Some AT&T iPhones Displaying Misleading '5GE' Icon in iOS 12.2 Beta 2 [Updated]

Discussion in ' News Discussion' started by MacRumors, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. GoodWheaties macrumors 6502a


    Jul 8, 2015
    5G runs on the exact same frequencies as LTE. It also can run on millimeter band which literally CANNOT penetrate your body. Where is the danger? The only thing you need to worry about is wattage, and that doesn’t come anywhere near dangerous in cellphones.
  2. Techwatcher macrumors regular


    Sep 21, 2013
    Lol @ people crying about this. They explained what 5G E means. Sure its not real 5G, but is this really something for you guys to get worked up over? Relax.
  3. JuBe macrumors member

    May 28, 2009
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    You’ve got some missed calls.
  4. imlynxy macrumors 65816

    Mar 8, 2012
    cannot agree with you more.
    Some of them are nervous if they get free Taco tomorrow LOL
  5. KPOM macrumors G5

    Oct 23, 2010
    They should call it LTE-A and not imply it is 5G.
  6. UnusedLoginID macrumors member

    Feb 28, 2012
    And it took you… what… like 50 years to figure that out?
  7. ksec macrumors 6502a

    Dec 23, 2015
    Only the XS, the only iPhone at the moment with 4x4 Antenna.
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    Because there is a clearly defined LTE-A Spec, which is 3GPP Rel 12. What AT&T is doing here are 3GPP Rel 14, What is called 4.9G / Pre 5G or LTE-A Pro.
  8. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    It's nothing earth shattering or anything, but it's mislabeling of things for marketing purposes that then messes up the actual labeling and understanding of the real things. It messes things up when people compare details or refer to them by name and can mean different things.
  9. ksec macrumors 6502a

    Dec 23, 2015
    This. Let's be fair this time they didn't name it 5G like they did in 4G's days. 5G E is what previously called Pre 5G. And unlike the HSPA+ 3.9G, 5G E actually brings quite a few benefits to the network, much more so than HSPA to HSPA+.
    You can pretty much guarantee all the 5G E Cell tower are capable of Stage 1 5G with Software upgrade, not the same as the HSPA to LTE era as it requires new Hardware.
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    It depends. I mean there are many places on earth where people could get triple digit LTE speed even without 5G E / LTE-A Pro / 3GPP Rel 13/14 ( Which includes LAA ). One of the reply above were showing ~170Mbps on LTE Network. My highest record was ~750Mbps on a new Galaxy. Highest on iPhone XS was only ~500Mbps. Still, you don't really need that much speed anyway.
  10. HacKage macrumors 6502

    May 14, 2010
    The UK and EU have many faults, but I can't imagine this level of deception being allowed at all over here. It would be shut down instantly.
  11. Statusnone88 macrumors 65832


    Jun 19, 2010
    I’m actually up in Altamonte Springs, so I’m guessing that we aren’t part of the “Orlando” market. Thanks for the info.
  12. Bearxor macrumors 6502a

    Jun 7, 2007
    If need to go back and look it up but I’m almost positive AT&T branded HSPA+ 21Mbps as 4G several months before T-Mobile did the same with its HSPA+ 42Mbps network.
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    The XS and XS Max.

    I know the XS devices have 4x4 MIMO.

    The X/8/8+/XR are 2x2.
  13. remc25 macrumors newbie

    Feb 5, 2019
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    Extremely fast

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  14. AlphaGuitarist macrumors 6502a


    Nov 12, 2014
  15. KPandian1 macrumors 65816

    Oct 22, 2013
    Give AT&T a break! They are a major industry leading company that won't deliberately tell lies to their clients or the nation.

  16. rjbruce macrumors regular

    Jan 7, 2011
    St. Louis, MO
  17. deannnnn macrumors 68000


    Jun 4, 2007
    New York City & South Florida
    It drives me crazy that they're allowed to get away with this nonsense. It's AT&T's fault that we have to call it "LTE" instead of "4G" in the first place when they pulled this same BS years ago.
  18. bluespark macrumors 68000

    Jul 11, 2009
    New York
    Companies have no idea how much goodwill they lose with stuff like this. I was considering switching to AT&T from Verizon and the only message that this sends to me is that AT&T is a shady company that's willing to mislead its customers.
  19. manojonline1238 macrumors newbie

    Jan 29, 2011
    AT&T might be good for the shareholders but they are hands down the worst consumer company. If it was not for T-mobile, AT&T would be charging $200 per month for single line and allow you to use only 5 GB of data at a speed of 2 MBPS. International roaming - don't even think about it, it might cost you a limb!
  20. KPandian1 macrumors 65816

    Oct 22, 2013
    A major corporation lies blatantly to the country, then gives a lame PR BS explanation. We are supposed to relax and let them 'splain it away.

    Public figures are not supposed to be able to get away with such nonsense.

    Nothing to be relaxed about - 5G is a major step. It will not be universally available in the USA even in another five years; the infrastructure is too expensive.
  21. Laird Knox macrumors 68000

    Jun 18, 2010
  22. thawk9455 macrumors newbie

    May 2, 2013
    If they want customers to know they are on a different network setup why not call it what it is, 4G E. It is another evolution of their 4G network. Hey AT&T, see how easy it is to be honest and still do what you want...
  23. Nanotyrns macrumors 65816


    Sep 16, 2012
    Ha! I'd forgotten we did that. I changed mine to the old rainbow Apple icon.

    Good times.
  24. mcdj macrumors G3


    Jul 10, 2007
    The E stands for “Eeeeet's not so ready!”, spoken with a vaguely Italian accent.
  25. gr8sho macrumors newbie

    Aug 31, 2008
    Very interesting. My son’s GS8 is already getting the indicator whereas my newer X cannot. I can already see a proper 5G iPhone being at least 2 years away...
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    Why? This helps Apple just as much to give their 2018 phone designs more relevance and reason to buy.

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