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Some OS X Yosemite Users Plagued With Wi-Fi Connection Issues
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Out of 3 machines I had problems on my 2012 rMBP. Fixed it by creating a new location. All my imacs seems unaffected. There are always some issues with a complex piece of software. If you are running mission critical don't update unless you know what you're doing. This is a universal law. Yosemite is remarkably trouble free compared to Mavericks release.
I don't know if this is in any way related, but my rMBP is performing MUCH better now...
I was having trouble with the Mac Mail app, primarily in using my work Exchange account. Messages with larger attachments would get stuck in my outbox and render the Mail app pretty much useless until finally sent or deleted from the outbox. Also, several times a day the inbox would not properly refresh when moving or deleting messages (deleted messages would reappear).
I was also experiencing a ton of "stuttering" within Safari, some pages refusing to load until I'd hit the refresh button (sometimes multiple times).
Yesterday, I removed my work email account and then added it back. My entire system has benefitted. Mail is working much more smoothly. And certain sites that I simply could not load in Safari (LinkedIn in particular, which I use multiple times a day), are loading perfectly.
So again, I am not sure that these are wifi related issues, but certainly could be related to wifi/network speed/consistency.
I was having trouble with the Mac Mail app, primarily in using my work Exchange account. Messages with larger attachments would get stuck in my outbox and render the Mail app pretty much useless until finally sent or deleted from the outbox. Also, several times a day the inbox would not properly refresh when moving or deleting messages (deleted messages would reappear).
I was also experiencing a ton of "stuttering" within Safari, some pages refusing to load until I'd hit the refresh button (sometimes multiple times).
Yesterday, I removed my work email account and then added it back. My entire system has benefitted. Mail is working much more smoothly. And certain sites that I simply could not load in Safari (LinkedIn in particular, which I use multiple times a day), are loading perfectly.
So again, I am not sure that these are wifi related issues, but certainly could be related to wifi/network speed/consistency.
Same here
I have the issue also on my MBA mid 2011.
Issue started aound version 4 or 5 of the public betas, and has been there since.
I tried some of the many suggestions, which helped a couple of days, but now it is the same again :-(
Really hopong for a fix.
I have the issue also on my MBA mid 2011.
Issue started aound version 4 or 5 of the public betas, and has been there since.
I tried some of the many suggestions, which helped a couple of days, but now it is the same again :-(
Really hopong for a fix.
I blame this on Apple because they directly control the hardware that their devices run. If they still can't get it right, then it's hard to see how it's anyone else's fault. I can understand a Linux or BSD OS having issues with WiFi because they are all volunteers and have to support a myriad of chipsets with little help from their manufacturers (and sometimes outright hostility). But Apple? No excuse.
I also have this problem with iOS8. Have to turn wi-fi off and then on again to make it work several times a day....wtf?
Don't blame it on Apple when every one of their major (and occasionally minor) updates seems to break Wi-Fi for at least some people? Updating your OS shouldn't do that.
No, I too have been on 10.10 since early DP. I have been reporting severe wifi and network bugs since two months.
Most of the users posting on forums are going somehow find a solution. But what about all those users(majority) who aren't ???? They are just NOT going to be able to use the web let alone know how to downgrade. Days are looooooong gone where Apple just works. I love os x and as a developer myself I can deal with it, my neighbor, mother, aunt, friends, clients are all not able to deal with os x. I,d say that the way the use os x is limiting them severely that they only get about 10% of what os x is about. Apple isn't simple anymore it is highly complicated (and awesome for those with computer knowledge) and not at all simple to use for the average individual. Too bad all the reviews by publich instances like w. Mosberg are so obviously 'paid for advertising' - if journalists would go back to being objective, perhaps Apple would get some real opinions
You are right, I have never had issues with them until the past couple of years. I cant even use my wifi on my brand new rMBP, and i cant even hard wire it either because there is no port. So i have to use my ipad in the library instead of my $2,000 laptop haha. the thing is, Apple has such a fan base and crowd, like on here, that will buy or download and upgrade to the newest stuff, just because. Apple has the highest quantity of early adopters. I have always waited in line for the new iphone models, well wont do it anymore. My iphone 6 already has problems. Anyway, they have the money i dont understand why they rush products to the market without fully testing them, especially since this is a know issue with upgrades. now i have to wait until they release a patch to fix this?? JOKE!
Question: Are people with this WiFi issue ones that Updated to Yosemite OR ones that did a Clean install (used Disk Utility to erase the drive and then Install Yosemite, with no backup restore)?
I'm on a MacBook Air 2012 with no issues, performed a clean install.
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Kind of like my other post
Did you do a Clean install (iOS calls it a "Restore Firmware" and erases the Phone to do factory default install of iOS, with no backup restore) OR did you do a update (either OTA or through iTunes)?
I did a clean install and have had no issues with my iPhone 5 and iPhone 5s.
I'm on a MacBook Air 2012 with no issues, performed a clean install.
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Kind of like my other post
Did you do a Clean install (iOS calls it a "Restore Firmware" and erases the Phone to do factory default install of iOS, with no backup restore) OR did you do a update (either OTA or through iTunes)?
I did a clean install and have had no issues with my iPhone 5 and iPhone 5s.
Tim is too concerned about his sexuality to worry about the day to day operations of his company.
re: question
It does seem odd, but you've got several factors to consider.
1. These aren't all necessarily manufactured with "identical components". When you sell as much volume as a company like Apple (or Dell or HP), you usually wind up changing revision levels of some of the chips, mid-stream. Your systems might all include, say, the "Realtek 52160ac" wi-fi chipset, but Realtek might start shipping "rev B" and later, "rev C" of that chipset as you keep placing orders for more of them. The revision level changes are supposed to be minor, but especially with things like wi-fi, you never can tell what strange incompatibilities it might add or eliminate along the way.
2. The bigger issue, here, may be a combination of how the OS X software communicates with the wireless chip, and how that in turn, causes issues when it's linked to certain makes or models of wireless routers out there.
(Just a random "what if?" off the top of my head here ... but say OS X Mavericks happened to poll the chip a certain number of times per second, while multitasking and doing everything else with the network stack, and that worked great. Now Yosemite has some new code in it for AirDrop and everything else related to network communications -- so it has to slog through some additional programming each time it polls the chip? It might be polling it X number of thousand times per second less than the previous OS did. Maybe in testing, especially with Apple Airport Extreme or Express hardware as the router on the other end, this still worked just fine. But some older D-Link or Linksys/Cisco routers are less forgiving about timing? If the communication has any "lag" of so many microseconds in some portion of it over the airwaves, it starts cancelling packets and making things go SLOW.)
I'm not a software developer and definitely not an expert in how wireless chipsets interact. But I've been supporting computers and I.T. for over 25 years now, and seen an awful lot of "weird" stuff that on the surface, doesn't seem to make any logical sense. Wireless is a tough thing to consistently get 100% right, because it relies just as much on the router side as on your wireless device's side to work properly.
It does seem odd, but you've got several factors to consider.
1. These aren't all necessarily manufactured with "identical components". When you sell as much volume as a company like Apple (or Dell or HP), you usually wind up changing revision levels of some of the chips, mid-stream. Your systems might all include, say, the "Realtek 52160ac" wi-fi chipset, but Realtek might start shipping "rev B" and later, "rev C" of that chipset as you keep placing orders for more of them. The revision level changes are supposed to be minor, but especially with things like wi-fi, you never can tell what strange incompatibilities it might add or eliminate along the way.
2. The bigger issue, here, may be a combination of how the OS X software communicates with the wireless chip, and how that in turn, causes issues when it's linked to certain makes or models of wireless routers out there.
(Just a random "what if?" off the top of my head here ... but say OS X Mavericks happened to poll the chip a certain number of times per second, while multitasking and doing everything else with the network stack, and that worked great. Now Yosemite has some new code in it for AirDrop and everything else related to network communications -- so it has to slog through some additional programming each time it polls the chip? It might be polling it X number of thousand times per second less than the previous OS did. Maybe in testing, especially with Apple Airport Extreme or Express hardware as the router on the other end, this still worked just fine. But some older D-Link or Linksys/Cisco routers are less forgiving about timing? If the communication has any "lag" of so many microseconds in some portion of it over the airwaves, it starts cancelling packets and making things go SLOW.)
I'm not a software developer and definitely not an expert in how wireless chipsets interact. But I've been supporting computers and I.T. for over 25 years now, and seen an awful lot of "weird" stuff that on the surface, doesn't seem to make any logical sense. Wireless is a tough thing to consistently get 100% right, because it relies just as much on the router side as on your wireless device's side to work properly.
Thx for tip, something to try this weekend.
fwiw, in the AVS forum I posted the below:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/1689258-official-2014-vizio-p-series-owner-s-thread-206.html#post28679490
What WiFi speeds are you guys getting?
My TV is located about 40 feet from my new Apple Airport Extreme (has wifi ac).
I have 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz networks for daily usage, and Guest network for family/friends who come over.
Speeds seem very similar, max close to 18 Mb/s, if I hit re-test lots of times it varies 15-17MB/s on both.
The 2.4Ghz network keeps 5 bars, the 5Ghz 4 bars strength.
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I've not tried 4k streaming yet, what are minimum speeds needed?
(ok, Google is my friend here)
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26957001
Using http://www.speedtest.net/ I am getting 18Mb/s on my Cable service itself, Comcast here in SE Detroit.
Seems like the Cable router>Wifi router>TV keeps the download speed pretty decent.
"Some", "a number", and "quite a few" tells us nothing. Of the millions of users, what percentage are experiencing these problems?
This is nothing more than another "click bait" story trying to make something out of nothing.
Nine people out of millions were dumb enough to sit on their new iPhones and bend them. A very, very small percentage of iPhone users had problems with iOS 8.0.1. It looks as if this is just another 'witch hunt' to find something to post on the rumor sites.
This is nothing more than another "click bait" story trying to make something out of nothing.
Nine people out of millions were dumb enough to sit on their new iPhones and bend them. A very, very small percentage of iPhone users had problems with iOS 8.0.1. It looks as if this is just another 'witch hunt' to find something to post on the rumor sites.
I own both a late 2013 15" rMBP and an early 2014 11" MBA. My router is an ASUS 68U. No connection issues with Mavericks. Problems began with Yosemite. Both of my computers have no issues with connections to the 2.4 GHz band. The 5GHz band is a different story.
- Late 2013 15" rMBP. Difficulty maintaining connection to 5 GHz in a variety of different ways: a dropping connection and cannot reconnect--reboot, dropping connection after sleep and cannot reconnect--reboot, can't connect after reboot. Seems different every time. I have tried all of the suggestions in the article. One of the posters mentioned changing the beacon interval on the router. Attempting that now to see if that improves the situation.
- Early 2014 11" MBP. No connections issues with 5 GHz band.
I tried to go about upgrading to Yosemite methodically. First I updated my MBA. When there were no issues after a couple of days I updated my more critical MBP. Gotcha. Can't believe these issues are so hardware dependent. Should have listened to Leo LaPort. Never upgrade to a new Apple x.x.0 operating system. Wait for the x.x.2 version to fix the bugs that the x.x.1 version created.
Cheers,
Don Barar
- Late 2013 15" rMBP. Difficulty maintaining connection to 5 GHz in a variety of different ways: a dropping connection and cannot reconnect--reboot, dropping connection after sleep and cannot reconnect--reboot, can't connect after reboot. Seems different every time. I have tried all of the suggestions in the article. One of the posters mentioned changing the beacon interval on the router. Attempting that now to see if that improves the situation.
- Early 2014 11" MBP. No connections issues with 5 GHz band.
I tried to go about upgrading to Yosemite methodically. First I updated my MBA. When there were no issues after a couple of days I updated my more critical MBP. Gotcha. Can't believe these issues are so hardware dependent. Should have listened to Leo LaPort. Never upgrade to a new Apple x.x.0 operating system. Wait for the x.x.2 version to fix the bugs that the x.x.1 version created.
Cheers,
Don Barar
Respectively not a witch hunt, these are real problems affecting real people, me included.
OT:
I like your signature, "Proud Apple fanboy since '77 ", back in college 1983 I learned assembly language programming on 6502 processor AppleII....
I've never owned a WinTel @ home, many Mac's since 1984 including 128k Sept-1984
how about these prices!
What's even worse is that my brand new Mini doesn't have the right LVD SCSI-connector to connect my $200000 disk array. Brand new and unusable from day one!
Your comment makes no sense because you're assuming my Mac Pro is very old. If you remember correctly, Apple didn't update the Mac Pros much for years. Therefor even recently sold Mac Pros before the new generation and the same age as iMacs and Minis that will work with these features, won't work for Apple's premium expensive machine.
That was my point. Obviously you missed it.
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I haven't used Final Cut Pro in quite awhile. I just found it strange that a working version in Mavericks just was totally disabled in Yosemite without explanation. I know I don't have the latest version, but I don't really need the latest version. Yosemite just totally bricks a very expensive piece of software without explanation from Apple.
As for Yahoo Messenger, they've already made a statement. They have no interest in updating Messenger for Mac so my response to that is to delete Yahoo from my Mac and my iPhone and tell them to hit the road.