The package would say, "designed in calif, parts from India, final assembly in China, then shipping from India". But that's only for the base 15 model. The rest of the lineup will be exclusively made in China.
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Some iPhone 15 Models Expected to Ship From India at Launch as Shift Away From China Continues
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Well Tim Cook's Apple is still investing heavily in China. If not more than ever. They only get the marketing PR headlines with "Assembled in India" and can lower politics and shareholder pressures. What that means is that Apple is still, very much Pro-China. As they have been for many many years. ( I mean Apple isn't hiding it either, you just have to read their actual Annual Report, Supplier Report to get a basic understanding )
But then again, Apple is very good with PR, and they will sure make a big deal out of it.
But then again, Apple is very good with PR, and they will sure make a big deal out of it.
I mean yes, I do, Modi’s govt skews more authoritarian, theocratic, and hyper-nationalistic than previous Indian govts, which is causing a lot of problems on a lot of fronts, but also India is still vastly better than China
India and China appear to be headed the same direction in a few things. Any of which could prove to be problematic for India and their citizens. *shrug*
How is caste system related to democracy. Anyone can be democratically elected and there have been all sorts of people elected.
I am all for Apple diversifying their production line. I also would like to see India rise as a manufacturing giant to compete with China. Still we are in the nascent process of this happening. It will take at least a decade or two for India or for that matter any country to take a sizable amount of production away from China.
My biggest concern is based on quality issues as others have mentioned. Only one in two iphone casings being in usable quality sounds bad to me. I have no problem with India but I have my doubts that they will be able to repeat the China manufacturing success story or reach neurotic levels of quality control that we have seen in Japanese manufacturing.
Japan and later China excelled so well because domestic suppliers and assembly contractors were willing to spend BIG to win contracts and build out ever better and efficient production lines. OCD levels of quality control and a mentality of constant improvement, a no such thing as good enough are the reasons for that success.
As much as I love India and its people I am troubled by certain aspects of Indian society. I may get a lot of flak over this but cheapness and a mentality of ”good enough” seems to prevail amongst Indians. Finding the cheapest way possible to do things seems to take precedent at the expense of long term goals. Indian businesses will often hamstring themselves because of short sighted cost cutting. Really sad as the country has a large and ever growing base of educated people. I think it’s a combination of the difficulty of escaping a poverty mindset and the social ills of the old caste system that hold them back.
If anyone can prove me wrong let me know. Please point out an Indian owned company or manufacturer that is renowned for quality, reliability, and or exceptional customer service.
My biggest concern is based on quality issues as others have mentioned. Only one in two iphone casings being in usable quality sounds bad to me. I have no problem with India but I have my doubts that they will be able to repeat the China manufacturing success story or reach neurotic levels of quality control that we have seen in Japanese manufacturing.
Japan and later China excelled so well because domestic suppliers and assembly contractors were willing to spend BIG to win contracts and build out ever better and efficient production lines. OCD levels of quality control and a mentality of constant improvement, a no such thing as good enough are the reasons for that success.
As much as I love India and its people I am troubled by certain aspects of Indian society. I may get a lot of flak over this but cheapness and a mentality of ”good enough” seems to prevail amongst Indians. Finding the cheapest way possible to do things seems to take precedent at the expense of long term goals. Indian businesses will often hamstring themselves because of short sighted cost cutting. Really sad as the country has a large and ever growing base of educated people. I think it’s a combination of the difficulty of escaping a poverty mindset and the social ills of the old caste system that hold them back.
If anyone can prove me wrong let me know. Please point out an Indian owned company or manufacturer that is renowned for quality, reliability, and or exceptional customer service.
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Not related, they don't determine voting rights based on cast/religion.
COVID lockdowns were the problem.
Eliminating term limits is another problem.
even though China is not a democracy there were some controls in place & Xi is working hard to become a dictator.
Foxconn is not a Chinese company, HQ in Taiwan.
Apple controls manufacturing process and Quality Control.
Foxconn is Contract Manufacturer, they provide labor and factory.
Great to hear this. Hopefully Apple will start making Pro Max also in India.
Are you still living in 1970?
Based on what? Are you saying the emergency enforced by the Congress government was better than Modi government? Or is it the corruption?
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I was involved with enough 'third party providers' to know that Apple influences manufacturing and quality control. If it fails their testing, it's a monetary ding on the provider/contractor. Apple will likely provide the raw parts to be assembled, or setup the contracts with the other manufacturers to deliver them. Apple would then likely monitor their procurement to insure the parts of their product are 'official parts', but Apple will 'monitor' the production, not 'control' it. Foxconn, or whoever does the manufacturing will have to submit test results and pass/fail performance, and will likely have to submit to various 'tours' of the plants, but Apple isn't going to 'run' the plants.
And from what I observed, that whole process can be quite complicated. Especially if the component suppliers provide flawed parts that are then assembled into failing products. One company I worked with on their IT issues was processing castings from a subsidiary of the 'purchaser' of the casting once processed by this company (a business model that made no sense to me). Well, the castings started having voids in them, and the 'purchaser' of them was charging this company for providing 'flawed product', and it was running into an issue that would have bankrupted this company. The processor company threatened to sue both companies and also threatened to install an x-ray machine to test the castings prior to their processing at the suppliers expense. In the end, the parent company installed the x-ray systems at their subsidiary and the quality of the supplied castings went up. (But in the end, the processing company went under anyway because management of their supplier/purchaser 'punished them' and started shipping the castings to Mexico to be processed to be shipped back to Canada to be finish processed/assembled. Go figure)
