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Some Details on First Mac OS X 10.6.1 Seed (Build 10B503)

SL problem when copying files

A problem occurred in SL last night that I have not seen since the original release of Leopard. I was *copying* photos (about 150 of them) from an SD card to my desktop and in the middle of the copy session I got an error saying that one of the files was in use. It was however not in use by any application. The copy process stopped after that. I was able to copy the file over if I simply copied just that file. The same thing happened later when copying another set of photos from my desktop to my NAS.

Like I said I saw the exact same thing in the .0 release of Leopard and I'm not sure how this bug got back into the code base.

Anyone else seen this?
 
jaw04005 said:
Repairing permissions doesn't help, and your suggestion to drag Safari into the Dock before launching it doesn't work either as it just disappears before you have time to launch it.

I think this bug is related to MobileMe's dock syncing between 10.5 and 10.6 Macs because it's screwing them up also. However, you can still put Safari in the Dock on my other 10.5 Macs.
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When you launch it, and it's in the dock, can you right-click and select "Options - Keep in dock"?
 
Darth.Titan said:
Watch the video capture he posted. He did that. I believe his issues are related to MobileMe's Dock syncing.
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Turning off MobileMe sync still causes the same problem. I finally just put an alias to Safari on the desktop. I'll stay with that for the time being. Something is screwed up for sure.
 
otis123 said:
YES! the sierra wireless modems is because of me i know it! i reported 3 kernel panics because of that stupid thing!!!! woohoo!
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Were you getting them when removing the modem?
I have had that happen before SL but hopefully it gets fixed!
 
BongoBanger said:
Neither Snow Leopard or Windows 7 are service packs. I wish people would let that go. They're optimisations and rebuilds of the existing code - with a good few new things put in - as opposed to extensions of the existing code which is what an SP is.
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This should be posted at the beginning of every Snow Leopard vs Win 7 thread. Both are awesome OS's.

ANYWAY, let's try to stay on topic. 10.6.1 is seeded!
 
Not trouble free

So far this upgrade has been a miserable experience for me, nothing like the 10.4 to 10.5 transition.

I am really surprised by this after hearing for so long that Snow Leopard was focusing on performance improvements and shouldn't be introducing many new bugs.

I use my Mac for work, and upgrading last weekend in the middle of a project deadline was a stupid idea. Here's a small list of things that broke:

- F5 SSL VPN plugin stopped working in Safari
- MySQL server binary stopped working. Had to rebuild from sources.
- Developer tools are removed by install. After reinstalling from SL disk, some things are missing, like git. Had to build from sources.
- New bug: About once a day the menu bar will freeze and go spinning beachball when I mouseover. I don't know what process to kill for this, it's not Dock or Finder, so I've had to reboot. Spotlight has to re-index after rebooting in this condition.

Finding new things every day. I've never seen an upgrade just totally trash everything I was working on. I haven't even tried messing with the iPhone SDK and provisioning profiles after this upgrade and XCode re-install but I shudder to think what I'm going to find there.
 
rlmccormick said:
A problem occurred in SL last night that I have not seen since the original release of Leopard. I was *copying* photos (about 150 of them) from an SD card to my desktop and in the middle of the copy session I got an error saying that one of the files was in use. It was however not in use by any application. The copy process stopped after that. I was able to copy the file over if I simply copied just that file. The same thing happened later when copying another set of photos from my desktop to my NAS.

Like I said I saw the exact same thing in the .0 release of Leopard and I'm not sure how this bug got back into the code base.

Anyone else seen this?
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I get that or similar problems, too. I wish Apple would make it so if an individual file has a problem, it'll keep copying everything else. When done or whatever, give a list of files that weren't copied & for what reason.

Also, I would like a smart copy function. If I'm copying a file somewhere that has a file w/ the same name. If it's the same file (just updated), use the updated version. If it's a different file, copy the file with a different name like "filename-1.[extension]". I'm just tired of the "There's a file with the same name & extension. Do you want to replace, skip or cancel?" messages. Also, have an option copy the file the way it is now, just in case.
 
guzhogi said:
Also, I would like a smart copy function. If I'm copying a file somewhere that has a file w/ the same name. If it's the same file (just updated), use the updated version. If it's a different file, copy the file with a different name like "filename-1.[extension]". I'm just tired of the "There's a file with the same name & extension. Do you want to replace, skip or cancel?" messages. Also, have an option copy the file the way it is now, just in case.
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That's a terrible idea on so many levels.
 
Michael73 said:
Anyone having issues related to putting their machines to Sleep, restarting them or shutting them down. Apple made a big deal that Snow Leopard was "faster from start up to shut down" but I've found just the opposite.

Specifically, on my MacPro I need to click :apple: > Sleep 2x before I can get the machine to go to sleep and the several times I've attempted restarts and shut downs the machine takes FOREVER! All the desktop items and top menu bar disappears and one of two things happen - either I get the gear just turning for 1-2 minutes before it finally shuts down OR my desktop background disappears and it changes to the blue screen with the gear that then turns for 1-2 minutes before shutting down.
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I wonder if a sudo shutdown now works for you, and if you tried to logout first, and then to shutdown or reboot from the login window.
 
Screen Sharing

I would be happy with a fix for black screens in screen sharing, that being the most used leopard feature for me.
 
difrance001 said:
Me too brother!! What the heck? Why are some saying no problem and yet some are having big issues???
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A lot of these perceptions are domain specific. If you're a graphics guy and all your tools are working, you're probably going to say everything's fine. If you're a developer, it was a bad weekend for a lot of people.

The email and web browsing crowd didn't get off scott free either. My friend's wifi on his iMac stopped working, and Pages started displaying all text as invisible.

Another thing I've noticed - anyone else having an issue with every application asking for keychain access every time you reboot? Maybe that's some new security setting I don't know about now, but I have to give everything permission over and over again. It's like those Get a Mac adds making fun of UAC.
 
although i'll definitely stick with leopard untill i buy a new macbook, it is good to see that apple takes care of the occuring problems ;)
 
I hadn't realized there were so many problems people were having with Snow Leopard! I'm sure 10.6.1 will address many of these. Let's hope it comes sooner rather than later!
 
Disk Utility: There appears to be some sort of incompatibility with previous Leopard versions in Disk Utility because I cannot check/repair permissions on two of my hard drives with Leopard 10.5.7 and 10.5.8 installed on it (the buttons for it are disabled/grayed out).

And starting up from a Leopard drive, and then trying to check/repair permissions results in another mandatory run of Disk Utility in Snow Leopard, because it doesn't seem to do good work there.

Time Machine: Trying to backup a Leopard drive in Snow Leopard results in a 100% reproducible kernel panic.
 
When I take a screenshot of just the menu bar, only the menu displays and nothing on the right hand side like spotlight etc
 
*LTD* said:
Not sure what you mean. Leopard SP1 was 10.5.1.
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10.6 is Leopard service pack one. In Apple's own words SL is about "speed and stability" and few new features. A service pack. In the same way W7 is service pack 3 for Vista. Microsoft and Apple should be ashamed of themselves for calling W7 and SL new OS's, they aren't.
 
Bubba Satori said:
10.6 is Leopard service pack one. In Apple's own words SL is about "speed and stability" and few new features. A service pack. In the same way W7 is service pack 3 for Vista. Microsoft and Apple should be ashamed of themselves for calling W7 and SL new OS's, they aren't.
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Hi Bubba Satori,

I understand your frustration with the lack of real feature advancement in Mac OS X Snow Leopard. I know that we spent time and money upgrading our computers from Leopard or Tiger and it might be nice to see some more obvious changes.

I assure you, though, that Mac OS X Snow Leopard is a totally different Leopard. Windows Service Packs tend to be rollouts of pieces of improved code for known bugs, where Mac OS X Snow Leopard is literally a completely new way for applications to talk to the hardware of your computer, and for users to interface with their computer. Although Snow Leopard does not change the graphical way that we do this in many ways, it makes non-user facing changes. Everyday Applications like the Finder change programming types completely, and applications that were once 32-bit are now 64-bit. This is far beyond the scope of a service pack. The ArsTechnica review of Snow Leopard by John Siracusa is a great read to see what has changed.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars
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I have not researched what changes Windows 7 brings to the Vista platform, so I won't comment on whether that is closer to a Service Pack than an independent operating system.
 
rlmccormick said:
A problem occurred in SL last night that I have not seen since the original release of Leopard. I was *copying* photos (about 150 of them) from an SD card to my desktop and in the middle of the copy session I got an error saying that one of the files was in use. It was however not in use by any application. The copy process stopped after that. I was able to copy the file over if I simply copied just that file. The same thing happened later when copying another set of photos from my desktop to my NAS.

Like I said I saw the exact same thing in the .0 release of Leopard and I'm not sure how this bug got back into the code base.

Anyone else seen this?
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Got a similar problem. When I drag files to my desktop, sent them with Mail, delete this files from desktop to trash and then try to empty the trash, OSX keeps telling me that file is in use, even though it could have been send an hour ago.
 
BongoBanger said:
Indeed. It was not always so.
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I will admit though, that for what it was, XP really came into its own around SP3.


Les Kern said:
FIX iDisk response times! It takes 3 minutes to upload a 25k file. Almost unusable under Snow Leopard.
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iDisk is fine on my end. It's either your connection, or you'll need to sign out of iDisk and then re-enable it.

Just visit Apple's site, sign on to Live Chat for MobileMe and talk to a rep. I've used the service before and it cleared up a similar issue I had about a year ago.
 
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