Then do what, use android. That’s like saying “crooks keep picking my locks, I’m just going to leave the doors open from now on.” Android is just spyware in os form.[/QUOTE]
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Some iOS Apps Sending an Alarming Amount of Data to Facebook and Most Users Are Unaware
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I've always told people to NEVER trust a guy that wears a hair piece. If he's doing everything he can to hide the fact that he's bald just think of all the other crap he's trying to keep a secret! And Zuckerberg isn't the only one.....
Btw, Zuckerberg has the worst rug I've ever seen!
Btw, Zuckerberg has the worst rug I've ever seen!
Apple's garden is more like a garden with a chain link fence. There's a sign that says no trespassing but there is no privacy.
Apple doesn't have employees looking at the source code of submitted apps. Apple depends on the honesty of the 3rd party devs.
One would have to be naive to believe that Apple's app store is a bastion of safety and free of questionable, if not bad, actors.
There is a greater level of scrutiny than the Play Store, but it's not a quarantined jail either. That's just not practical, nor easy to enforce.
I despise the walled garden analogy, but if people are going to use it, this situation is like this -- a invited guest has been found whispering through the hedge or through the gate to an outside person. Party gossip to the uninvited.
Another analogy -- those who have had invited guests into their home may also have experiences where those guests exhibit unexpected, or undesired behavior. They are trusted enough to be invited in, not bad people, but that doesn't preclude them from acting in certain ways that may be objectionable to the host or other guests.
That's the real litmus test for Apple -- whether these apps violated any of its app store rules, or the apps' own policies -- and what actions Apple will take if violations are found. Force changes in the app? Suspend them? Banish them?
I do think Apple bears some level of responsibility, and has a mixed record in this regard.
When Uber was caught purposely tracking user activity, and geofencing Apple's HQ to try to conceal it, the company was let off with nothing but a personal scolding of Travis Kalanick by Tim Cook. For a company that had already exhibited a record of being ethically challenged, I think that may have been too lenient, and might not have sent a strong enough message, not just to Uber, but to all iOS developers. Those who don't read the tech press probably didn't even know what transpired, and Apple missed a chance to send a clear signal to all, users and developers alike.
The more recent transgressions involving misuse of developer certs by Facebook and Google were clear cut, the subsequent brouhaha did attain a level of notoriety in the general press, and show more of the decisive action I'd like to see from Apple in such situations.
What happens now, and going forward will be more telling as to Apple's true stance. And remember, actions, not words.
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Sheryl Sandberg and Zuck are the Tobacco Execs of the digital age.
Lie to the people.
Lie to the governments.
Lie to their employees.
Get rich selling a toxic product.
How this is not viewed as a criminal organization with it’s thoughtfully planned fraud and misinformation campaigns on a global scale is beyond comprehension.
Lie to the people.
Lie to the governments.
Lie to their employees.
Get rich selling a toxic product.
How this is not viewed as a criminal organization with it’s thoughtfully planned fraud and misinformation campaigns on a global scale is beyond comprehension.
I've been telling people to use Adguard Pro on iOS for over a year now. It's absolutely the best thing ever. Just add graph.facebook.com to the blocking list.
It may block some Facebook services, but it's Facebook's fault for intentionally putting all of its tracking / analytics under the same Facebook.com domain making it impossible to block surgically using DNS filter list, just like Google does. I for one have blocked the entire Facebook.com domain on my phone.
It's absolutely the best privacy tool on iOS. Trust me guys. With its DNS log, you'd be amazed at how many times an app pings its data brokers in the background.
Also an observation: WiFiMap's privacy policy states that it collects data from other sources and combines with what they already have. A few apps automatically ping their server and data brokers whenever the network environment is changed, like from Wi-Fi to cellular. That's every time when you go home or to work and those data broker would know even without location service turned on on iOS.
Read more stuff on EFF and you'd be amazed.
Gay app Grindr used to have Facebook SDK too. Every time you open Grindr, it'd ping Facebook and Facebook knows you opened Grindr..
Just FYI, it's been happening for ages. Facebook is more prevalent, that's why they're successfully financially and in turn more app developers add Facebook SDK and send more info to them.
Link to the app:
https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1126386264?pt=31050800&ct=web_24276&mt=8
It may block some Facebook services, but it's Facebook's fault for intentionally putting all of its tracking / analytics under the same Facebook.com domain making it impossible to block surgically using DNS filter list, just like Google does. I for one have blocked the entire Facebook.com domain on my phone.
It's absolutely the best privacy tool on iOS. Trust me guys. With its DNS log, you'd be amazed at how many times an app pings its data brokers in the background.
Also an observation: WiFiMap's privacy policy states that it collects data from other sources and combines with what they already have. A few apps automatically ping their server and data brokers whenever the network environment is changed, like from Wi-Fi to cellular. That's every time when you go home or to work and those data broker would know even without location service turned on on iOS.
Read more stuff on EFF and you'd be amazed.
Gay app Grindr used to have Facebook SDK too. Every time you open Grindr, it'd ping Facebook and Facebook knows you opened Grindr..
Just FYI, it's been happening for ages. Facebook is more prevalent, that's why they're successfully financially and in turn more app developers add Facebook SDK and send more info to them.
Link to the app:
https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1126386264?pt=31050800&ct=web_24276&mt=8
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There would be people calling conspiracy theories among other things were one to speak out
This is a new tack. Facebook pretending to be the victim?
That's interesting. That's very interesting.
Or to put it another way:
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Where are you adding this..?
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Playing victim is not newThis is a new tack. Facebook pretending to be the victim?
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That's interesting. That's very interesting.
It's this one:
https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1126386264?pt=31050800&ct=web_24276&mt=8
It's also an open source app, better security.
How do I attach a screenshot?
I have been thinking all along that using an iPhone in some way protects me more than using an Android device. I do subscribe to the WSJ and did read the whole article. They tested some 70 commonly used iOs Apps and found 11 of them sent over data to facebook even if the app user did not have a Facebook account. The type of data sent over is beyond shocking. For women using an App to keep track of ovulation cycle, all of that information was sent over to Facebook on a regular basis. Likewise News Corp owned realtor.com. and many more such Apps. I am losing trust in Apple.
Apple needs to integrate a firewall solution. Some apps don't need an internet connection at all like this Heart monitor which can be used locally without the need to send private data over the net.
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You can make a de-googled android device more secure than iOS with a firewall solution and more control over what an app can or can't access or send over the net.
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You can make a de-googled android device more secure than iOS with a firewall solution and more control over what an app can or can't access or send over the net.
And please re-read my statement... and this was a response to your comment.
And again, I am wondering what mechanism is being used to transport that data.
Is the app collecting the data and sending it back to their servers and then from their servers they have a connection to FB? If that is the case, this has nothing to do with the security of the OS. Of course the question of "is permission being obtained from the user" to send such info? You know that long and often read TOS or Privacy Statement...
If the app is directly connected to Facebook and sending info directly from the app, then there is an issue.
But you agree to "Third Parties" when you agree to the EULA.
Holy Cow... You stated...... Just add graph.facebook.com to the blocking list.
WHERE on this App am I adding this? Can you be more specific. Not another link to the app..
Thanks...
Brave Browser is built with Chrome. I wouldn't use it if you care about privacy.
Facebook is like cockroaches. I don't even use facebook and I bet they have my data.
The full report appears to be behind a paywall
I'm surprised by this revelation, but should I really at this point? Sad, to see such major sites, like realtor.com doing such things.
If you just take the story name and search for it the web crawler has access behind most pay walls. A good trick to know...I just did it and I am reading the story...
Theee days one needs to computers.. A personal one and a dummy one which one does not care too much about. Same with smartphones. The one you don’t care about you can put anything on it except for personal info
I trust apple implicitly with my pii and trust that the App Store is fairly safe. You are not going to get 100% compliance from an App Store containing millions of apps. There are very ingenious ways to misuse your data once it enters the back-end stores.
Security is a process not an end-goal.
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I got a chuckle as I wrote this.
The Fanboy Anti-Facebook List does exactly what you are talking about, and it is already included in the app. People just need to enable it under Filters.