Some iPhone 15 Models Expected to Ship From India at Launch as Shift Away From China Continues

[IIGS User]

India being a large market that has tariff issues I suspect a large majority of the new production will ultimately end up for sale in India.

Tim Cook is smart to start moving away from China, and for doing it slowly. No need to piss off your current landlord until you find new digs and make them just right. It appears more and more every day that a conflict with China in some sort is in the cards. I really hope not. No one wins wars. Wars only produce survivors, at least on a human level.

India is a good place in Asia for Apple to be diversifying to. In the future as chip making capacity in the Western Hemisphere ramps up, I suspect a lot of precision electronic manufacturing will end up in South America.

Western powers are just biding time with China until this critical manufacturing capacity can come online in a place not subject to conventional attack by the PLA. Semiconductor production is a national defense issue for the US and allied countries the same way shipbuilding and tank production was during previous conflicts.

 

[5105973]

I can't believe you would say such a thing. Ice cream may not be healthy, but a total ban would be wrong.

My coffee hasn’t kicked in. What now? Ice cream? Huh?

Whatever. I took down what I said because it’s dated and no longer applies to the worldwide situation

 

[Realityck]

Time will tell how everything works out, for now mostly internal sales.

 

[nicho]

Well, do you see India doing anything bad? I think it's a nice little win for us. Small, but needed.

Do you look for India doing anything bad?

How do you see China doing anything bad? Is it because you're omnipresent and watching everything they do, or is it because you're being fed examples of badness? Could it be that you're not seeing the same of India because of others' vested interests in presenting a narrative?

Just a bit of critical thinking for you there. The change is more than a 'little' win for someone. But a "nice little win" for you... really?

 

[0924487]

Well, do you see India doing anything bad? I think it's a nice little win for us. Small, but needed.

They are both a part of BRICS.

 

[votdfak]

Still BRICKS... LOL

 

[0924487]

That's a part of it. The issue I see with this is that many companies are pretty much giving China, and other countries with cheap labor access to their technology for almost nothing, and then they become reliant on them. Think of when the COVID19 pandemic started. There was shortage of many things. At times, even some medicine was in limited supply. It makes things tough when a country you rely on decides not to play ball.

The reverse can be said on the US for many countries with US dollars, US adjacent technologies and semiconductors.

 

[Wyckham]

This is brilliant news

 

[floral]

They are both a part of BRICS.

Why does nobody give love to STICS?

 

[snak-atak]

Is it? Less dependency on China, and more on India.

As long as they continue to have good controls over quality, then yes, it’s a very good thing. Even better is if they can add more suppliers in this hemisphere.

 

[Glideslope]

Don't just focus on India. Apple is going with Vietnam and Malaysia for a large amount of production. If you recently purchased an M2 Mac Mini check it's "Made In."

I'd love Apple to move production to the US but we need to increase our domestic chip production drastically first. I doubt many customers exist for a $2,000 made in the US entry level iPhone.

 

[sw1tcher]

Well, do you see India doing anything bad? I think it's a nice little win for us. Small, but needed.

Yes. And I'd point out some of the bad things India has and is doing, but if I brought up political topics an over overzealous mod would probably ban me, so I won't.

 

[Mr. Dee]

Interesting. I wonder which countries would get phones from india, and which from china.

Presumably countries that have tariffs on some chinese goods would presumably get theirs from india.

I think in terms of logistics, it might be beneficial for certain regions closer to India. Its just that countries that border India don't necessarily look like markets that can necessarily afford an iPhone:

China, Pakistan, Bhutan, Myanmar, Afghanistan, Nepal and Bangladesh

And China is already a major manufacturing hub for the iPhone. Then again, India is big enough, it could be its own supplier.

 

[sorgo †]

Is it? Less dependency on China, and more on India.

Speaking geopolitically…both BRICS nations, anyway. So yeah who cares

 

[Steve121178]

Diversification of product assembly makes a lot of sense in today's world.

Most of all, I hope people working in the factories are getting paid beneficial, life-giving wages.

You think Apple went to India because they enjoy absorbing higher staff salaries? Or do you think they took advantage of dirt cheap salaries & the vastly cheaper cost of doing business once again?

 

[floral]

Yes. And I'd point out some of the bad things India has and is doing, but if I brought up political topics an over overzealous mod would probably ban me, so I won't.

Okay. If you don't mind, could you PM me what they did?

 

[0924487]

Why does nobody give love to STICS?

Société des transports intercommunaux de Charleroi is region specific.

 

[floral]

Société des transports intercommunaux de Charleroi is region specific.

Oh. I was actually trying to make a joke about BRICS sounding like "bricks" so I tried to make STICS out of "sticks"... but I didn't know it was actually a thing :O

 

[tridley68]

If India can deliver a good product than im all for this

 

[prism]

Yet another reason to go for the pro!

 

[emosewamai]

Apple plans to ship iPhone 15 models from India upon the device's launch

So, would the package say, "Designed in California Assembled in India"?

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Well, do you see India doing anything bad? I think it's a nice little win for us. Small, but needed.

And India has large quality control issues. I'm concerned that so many medications are coming from India, especially after the eye drop poisoning disaster. Aleve, manufactured by Bayer Global, used to list on the box where the contents were pressed, and I was shocked to find they came from India (the last time I bought Aleve, there was no source on either the box, or bottle). Hearing that some 'pill pressing companies' are lax about cleaning their machines between different product runs sure makes me feel really safe getting almost anything from India, but it's not just them, it's almost anything I ingest coming from China, or other countries that make me somewhat concerned.

A phone isn't a drug or food item, but it can be just as important. And if they have an elevated failure rate, that is going to negatively impact customers.

Apple seems to have their work cutout for them to insure and assure their contractor is putting out Apple Quality products.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

So, would the package say, "Designed in California Assembled in India"?

It should. I think that the source is required for some countries? I'd think the EU possibly.

 

[floral]

And India has large quality control issues. I'm concerned that so many medications are coming from India, especially after the eye drop poisoning disaster. Aleve, manufactured by Bayer Global, used to list on the box where the contents were pressed, and I was shocked to find they came from India (the last time I bought Aleve, there was no source on either the box, or bottle). Hearing that some 'pill pressing companies' are lax about cleaning their machines between different product runs sure makes me feel really safe getting almost anything from India, but it's not just them, it's almost anything I ingest coming from China, or other countries that make me somewhat concerned.

A phone isn't a drug or food item, but it can be just as important. And if they have an elevated failure rate, that is going to negatively impact customers.

Apple seems to have their work cutout for them to insure and assure their contractor is putting out Apple Quality products.

Oh

 

[BobSc]

This is such an amazing news! Years in the making. I can't wait to track our new iPhones coming from India directly.

Yup. 50% failure rate from some Indian suppliers is truly amazing!! And it's only the iPhone 15 that is being partly made in India. The rest of the lineup is exclusively from China. And such excitement about tracking is amazing news.