if that is what they want.

 

[saltd]

I don’t think Touch ID is going to return next year. It’s likely that it’s as gone as the headphone jack going forward. Apple has decided that Face ID is the next “big idea”, and I don’t see them eating crow and backtracking to please a customer base that is going to buy the iPhone regardless. They’ll push forward with Face ID until it actually works very well(probably next generation-similar to Touch ID).

That possibly being the case, I think we’re probably just going to have to get used to it or jump ship eventually.

A lot of this negativity is a knee-jerk reaction to the delayed release of the X. I’m feeling it myself as well

 

[unashamedgeek]

That's a bummer then. Still, for me, wet hands, gloves, screen protectors trump sunglasses. But if someone is wearing sunglasses 24/7, this phone is not for them.

I don't wear them 24/7, but I wear them probably 95% of the time that I'm outdoors or in my car. At least I wear sunglasses more often than I have wet hands or gloves on. I currently have my phone mounted on my dash and can unlock that with my thumb, but it wouldn't work with my sunglasses on. I'd also likely have to re position myself to more directly in front of the phone. Like most things it will work well for some and not so well for others.

 

[aronson]

And when you are using your phone, you do look at your phone. Even if you unlock without looking at it, you look at it after it's unlocked.

Not true. I look at my phone without lifting it from the table a lot.

If the unlocking is fast enough, which eventually will be, it might be totally seamless.

"If"... "eventually"... "might"...

 

[bushman4]

it depends on the Brsnd of sunglasses and the type. An example would be some RayBan Polarized sunglasses not working with Face ID
But it depends on the color of the glass and the light that your in so there’s really no answer

 

[44267547]

it depends on the Brsnd of sunglasses and the type. An example would be some RayBan Polarized sunglasses not working with Face ID
But it depends on the color of the glass and the light that your in so there’s really no answer

Polarization doesn’t affect Face ID and is not the issue. Lenses have a different amount of infrared filtration that is the culprit to blocking the sensors. There are some lenses coating that block IR. Polarization and Infared are two different things. Correlation means light waves are given a change of direction.

 

[Falhófnir]

Also, polarization doesn’t affect Face ID. Lenses have a different amount of infrared filtration that is the culprit to blocking the sensors. There are some lenses coating that block IR. Polarization and Infared are two different things.

So basically any sunglasses worth their salt would render it unusable?

 

[44267547]

So basically any sunglasses worth their salt would render it unusable?

The issue is specific IR coatings on the lenses, not polarization itself. Polarization and IR are two different things. Polarization are light waves given a change of direction.

Craig Federighi explains:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/15/i...answers-some-burning-questions-about-face-id/

“It turns out that polarization isn’t the issue” I have a set of polarized sunglasses that work just fine with Face ID. What it is is that different lenses have a different amount of infrared filtration. Most let enough IR through that through most lenses your eyes are visible to IR even if they’re not visible to the human eye,” says Federighi. “There are some lenses whose coatings block IR. In those cases the customer can just use a passcode or take them off. “

 

[jbizzybeetle]

I applaud FaceID, which always works for me, compared to TouchID, which regularly failed me.

FaceID Works fine outdoors with my eyeglasses using Transitions lenses switching to sunglass mode. Not the polarized version of Transitions.

I also have the “bluish” screen coating that protects against exposure to computer glare.

 

[Newtons Apple]

I went back and forth with the 8+ and X but when Winter hit and my fingers got very dry the touchID would not work unless I licked them first. The X won the battle and I sold the 8+.

FaceID works so well I forget it is even working. Loving the X!

 

[BlueGoldAce]

I couldn't go back to touchID after use FaceID.

Both are great...but I am molecular biologist. My hands are in nitrile gloves 90% of my day, which do not work with finger print scanners, and are problematic with quickly inputting your passcode.

Face ID solved that. Plus I live in a cold climate, so all the better during the winter months.

Yes, occansionally, it doesn't work. Whether it is random, or when I am laying sideways in bed...but touchid failed me too, based on the situation. So for myself, FaceID is one of my favorite parts of the X.

***Honestly, this is the first iphone in a while that I won't be tempted/jumping ship from to spend time with a new android (Galaxy, Pixel, whatever) before coming back for the following iphone release. I am happy to stay with this phone. Part of that is getting older/busier...but the iPhone X play a role in that too. It is a very enoyable device to use.

 

[Tom G.]

I really prefer Face ID over Touch ID for a two reasons.

1. It works more reliably, especially with gloves on in the winter. I have gloves that allow me to work the phone once it is unlocked, but they, of course, do not allow Touch ID to work.

2. Once the phone is open and I want to open a secure app such as my bank app to see my checking account or 1 Password, I can do this more securely with one hand using Face ID than with Touch ID where, in order to get your thumb or finger on the Home Button, you have to hold the iPhone precariously by its lower third or so.

P.S. I have 2 different pair of sunglasses, (one pair are my safety glasses from work and they are polarized) and Face ID works with them both. The only thing that gives it grief is when on really cold sunny days when I wear both sunglasses and a Balaclava. Too much of my face is covered up.

 

[44267547]

I really prefer Face ID over Touch ID for a two reasons.

1. It works more reliably, especially with gloves on in the winter. I have gloves that allow me to work the phone once it is unlocked, but they, of course, do not allow Touch ID to work.

2. Once the phone is open and I want to open a secure app such as my bank app to see my checking account or 1 Password, I can do this more securely with one hand using Face ID than with Touch ID where, in order to get your thumb or finger on the Home Button, you have to hold the iPhone precariously by its lower third or so.

P.S. I have 2 different pair of sunglasses, (one pair are my safety glasses from work and they are polarized) and Face ID works with them both. The only thing that gives it grief is when on really cold sunny days when I wear both sunglasses and a Balaclava. Too much of my face is covered up.

I agree where I like face ID is that if you wearing gloves, that is a nice convenience and even wearing sunglasses as well. I think touch ID became very reliable, but ultimately Face ID serves it’s purpose for the future. I look forward to see how Apple improves Face ID and in what specific areas.

 

[BugeyeSTI]

I work with my hands so touch id never worked well or reliably (1st or 2nd gen). I had 70-80% success even registering finger prints multiple times or more than one finger. Face id has eliminated having to rely on fingerprints to unlock my phone so for me, big advantage.

 

[Technarchy]

Face ID is more of a pain in the ass. It works well under most conditions but I have to enter a passcode with Face ID way more often than Touch ID because it needs to see your face at the right angle to work.

Touch ID was about as natural as just picking up the phone most of the time.

 

[44267547]

Face ID is more of a pain in the ass. It works well under most conditions but I have to enter a passcode with Face ID way more often than Touch ID because it needs to see your face at the right angle to work.

Touch ID was about as natural as just picking up the phone most of the time.

On the contrary, Touch ID on the iPhone 8 is much more streamlined from when it was when It was first introduced on the 5s. Similarly how Face ID will likely be more streamlined three generations of iPhones from now compared to where it is currently. I think that’s the nature and evolution of technology, it needs to mature through software and hardware.

 

[cynics]

I work with my hands and my right hand thumb can’t even register TouchID devices. Being right handed this is very annoying for me, since I have to slide the phone around to use my index finger. While I wouldn’t mind both (for those that prefer TouchID) FaceID will be a welcome change for me.

 

[44267547]

I work with my hands and my right hand thumb can’t even register TouchID devices. Being right handed this is very annoying for me, since I have to slide the phone around to use my index finger. While I wouldn’t mind both (for those that prefer TouchID) FaceID will be a welcome change for me.

The only drawback I don’t like about Face ID, is that the phone does have to be a specific angle for it to register your face to unlock the phone. If It’s laying flat or when your laying down is the majority of complaints from what I have read.

 

[cynics]

The only drawback I don’t like about Face ID, is that the phone does have to be a specific angle for it to register your face to unlock the phone. If It’s laying flat or when your laying down is the majority of complaints from what I have read.

Unfortunately I’ve only had the opportunity to see friends use it. While it seemed really cool and surprisingly fast I haven’t had the ability to discover its nuances.

Is this angle you describe outside the range of the setup process? Could you angle your face a bit further during setup? I honestly don’t know.

Again I’m not opposed to both but I personally would likely end up disabling TouchID.

 

[KUKitch]

Unfortunately I’ve only had the opportunity to see friends use it. While it seemed really cool and surprisingly fast I haven’t had the ability to discover its nuances.

Is this angle you describe outside the range of the setup process? Could you angle your face a bit further during setup? I honestly don’t know.

Again I’m not opposed to both but I personally would likely end up disabling TouchID.

So I set up my FaceID with a straight-on view and then one angled upward, and I can unlock mine when it's lying flat on a counter and I'm not directly over it - seems if the camera can see me, it can identify and unlock... haven't noticed trouble with lying down in bed either, maybe I've been lucky but it's worked rather well *knocks on wood* to this point.