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Some New Apple TV 4K Users Report 4K Content Incorrectly Labeled as HD

AppleTO said:
Uh, so no one can tell the difference between HD and 4K regardless? That’s kind of ironic.
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I can barely tell the difference between 4K and upconverted HD and I sit 5’ from a 65” OLED monitor and watch fully uncompressed video all day in my edit suite. But I just do it for a living on gear that costs $30,000+, so what do I know.

Bet the marketing folks at Sony have an answer though.
 
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patsfan83 said:
I can barely tell the difference between 4K and upconverted HD and I sit 5’ from a 65” OLED monitor and watch fully uncompressed video all day in my edit suite. But I just do it for a living on gear that costs $30,000+, so what do I know.

Bet the marketing folks at Sony have an answer though.
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I guess, in all fairness, 4K from steaming services are majorly compressed (as is HD of any sort), but still. I just find it kind of funny.
 
Zadigre said:
source is me.
I have match content enabled for both settings (I don't know the exact name).
on most app (except YouTube), if I watch some content, my tv will switch to 480p, 720, 1080p, 4k... and refresh rate 24,30 and 60 accordingly.

if you don't have match content enabled, yes it will stay at 4k/60 (or whatever mode selected).
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I'm correcting myself here...
yeah Apple TV will output everything at 4K no matter what you watch.
only frequency and HDR/SDR will be matched to the content.
 
AppleTO said:
I guess, in all fairness, 4K from steaming services are majorly compressed (as is HD of any sort), but still. I just find it kind of funny.
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4K isn’t some magical button. You need to shoot, edit, distribute/stream all in 4K. You then need to have a TV large enough to see the pixels at your viewing distance. Let’s say you sit 15’ from the TV, you need at least a 120” screen to even start to see improvements.
Or your typical 50” screen you’d have to sit 5 feet from.

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Sorry to go a bit OT, but whilst streamed HDR content looks great on my new Apple TV 4K, HDR videos that I have taken on my iPhone look awful. (I'm using iCloud photos to play them on the ATV). Colours are massively exaggerated, it's difficult to describe. They look much better on the phone itself. If I play them in SDR on the TV they look fine. I'm using a 49 inch LG 4K HDR TV and high speed HDMI cable. I've tried setting the 'match content' for dynamic range and it then plays it in SDR (The HDR logo doesn't appear on the TV when the video starts, which it does if 'match content' is off). If I set it to match frame rate the frame rate actually gets worse, very choppy.
Any tips? Thanks. Andy.
 
Has anyone looked at what the new Apple TV 4K calls itself in your iCloud account? I have two 4Ks, the old one and now the new one. The new one just shows up in my iCloud account at Apple TV and the old one shows as Apple TV 4K.
 
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zoomp said:
It’s pretty easy to test it on Netflix:

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Watch Test Patterns | Netflix

This is a collection of video test patterns organized by source resolution and native frame rate. The resolution indicated in the pattern's title identifies the title's source resolution, and therefore, the stream set's maximum encoded resolution. The frame rate indicated in the pattern's title...
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These are the internal Netflix test patterns, choose the one with 3840x2160 and 24 FPS. When it reaches 12-16 mbps and you can see the round targets on the corners without any smudging, it’s full 4K.
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Really????
 
Zadigre said:
I'm correcting myself here...
yeah Apple TV will output everything at 4K no matter what you watch.
only frequency and HDR/SDR will be matched to the content.
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Sooo....should 'Match' content etc. be selected???
 
Zadigre said:
I would say yes unless your tv is completely s***... at least your tv will play at the right frequency and right Color range (HDR/SDR).
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Thanks for the reply. I agree and have done so. Another question : does anyone have an opinion on changing Chroma from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 ? Me thinks 4:2:2 is brighter/better. What do you think? Neat that the ATV tests it for you. My TV is a 2021 Samsung QLED 80T
 
Blowback said:
Thanks for the reply. I agree and have done so. Another question : does anyone have an opinion on changing Chroma from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 ? Me thinks 4:2:2 is brighter/better. What do you think? Neat that the ATV tests it for you. My TV is a 2021 Samsung QLED 80T
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For movies, I don’t think it makes a big difference.
I put it to 4:2:2 right away.
 
Just enable Developer Mode from Xcode on a Mac while the ATV is in the Remotes and Devices menu and then enable the Playback HUD in the Developer menu on the ATV. It will then show a yellow overlay with metadata like stream resolution whenever a video is playing with the native player. Won't work for YouTube or Plex with the new player, but they have their own overlays.

That should make it easy to check the actual video resolution.
 
Atmos4 said:
Just enable Developer Mode from Xcode on a Mac while the ATV is in the Remotes and Devices menu and then enable the Playback HUD in the Developer menu on the ATV. It will then show a yellow overlay with metadata like stream resolution whenever a video is playing with the native player. Won't work for YouTube or Plex with the new player, but they have their own overlays.

That should make it easy to check the actual video resolution.
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Problem is that isn’t showing you whether or not you’re getting an upscaled picture or not.
 
Apple TV+ plays in 4K. Movies Anywhere doesn't see my Apple TV as a 4K device. All other streaming apps labels my 4k movies as HD... This definitely need to be fixed before my return period...
 

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I updated from tvOS 14.6 public release to 14.7 public beta build Charlie, and it solved the issue. All videos in Netflix and Prime Video and Disney+ (Disney+Hotstar in India) that were previously showing up as HD in the info tab are now showing as 4K/UHD/Dolby Vision as applicable. There is definitely a significant improvement, in both 4K quality and HDR levels.

I always keep match content off, as I find that the quality is best with my tv (LG OLED C9).

I used the Reset and Update setting in the system tab. I tried the reset all settings and it didn’t work while I was on public release version of tvOS 14.6. I tried reset and update without allowing beta OS, and it said there was a problem and it was unable to update.
 
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