Some clues as to what is causing the signal issue

[Slip Jigs]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but yes you do. EVERYONE has the issue. Some people just haven't been to an area where they notice it yet... Many people who originally posted to say there phone was fine are now posting saying that they went somewhere new and there phone started playing up.

There are no "good" and "bad" batches of iPhone 4s. In many locations, they are ALL bad.

No-one has yet been able to provide any evidence of 2 IP4s behaving differently (1 with the problem, 1 without) in the same location. They will either all exhibit the issue, or all be fine, in any particular place.

And you know this how? You've personally tested 1.7 million phones, or even 1% in different situations?

It's these kinds of unsupported statements that do nothing but muddy the waters and create more confusion than there already is.

 

[BadMoon]

Dude.... lots of people a hell of a lot smarter than you (and your friend) already know what the "issues" are and what causes it/them. IF you and your friend are such masters in your field, I'm sure apple would of consulted with you guys before releasing their final design. Did you get a call?

Man I'm new to this board. However I have quickly learned that if there is ever an ass hole shortage in my life I may be able to find more then a few here.

 

[dmelgar]

And you know this how? You've personally tested 1.7 million phones, or even 1% in different situations?

It's these kinds of unsupported statements that do nothing but muddy the waters and create more confusion than there already is.

There's a thread opened for days asking for someone to show two iPhone 4s in the location, one showing the issue and the other not.

For days people keep posting that they don't have the issue, totally missing the point of the thread. NO ONE has been able to produce a video showing a working and non-working iPhone 4 in the same location at the same time.
No one.

That is the best proof yet that every phone has the problem and its simply a matter of location.
There have been many cases of people who didn't think they had the problem, go somewhere else where they do see the problem.

 

[dmelgar]

The testing that people have done rules that out (i.e. by testing locations where you can tell what frequency the signals being received are).

Some networks with the iPhone 4 only use one frequency, so they're going to have to sort that out or those carriers aren't going to be happy.

How can you find out what frequency is being used by the phone? Is there some debug menu or something? Or are folks saying that based on maps on the web. The web based maps I've seen do not come from the cell phone companies and can be inaccurate.

 

[Daveoc64]

How can you find out what frequency is being used by the phone? Is there some debug menu or something? Or are folks saying that based on maps on the web. The web based maps I've seen do not come from the cell phone companies and can be inaccurate.

You can't tell directly from the phone, but there are ways to check reliably using another device.

 

[JML42691]

Fantastic reply. Well thought out, reasoned and sober. Likely lost on the person for which it was intended however.

Agreed, very well written post but sadly it will probably not get the response it deserves, from its target at least.