Some Power Users Are Unhappy With Lost Features in the New iWork

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    A number of power users of Apple's Pages application have expressed concern over what they see as a step backward in the just-released upgrade of iWork. One blogger, Pierre Igot, called the new release of Pages an "unmitigated disaster", and there is a 26-page thread on the Apple Support forums and several threads on the MacRumors forums examining features that have been removed from the various iWork applications.

    From Igot's post:
    It appears Apple's intention was to increase both usability and cross-platform compatibility of Pages across the OS X, iOS, and iWork in iCloud, at the expense of some more powerful features.

    Amongst the missing features, Pages has lost a number of templates, the ability to export to .rtf file formats, keyboard shortcuts to paragraph and character styes, and AppleScript support is not working properly.

    This isn't the first time that Apple has seen criticisms from power users over an updated product release. The company was hammered by power users of Final Cut Pro X when it was released in 2011, because a number of essential features were completely missing from the software. Apple offered refunds to unhappy customers and launched a new marketing campaign to win back skeptical users after adding many of the features that were requested.

    Of course, the new release is a free update to a consumer-focused software product where many of the missing features were likely never used by the majority of Apple's customers, so the concerns of power users may fall on deaf ears. Igot does note that the company -- perhaps intentionally -- set aside iWork '09 applications in a folder on computers that upgraded to the new versions, so users who prefer the older Pages app can continue to use it, albeit without the iCloud and cross-platform features in the new release.

    John Gruber believes Apple may be willing to sacrifice overall functionality to create parity across the iOS, OS X and web versions of Pages, Numbers and Keynote over the short-term. However, Apple has not yet given any indication as to what future versions of iWork could look like -- or if they will eventually gain some of the features missing in the new version.

    Upset Pages users would be well-served to give Apple feedback on its website.

    Article Link: Some Power Users Are Unhappy With Lost Features in the New iWork
  2. ZacNicholson macrumors 6502a


    Jun 25, 2011
  3. Hastings101 macrumors 68020


    Jun 22, 2010
  4. 840quadra Moderator


    Staff Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Twin Cities Minnesota
    The inability to export to RTF is kinda big. I wouldn't consider it a power user feature, it is a nice option when working with cross platform applications.
  5. Sky Blue, Oct 25, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2013

    Sky Blue Guest

    Sky Blue

    Jan 8, 2005
    Expected really, Apple software always seems to lose more advanced functions with newer iterations. I've had a poke about in pages and numbers, haven't seen the loss of any features that I use.. yet.
  6. slrandall macrumors 6502

    Jun 15, 2011
    Hopefully now that there exists some semblance of parity between the iOS, iCloud, and Mac versions, the feature set of all three will begin to expand.
  7. Mr-Stabby macrumors 6502

    Sep 1, 2004
    Remember that, like Final Cut Pro X, this was a 'from the ground up' rewrite of the software. It is never going to have all the features of the original in the first version. But (and i'm no Apple fanboy believe me) you have to say that Apple did a great job at getting Final Cut Pro X up to speed in a very short time, and I went from a FCPX hater to using it as my primary NLE. I imagine iWork will get its features back eventually. But unlike FCPX, they haven't shut out the previous version of the software for people who still need it. So callllm down everyone, everything will be ok :D
  8. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
    iWork on desktop still has a looooooong way to go before it reaches MS Office standards

    I'm surprised iWork for iOS hardly updated anything but add a new coat of paint

    I will patiently wait for a real version of MS Office for iOS
  9. theheadguy macrumors 65816

    Apr 26, 2005
    Someone's complaining? They must be a MR forum troll!! Get your pitchforks!
  10. Cougarcat macrumors 604

    Sep 19, 2003
    For me, it's not so much the features that have been removed (there are some, though) it's that the interface usability is a huge step back, especially on a small screen.
  11. AustinIllini macrumors G3


    Oct 20, 2011
    Austin, TX
    Make it simple and powerful. These things are not mutually exclusive.
  12. applefanDrew macrumors 65816

    Jul 17, 2010
    I'm obviously not a power user since I haven't noticed any missing features.
  13. xNYMetsx macrumors 6502


    Jul 17, 2013
  14. street.cory macrumors 6502


    Oct 13, 2009
  15. phinsup macrumors 6502


    Sep 19, 2008
    Las vegas
    I haven't had time to mess with the new version, the old version unfortunately was missing some key features necessary for me. That said I think this makes sense. Apple is giving the end user a turnkey computer, most people will have everything they need for day to day use when they leave the store with their new Mac.

    Simplifying for that purpose is probably not a bad idea.
  16. Zachari macrumors regular


    Feb 8, 2012
    Washington, DC
  17. britboyj macrumors 6502a

    Apr 8, 2009
    And for all those features that have been removed, it's still more functional and better to use than Office.

    Except Excel. All power to the pivot tables.
  18. bp1000 macrumors 65816

    Jul 7, 2011
    I know this isn't what everyone needs but still no support for spreadsheets with more than 65536 rows.

    Pretty bad for a 64bit enviroment.
  19. 840quadra Moderator


    Staff Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Twin Cities Minnesota
    As do many of us, when forced by my employers. Thankfully some of us have been liberated from that world on our personal computers with iWork, Google docs, or Open office. ;) .
  20. iLilana macrumors 6502a


    May 5, 2003
    Alberta, Canada
  21. Parasprite macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2013
    Today I learned that preinstalled templates are a power user feature.
  22. jlgolson Contributing Editor


    Jun 2, 2011
    Durango, CO
  23. Chastepe macrumors member

    Aug 27, 2010
    Derby, UK
    We have seen the play before - I think this happens because apps might have been rewritten. They start with a clean slate and they will add those missing features again in a future update. Classic example is FCX, in each update they add a bit of those Pro missing features.
  24. Lancer09, Oct 25, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2013

    Lancer09 macrumors newbie

    Oct 25, 2013
    Microsoft's Office 365 is better. Sorry Apple but your software is great when its free but only because it's free.
  25. Parasprite macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2013
    And then there's QuickTime.

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