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Some Details on First Mac OS X 10.6.1 Seed (Build 10B503)

Printer issues = 0
Time Machine backup issues = 0
Graphical glitches/bugs = 0
Sluggish performance = no
Slow boot time = no
Third party driver issues = 1

Am I the only one??? :eek:

My Sony MSAC-EX1 ExpressCard adapter was causing kernel panics, and I think I just discovered why...its specifications page on Sony's website lists 10.4, but not later...it's most definitely a 32-bit Tiger driver issue or something. Oh well, nothing major.
 
I installed Snow Leopard after formatting the drive on my dads MacBook Core 2 Duo 2ghz with the Intel GMA X3100 and 1gb of RAM.

I've noticed most things run about the same as on Leopard, but when opening finder windows, theres LAG. As is some thats noticeable with resizing windows and such. Thats surprising, because The Finder was supposed to be one of the most tweaked applications in OS X 10.6

What grinds my gears is that now its a bit of a slower experience going through folders and all. I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM from 1gb to 2gb on his machine. Would it speed things up? I know the main memory is shared with the graphics card. I've noticed that when nothing is running theres about 300mb of available ram, but when a couple apps load, theres very little left (about 10-50mb).

I'm a little underwhelmed by Snow Leopard, to be honest. Only good thing is, is that it takes up far less space and has a few long overdue features (signal strength in airport menu from main menu) and sliders that increase/decrease icon size in the finder.
 
percival504 said:
Whenever I come here to catch up on things I see your posts -- why are you here? Its like a guy who claims he doesn't care about his ex-girlfriend standing outside of her house telling other guys how horrible she is... Why doesn't he just move on if he really doesn't have any feelings for her. When people spend so much time on message boards blasting a brand or product, I always wonder whether they're driven by (1) love of a competing product, or, (2) "hatred" of the product they're insulting. I find most people that have this ardent hatred for Macs have other deep seated emotional problems. How about you -- do you have emotional problems?
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To surmise that he has deep seated emotional problems would only be making a benevolent understatement, although, well sized up nonetheless.


In reference to HP printers, I've interfaced/networked all of mine by entering the printers' IP addresses into Protocol: HP Jetdirect - Socket. (Add Printer)
Also, no Spotlight problems since eliminating 3rd party mdimporters from Library/Spotlight - everything is working fluidly on all machines.
 
ungraphic said:
I installed Snow Leopard after formatting the drive on my dads MacBook Core 2 Duo 2ghz with the Intel GMA X3100 and 1gb of RAM.

I've noticed most things run about the same as on Leopard, but when opening finder windows, theres LAG. As is some thats noticeable with resizing windows and such. Thats surprising, because The Finder was supposed to be one of the most tweaked applications in OS X 10.6

What grinds my gears is that now its a bit of a slower experience going through folders and all. I'm thinking of upgrading the RAM from 1gb to 2gb on his machine. Would it speed things up? I know the main memory is shared with the graphics card. I've noticed that when nothing is running theres about 300mb of available ram, but when a couple apps load, theres very little left (about 10-50mb).

I'm a little underwhelmed by Snow Leopard, to be honest. Only good thing is, is that it takes up far less space and has a few long overdue features (signal strength in airport menu from main menu) and sliders that increase/decrease icon size in the finder.
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Yes, adding more ram would work wonders. That might be why you're underwhelmed. Two gigs should be fine.
 
gdhnz said:
You drag the file you want on to the file upload field. Why are you messing about with the dialog window?
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I think Apple has done enough disrupting my workflow with their changes since Tiger. It has been downhill since then but I'm too invested in it. :rolleyes:

I appreciate your attempts at help for this Open file dialog problem but none of your advice is going to work. I can't even drag the file into the upload field. It has to be selected using said dialog.

To be honest I might just go back to Leopard and be stuck there forever. Snow Leopard's changes to Finder and Spotlight searching might be enough. It was bad enough adjusting from Tiger but this is worse.

Coverflow and Quick Look have provided some pathetic replacements to what I could do in Tiger. The workflow workarounds leave me asking why Apple did it in the first place.

Protip: I don't like using Tiger besides the fact Spotlight Show All worked right back then.

Can you get the default Spotlight behavior to always sort by kind? I really need that. If someone could tell me how to do that in Leopard I'd really appreciate that.

Edit: One last thing. Why did Apple kill the Columns view while doing a Spotlight search?
 
primalman said:
I have found iDisk to be glacial for a while now, this is not a SL issue, IMO.
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Glacial doesn't begin to describe it .. more like ice age.
To get around it I sync'd my iDisk on my desktop .. I work on the files from the desktop icon and let the computer sync with the cloud at its leisure.
 
i3iz said:
NO ONE TOLD ME APPLE REMOVED APPLETALK IN SL. Lame!!! At any rate,
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actually telling you is beside the point. Telling Canon is the issue. And you can bet that they did, via the information developers could access for the last year. So the issue isn't Apple, but in fact Canon not getting it together and updating their drivers in a timely fashion. Even if they argued that they were working off a release date of Sept they should have had it ready by Sept 1 which means less than a week of not being able to use the printer.
 
Battery life and heat

This question goes for the people who did not have problems with their update

Because it is important issue before upgrading to SL
 
dropping

the dropping of wireless signals have been a problem since 10.4.8. after that updates improved it, and worsened it. each update you hope it remains good, but looks like to depend on what type of macbook (sometimes/often they use cheap sjit in the macbooks.
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ronin510 said:
I bought my 13" MacBook Pro less than a week ago. It came with a Snow Leopard drop in disc. I did a clean install and didn't really have much time playing with 10.5.x.

I've been experiencing Airport WiFi drops here and there. I've tried changing my router's SSID name from hidden, channel, and other settings. Does anyone know if this has anything to do with Snow Leopard or the MacBook Pro 13" in general? All other WiFi enabled computers/phones/ipods in the house don't seem to have a problem.
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Sehnsucht said:
Printer issues = 0
Time Machine backup issues = 0
Graphical glitches/bugs = 0
Sluggish performance = no
Slow boot time = no
Third party driver issues = 1

Am I the only one??? YES
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HP print drivers sucked, but they seem to work ok for me.

This morning I woke up to an annoying mail problem where all the junk mail is recovered for a week and put BACK into the mail box. No matter what I do to delete them, they jump back into the mail box again, as if they are new. -_-; WTF.

Photoshop is still crashing whenever it wants (CS3), as is most of the suite.

DVD Player is smoothing out as well as VLC, but they are buggy.

My computer just ditched on me a few days ago, for no particular reason. Permissions and Disk repair produced nothing. Everything fine.

I can't wait for more stable versions of this OS.
 
the vj said:
Do not get Snow Leopard yet, it will come full of bugs, wait for at least 6 months.

I open a thread about it and a bunch of loosers were upset of the warning and now they are complaining of the problemas they are facing.

Just WAIT!
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Works fine for me.... and it will work fine for most. but there is no reason to upgrade.. unless you actually want to be able to run the apps that will require SL. Your best bet is to Upgrade but before you do keep a Superduper backup that is bootable. Macs can do this. Use your Brain we are not running windows!
 
Eidorian said:
Coverflow and Quick Look have provided some pathetic replacements to what I could do in Tiger. The workflow workarounds leave me asking why Apple did it in the first place.

Can you get the default Spotlight behavior to always sort by kind? I really need that. If someone could tell me how to do that in Leopard I'd really appreciate that.

Edit: One last thing. Why did Apple kill the Columns view while doing a Spotlight search?
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1) Quicklook is absolute genius. How does it not help you? Coverflow, I have to agree with you there. Looks pretty, but rather gimmicky.

2) Spotlight sorts by kind (when searching from the Spotlight button.) If you click "show all", you'll get the results in the Finder. As for the use of Spotlight from the Finder, there are limitations, as you said. I too, would like a bit more flexibility here. Spotlight does sort by kind in the Finder window, but you'll need to use List view and click on Kind. So yes, it's not default, unless you've specified List view for that window or for all windows in the first place.

3) Column view for Spotlight results. Was this selectable in Tiger (I don't recall)? If so, I'm in agreement wih you here as well.

Again, Quicklook seems to be a pretty significant leap in file handling/interaction. I've got it set to the space bar and it works brilliantly.
 
*LTD* said:
1) Quicklook is absolute genius. How does it not help you? Coverflow, I have to agree with you there. Looks pretty, but rather gimmicky.

2) Spotlight sorts by kind (when searching from the Spotlight button.) If you click "show all", you'll get the results in the Finder. As for the use of Spotlight from the Finder, there are limitations, as you said. I too, would like a bit more flexibility here. Spotlight does sort by kind in the Finder window, but you'll need to use List view and click on Kind. So yes, it's not default, unless you've specified List view for that window or for all windows in the first place.

3) Column view for Spotlight results. Was this selectable in Tiger (I don't recall)? If so, I'm in agreement wih you here as well.

Again, Quicklook seems to be a pretty significant leap in file handling/interaction. I've got it set to the space bar and it works brilliantly.
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Apple Annoys me with Spotlight - There should and (there was for a brief period) a SIZE column .... Oh how I hate that its not there.
 
*LTD* said:
1) Quicklook is absolute genius. How does it not help you? Coverflow, I have to agree with you there. Looks pretty, but rather gimmicky.
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Quick Look works for a quick look when going in Finder and only in Finder not when you add Spotlight antics into the mix.

Icon view doesn't work when using Spotlight in the Open file dialog. Columns view was taken out in Snow Leopard as well. So it's icon view with no icon preview or list view and invoking Quick Look. Sorting is broken as well in list view.

I have set my exclusion and priorities correctly in for the Spotlight bar but once you transition over to Finder Spotlight searching it's a mess.

I miss Tiger's Spotlight show all the most. If I could only have that back. You had the option of going into Finder from there and not being forced to use amalgamation of Finder and Spotlight with different behaviors and controls that carried over into Finder's behavior. I don't want FINDER to be SPOTLIGHT for me and have my Spotlight workflow distrupt trying to use Finder. There was enough of a division between Spotlight and Finder back in Tiger. The Leopard complete integration just trashes it for me.

One more thing, can you set the view options on a folder by folder basis? I want Cover Flow in only one folder but for some reason in Leopard it automatically applied it to all folders even if never set it as default.

In Tiger you could have Icon View in one set of folders and List in another. I can't replicate this past Tiger.
 
slackpacker said:
Apple Annoys me with Spotlight - There should and (there was for a brief period) a SIZE column .... Oh how I hate that its not there.
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Now that IS odd. And it doesn't seem like you can add one. Nah, there must be some way to do it . . . :confused:
 
verakot said:
Do you recommend Snow Leopard? Especiall compared to 10.4?
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It is great, BUT if you need your computer for productivity, wait at least for 10.6.1 or 10.6.2 before taking the plunge.

Especially make sure that your printer and scanner driver is still working ;) http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3669

I personally have encountered a few minor annoyances like color calibration going haywire and Finder crashing during large/long copy actions when you start doing with it something else beside the copying.

Oh, and the external display sometimes isnt found. I am not alone on this issue.

Everything else though seems nice :)
 
Eidorian said:
In Tiger you could have Icon View in one set of folders and List in another. I can't replicate this past Tiger.
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Show View Options (command J) can be set for each individual folder. Open the folder first, then 'command J,' and then check 'Always open in...'
 
*LTD* said:
... Don't use MacRumors or AI as your measure. Just scan the general news and get a feel for the ebb and flow of opinion. For the most part, things are alright.
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Yes a sizable percentage of apps either not working well or not at all according to compatibility lists I last checked ...is...'alright'? The vast majority probably doesnt use those apps anyway? :eek:

Not to get me wrong... I am so looking forward to using SL. It will have some amazing things going for it once the kinks are worked out and more apps get updated.
 
i just want them to fix quicklook in the way that if i'm in a folder of pictures, and i'm in the middle of the files in the folder, if i quick look it, hit select all, quicklook doesn't display the first file in the folder. it worked in leopard in that respect.
 
Eidorian said:
I guess the default is apply to all folders now?
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Well what you'd do is select each folder and assign a default view to each.

For instance, my Photos folder will always open up in icon view. My documents folder (linked from my iDisk - I work off the Cloud), will always open in column view. The Spotlight results in the Finder will always open up in list view. And I set most everything else to open in column view.

So you need to go through each of your folders (the ones that you access most often) and manually set the default views.

I hope I understood your question correctly. :eek:
 
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