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Some Power Users Are Unhappy With Lost Features in the New iWork
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I don't know enough about these apps but it's only been out a couple of days and Apple have obviously changed the UI to keep things simple BUT maybe a lot of the features are still there but just not in the places people expect.
Don't shoot me....just a thought?!
Don't shoot me....just a thought?!
Form over function yet again. iOS 7 has it all over. This reminds me of many of the iOS 7 calendar threads https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1650393/
They didn't just get rid of "power features"; they gutted the program. You can't even save a style that contains a bullet point list, for crying out loud.
Try it: create a bullet list, format it, then save as a style.
Then select some text and apply that style. It will indent and space it as you set it up, but it won't apply the bullets. Ridiculous.
Try it: create a bullet list, format it, then save as a style.
Then select some text and apply that style. It will indent and space it as you set it up, but it won't apply the bullets. Ridiculous.
Not a feature I've ever used, but it's like everything else: if you're accustomed to it, and it goes away, frustration will set in. I guess curiosity will get the better of me over the weekend. But for sure I will try it out with copies of documents, not originals!
So if I download (upgrade) the new version then my (current) old version would be put into a folder in my Application folder?? I'd still have both?
Yes, you do keep them in a separated folder.
Unfortunately, I have deleted them.
Luckily, I wasn't really using iWork for the particular reason of this thread. It has always been a laughable suite. The entire Microsoft Office department must be dancing and partying since the new iWork's release.
Just adding Pivot Tables in Numbers would fix this app a bunch. Next up, add some powerful scripting engine.
Unfortunately, I have deleted them.
Luckily, I wasn't really using iWork for the particular reason of this thread. It has always been a laughable suite. The entire Microsoft Office department must be dancing and partying since the new iWork's release.
Just adding Pivot Tables in Numbers would fix this app a bunch. Next up, add some powerful scripting engine.
Okay that's cool. I haven't updated to Mavericks yet anyway so I can only update iWorks once I do that. I always wait a couple updates before upgrading my OS.
A power user using iWork? That's like an architect using an Etch A Sketch
Put the crayons down and get some real work done.
Casually I'm an architect. So I think I'm a power user, Ok?
We use ArchiCad in the office, but we also do intense use of iWork, in a daily basis.
I make technical reports of hundreds of pages with Pages 09 that I simply can do with Pages 13. Only the lost of facing pages capability is enough to had it deleted of my HD
Where, o where, is MacLink Plus when you need it? (Retired with Snow Leopard, unfortunately).
Getting rid of Exoort to RTF? That's an industry standard! (I know, I know, Apple has never been one to follow industry-standards..... until 3 or 4 iterations later.)
Getting rid of Exoort to RTF? That's an industry standard! (I know, I know, Apple has never been one to follow industry-standards..... until 3 or 4 iterations later.)
That's not a full version of office though. They have a full version on the way that's customized for touch. It's code name Gemini.
Yes the new "power user" is anyone who does something with a computer other than web surfing, games and movies.
Well now. Your comment and handle led me do a bit of googling.
And: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/bob/clarisworks.php
A tip of the hat to you, sir. That stuff was waaay ahead of its time.
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Well, it's a pity Apple seems to have removed some power user features. At best, this is incompetent; at worst it's political (and internal to Apple). In terms of where iWork is heading however, I think a sense of perspective is required.
Firstly, some of you may be aware of certain problems caused by the launch of Safari. Microsoft responded to this with the end of life of IE for Mac. Good riddance, said anyone who'd didn't need to use moronic SAP on their Mac (or any other enterprise app that required IE at the time)! Lesson learned? You might not like Microsoft, but sometimes you need them.
Second, because of the first, I believe iWork will never be the equal of Office. Trust me when I say Apple can ill afford Microsoft pulling office from OSX. If anything, Apple would love to see Office delivered through the App Store (even without revenue going to Apple). There are too many Mac users who use a PC at work and take their work home!
If anything, Apple's moves in the office space are about denying business to Google Docs. Google's office suite is great, as long as you're needs are light. As long as you fall into the set on part of the Venn diagram known as 'most people', and you don't need advanced features, like automatic heading numbers, the Google word processor is fine. The whole iCloud integration and web editing is IMHO about not bleeding potential iWork customers to Google.
Well, it's a pity Apple seems to have removed some power user features. At best, this is incompetent; at worst it's political (and internal to Apple). In terms of where iWork is heading however, I think a sense of perspective is required.
Firstly, some of you may be aware of certain problems caused by the launch of Safari. Microsoft responded to this with the end of life of IE for Mac. Good riddance, said anyone who'd didn't need to use moronic SAP on their Mac (or any other enterprise app that required IE at the time)! Lesson learned? You might not like Microsoft, but sometimes you need them.
Second, because of the first, I believe iWork will never be the equal of Office. Trust me when I say Apple can ill afford Microsoft pulling office from OSX. If anything, Apple would love to see Office delivered through the App Store (even without revenue going to Apple). There are too many Mac users who use a PC at work and take their work home!
If anything, Apple's moves in the office space are about denying business to Google Docs. Google's office suite is great, as long as you're needs are light. As long as you fall into the set on part of the Venn diagram known as 'most people', and you don't need advanced features, like automatic heading numbers, the Google word processor is fine. The whole iCloud integration and web editing is IMHO about not bleeding potential iWork customers to Google.
As do many of us, when forced by my employers. Thankfully some of us have been liberated from that world on our personal computers with iWork, Google docs, or Open office..
Office is the best thing that MS does for the end users in my opinion. I can not imagine a life without Excel
This isn't about people having trouble adjusting to new software, (Hell, i have adjusted to everything software since the 70's!) it's about removing features without replacing them or removing the most basic things of said software.
I would never call myself a "power user" as it sounds terribly lame, but i do require that my applications are able to perform such simple task, even if said task is to simply move page 5 in my newsletter to the front.
But now i can't do that. I'll have to export it and then change it, which is just some extra steps. I guess i could live with that.
But why?
I would never call myself a "power user" as it sounds terribly lame, but i do require that my applications are able to perform such simple task, even if said task is to simply move page 5 in my newsletter to the front.
But now i can't do that. I'll have to export it and then change it, which is just some extra steps. I guess i could live with that.
But why?
Ah man, that was such a great program back in the day. I used to make great maps using that software. Good one, bob. You brought quite a silly grin to my face.Y'all miss ClarisWorks yet?
I truly hope this latest incarnation of iWorks isn't final. I get what Apple thought was a good move but wish they could've left the bells & whistles Mac (non-iOS) version intact. Hopefully (and yeah, I may dreaming of when pigs fly), they are paying attention to this lesser than favorable feedback. Microsoft sure borked Excel when they removed macros but eventually put them back after the uproar it caused. Now lets see if Apple can be smart and give back what they took away. The free software offer was great but I would pay for an updated, fully functioning Pages app.
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Disappointing philosophy
I get that they want to possibly remove features that less than 1% of the people may use for whatever reason (commonality among platforms, size, performance, whatever...); however, they should simply remove those features from the main product and make them some type of add-in package. They shouldn't reduce the overall feature set down to the lowest common denominator person that may use the program or try to force people into only using the program a certain way for design aesthetic.
I get that they want to possibly remove features that less than 1% of the people may use for whatever reason (commonality among platforms, size, performance, whatever...); however, they should simply remove those features from the main product and make them some type of add-in package. They shouldn't reduce the overall feature set down to the lowest common denominator person that may use the program or try to force people into only using the program a certain way for design aesthetic.
A power user is someone who uses a computer the way I use it. Everyone else, isn't.
A handy, dandy one-size-fits everything definition.
You're welcome!
Yes, that is another way of saying that a power user is who actually uses a computer as in;
Full-featured applications.
Ability to upgrade components.
Needs to plug in Ethernet, Firewire or eSATA.
And maybe appreciates music and movie quality not available on iTunes!