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Having read several posts in this thread - I also think some people don't understand how retargeting works. If you're searching on Amazon (or any brand's website) and then see that product on facebook or on another site. The "blame" for creepiness goes to Amazon or the other brand. Google and Facebook get the blame. The brand is placing a cookie on your device and then retargeting you. The brand is the one tracking you.
 
Facebook collects data from apps even if no Facebook account is used to log in and even if the user isn't a member of Facebook. They are able to get info regardless.
Our individual acts of defiance don't really mean much to facebook. 2.3 Billion monthly users. 1.1 Billion daily mobile users... other assorted absurd stats. Generally speaking, people don't care.
True. But given impotence we all have vis a vis FB, doing anything at all to at least try to inhibit them, or at least say “**** you”, even if they don’t hear it, feels good. It was cathartic for me to close account. Wish I never had one, but cest la vie.
Of course now I have to explain to people who don’t understand why. Including marketing person at my small office who urges us to “like” her posts about company, and share stories.
 
OK, sorry, but this is just funny. China doesn't allow Facebook in China because of the threat the sharing of information on such a platform presents. Let's not sit here and pretend that their somehow defenders of data privacy. There's no such thing as data privacy in China.
Yeah I thought that was quite humorous as well. They can find almost anyone in their country within hours through their CCTV camera network. They just don’t want anyone ELSE using the data.
 
Right, shame on Apple for giving people an enhanced sense of privacy with Apple devices. When is the WSJ going to perform the same investigation with apps from the playstore?

why the f*** should apples customers care playstore when using apple appstore? playstore can sell your mom, if asked - but when apple is playing ”privacy hero” here and creating hype without any facts that is the issue.
 
Right, shame on Apple for giving people an enhanced sense of privacy with Apple devices. When is the WSJ going to perform the same investigation with apps from the playstore?
Your anger is misdirected. The WSJ article is about the issue affecting Android and iOS. MR chose to not report on the Android side of it. Go look at the same info on 9to5mac, appleinsider, and any number of other sites. Both are mentioned.
 
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I am SO SO glad I removed myself from that pile of garbage, data sucking, evil Facebook junk!
The privacy issue - and apps submitting personal info to this virus of a site is one thing. But people ALWAYS contacting me via junk Facebook email-- which I never looked at, of course they cant now since my profile is gone.

Most of these people have my phone # so they could text me or just use regular email....for a change. The world does not revolve around this poisonous Social Media slop site!
 
Hope Apple services revenue increase has nothing to do with this! Facebook making so much money needs data and audience, if they get it from someone they must pay for it as well. I am sure Apple will have all the data.
 
Facebook app on my iPhone uses a ton of background activity time, even though I have explicitly set background app refresh turned off. So frustrating. Don't trust anything they do or say.
 
Having read several posts in this thread - I also think some people don't understand how retargeting works. If you're searching on Amazon (or any brand's website) and then see that product on facebook or on another site. The "blame" for creepiness goes to Amazon or the other brand. Google and Facebook get the blame. The brand is placing a cookie on your device and then retargeting you. The brand is the one tracking you.
Amazon has been targeting customers for many years just based upon past buying habits established at their website. Advertising from Amazon, via both the website and automated email, is based upon your product selections in the past. This has a side effect of reinforcing your future product choices to be consistent with what you've bought in the past, which can be restrictive in your future buying choices. I buy most of my books these days in e-form for Kindle. If I happen to have selected science fiction or technical books in the past, I'm besieged with suggestions for further books in those categories - to the exclusion of genres like history or biography. Netflix does the same sort of thing with its movie suggestions. Amazon, Google, Netflix, and the like are at least up front about their personally directed advertising policies. The worst thing about this data harvesting revelation with regard to Apple app developers is that it is happening without revealing such policies at the outset. One way some apps get around this is to bury any warnings and disclosures in obscure EULA fine print hardly any non-lawyers can decipher.
 
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why the f*** should apples customers care playstore when using apple appstore? playstore can sell your mom, if asked - but when apple is playing ”privacy hero” here and creating hype without any facts that is the issue.
Apple is not eye of Sauron that sees everything and knows everything. It’s a cat and mouse game you like it or not.
 
Amazon has been targeting customers for many years just based upon past buying habits established at their website. Advertising from Amazon, via both the website and automated email, is based upon your product selections in the past. This has a side effect of reinforcing your future product choices to be consistent with what you've bought in the past, which can be restrictive in your future buying choices. I buy most of my books these days in e-form for Kindle. If I happen to have selected science fiction or technical books in the past, I'm besieged with suggestions for further books in those categories - to the exclusion of genres like history or biography. Netflix does the same sort of thing with its movie suggestions. Amazon, Google, Netflix, and the like are at least up front about their personally directed advertising policies. The worst thing about this data harvesting revelation with regard to Apple app developers is that it is happening without revealing such policies at the outset. One way some apps get around this is to bury any warnings and disclosures in obscure EULA fine print hardly any non-lawyers can decipher.
Yes, amazon and Netflix make heavy use of machine learning and AI to enhance the customer experience. They are using your data to make a better customer experience for you. Presumably Netflix and amazon are not selling your data to third parties.(but maybe that’s not the case)

However, with third party apps and websites on all platforms the end-user has to “trust” the platform adheres to the privacy statement and doesn’t say one thing and do another; or worse doesn’t say and then the platform is surreptitiously doing some nefarious routing of your data.
 
Amazon has been targeting customers for many years just based upon past buying habits established at their website. Advertising from Amazon, via both the website and automated email, is based upon your product selections in the past. This has a side effect of reinforcing your future product choices to be consistent with what you've bought in the past, which can be restrictive in your future buying choices. I buy most of my books these days in e-form for Kindle. If I happen to have selected science fiction or technical books in the past, I'm besieged with suggestions for further books in those categories - to the exclusion of genres like history or biography. Netflix does the same sort of thing with its movie suggestions. Amazon, Google, Netflix, and the like are at least up front about their personally directed advertising policies. The worst thing about this data harvesting revelation with regard to Apple app developers is that it is happening without revealing such policies at the outset. One way some apps get around this is to bury any warnings and disclosures in obscure EULA fine print hardly any non-lawyers can decipher.

doesnt apple store do the same? when ever i go there, it is offering me to buy stuff for my previous bought devices and for the device i use... for example now it says ”recommended for ipad pro”. if i go the page ”find”, it shows me last watched items.

why does it bother when amazon do the same?

and im glad it does - sometimes i dont remember what was the item i checked and considered.
 
Facebook being an external website can do what it wants with your data once the “submit” button is pressed.

Then Apple shouldn’t allow Facebook. Or anything else that can share your information. I’m guessing Facebook is near the top of the list for most widely installed app on iPhone.

So it’s false advertising that what’s on your iPhone stays on your iPhone. Apple needs to put an asterisk and explain it in minuscule print.
 
Then Apple shouldn’t allow Facebook. Or anything else that can share your information. I’m guessing Facebook is near the top of the list for most widely installed app on iPhone.

So it’s false advertising that what’s on your iPhone stays on your iPhone. Apple needs to put an asterisk and explain it in minuscule print.
The bolder, covered previously. Apple is not the internet censor. Apple can have a stance on the use of data and not be two-faced by allowing data harvesters such as Facebook to access their ecosystem. And by taking payment from google for top preference on search engine.

It’s not false advertising because Facebook isn’t on your iPhone, technically, as google isn’t.
 
Facebook is freakin creepy.


Stop using it people. Just stop.

The massive amount of people using Facebook is what has allowed it to garner this type of power with third parties. Facebook continues to have massive scandals and the same people who are outraged go and check on it two minutes later. People need to stop using it, delete their accounts, and eventually it will not have this kind of power.
This is happening even if you don't use Facebook and there is no way to determine which of the apps on your cellphone are colluding with facebook.
 
The bolder, covered previously. Apple is not the internet censor. Apple can have a stance on the use of data and not be two-faced by allowing data harvesters such as Facebook to access their ecosystem. And by taking payment from google for top preference on search engine.

It’s not false advertising because Facebook isn’t on your iPhone, technically, as google isn’t.

Spun like a true Apple apologist. Carry on!
 
The amount of people without a phone number, an email account or an address to visit is probably rather low. People managed to stay in contact prior to Facebook - they just didn’t share as much nonsense with each other.
Most young people don't bother anymore with e-mail. They use messaging apps which they find faster and free of grammar and social conduct etiquette. Even Phone numbers are seldom used in favor of video chat. This is especially true in Asia.
 
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I'm so glad I stopped using Facebook years ago. Deleted the Instagram app, and don't use any fitness tracking apps. That's what my Apple Watch is for. I also don't use twitter or snapchat. Even in my mid 30s, I realize the dangers of excessive social media, and most of it these days is garbage about people's lives that I don't care to keep up with. Facebook has shown why sometimes government interference is necessary. What a **** show.
 
Most young people don't bother anymore with e-mail. They use messaging apps which they find faster and free of grammar and social conduct etiquette. Even Phone numbers are seldom used in favor of video chat. This is especially true in Asia.

Even more options to stay away from Facebook. Thanks for weighing in!
 
As far as I’m concerned Facebook should be kicked from the App Store. Any dumb **** in dying need can install that garbage with enterprise certificate.
 
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