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Some Retina MacBook Pro Users Experiencing Display 'Ghosting'
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Maybe Apple is being hunted! Maybe the stupid ghost hunters that my sisters like to watch will do an exorcist on Apple equipment! LOL
Sorry, but I couldn't resist.
Sorry, but I couldn't resist.
This absolutely has to do with the ips panel. IPS panels are the most prone to image retention and stuck pixels. The least likely are VA panels (haven't seen many in mobile devices, they should be used especially s-pva which in my opinion has a superior picture and viewing angles than ips) as their pixels are off by default and charge is applied to open them up to display white which is the opposite of ips and TN which apply charge to pixels to display black.
All the top tier lcd televisions use VA panels (s-pva being the best) rather than ips because for media and everything but printwork they are vastly superior to IPS. VA panels are also quite good with printwork as well. EIZO uses them in a lot of their expensive monitors. Much better than TN and better contrast than both tn and IPS.
All the top tier lcd televisions use VA panels (s-pva being the best) rather than ips because for media and everything but printwork they are vastly superior to IPS. VA panels are also quite good with printwork as well. EIZO uses them in a lot of their expensive monitors. Much better than TN and better contrast than both tn and IPS.
They're not going to fix the issue. They're going to give you random replacements until you either get lucky, or get fed up and just accept it. It's not nearly as nice as Apple fixing the root cause and removing the defect from their production.
They never fixed the iMac yellow screens, just unboxed a yellow banded one 3 weeks ago. New iPad has been on the market for 3 months now and the screens are still a total crapshoot.
At least this makes a change from the usual Apple Brown Stain(TM) which accompanies most of their latest products.
Turn off the lights, and look at the screen while chanting "bloody mary" three times...
Rotf
I love this forum LOL...I, too, see dead people on my iPad 3.
On a serious note, I really hope those who have problems get their machines fixed/replaced as soon as possible.
I love this forum LOL...I, too, see dead people on my iPad 3.
On a serious note, I really hope those who have problems get their machines fixed/replaced as soon as possible.
I love this forum LOL...I, too, see dead people on my iPad 3.
On a serious note, I really hope those who have problems get their machines fixed/replaced as soon as possible.
LOL - but I feel sorry for people who don't understand the reference. (Mainly because they missed a very good movie.)
It's because people are too ****ing picky. One small imperfection or tint and the assume their device is broken.
This is a problem??
Like this is really good for my OCD, sitting in the dark watching a ghost. Admittedly when you pay the bucks you want perfection. Go for it.
Like this is really good for my OCD, sitting in the dark watching a ghost. Admittedly when you pay the bucks you want perfection. Go for it.
What makes you think there's some root cause beyond yield problems with screens ?
Do you know something the rest of us including the guy who wrote the article doesn't ?
Then I guess you'll have to pay for the repair.
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Funny, apple doesn't make displays. Samsung and LG do. Funny how no one blames them.
Older pva panels had ghosting (because they had slow response times) is not the same as image retention. Image retention is most common on IPS displays. I actually wish the retina macbook pro used a VA panel. I think they look better than ips panels. My dell 2408wfp is much nicer than the u2410 I returned and the u2412/u2711/thunderbolt displays I have used.
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If Apple wants to pretend to wear the mantle of "premium brand", then Apple needs to stand behind the product (and improve the quality control so that the former is rarely necessary).
Step up to the plate, Tim, or go back to the dugout.
If you paid for it with a credit card, most likely your credit card extends the warranty by up to 1 year. You should contact your credit card immediately and ask about the details.
Apple could start by having a 2012 level LCD quality assurance program. Their ******** "it's within tolerance to have a couple of bright pixels" policy is dung. Even Dell has moved to a "no bright pixel" policy on their LCDs.
Aren't you Mr. Helpful tonight...nice replies.
As per your display beef, um, once Apple slaps their logo on it and sells it, it's Apple's problem. Every vendor (Apple or Sony for example) works with the underlying technology provider (in this case Samsung or LG) to SPEC OUT what is to be done, agree on limitations & potential risk/problems, agree to monetary terms, agree to defect terms, agree to production timing terms and more.
So no...blaming Samsung or LG for Apple's problems is not correct. If/when Apple decides to look into this problem and internally assign blame, Samsung may or may not have to honor their numerous "terms". If the ghosting is due to, for example, Apple's assembly process where the assemblers are not adhering to the assembly process, then that's a beef between Apple and the assembly plant...not Samsung.
But is it still an "engineering marvel" after these faults show up?
Inquiring minds want to know....
The problem is apple is known to buy binned parts. (don't pass QC completely) There 1800 dollar 15 inch macbook pro uses a binned gpu (512mb out of 1024mb with half of it disabled because it failed to pass the hardware check). The mac mini gpu option is even worse with 75% of the ram binned. It only has 256mb enabled out of 1024mb. That means up to 75 percent of the ram is bad. I have no doubt they also are buying binned lcd panels. While not all the binned lcd panels may have issues they are not as guaranteed to be free of defects like grade A/A- panels are like dell uses in the ultrasharp line. Apple quite frankly is using a lot of hardware parts in their lineup that even budget machines would be afraid to use. I haven't seen a dedicated gpu in a machine with 256mb of ram for several years other than the mac mini and pretty much every laptop with dedicated graphics has 1gb. Even 500-600 dollar machines. Its unacceptable that apple is using binned parts in a machine that costs nearly 2 grand.
Funny how when retina displays were announced, everyone was claiming how innovative Apple was and didn't want to give any credit to Samsung and LG. And now that there are some defects, folks want to assign the blame to Samsung and LG?
You fanboys can't have it both ways.
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Interesting...but can you cite a reference that states Apple is actually using binned parts? This is the first I've heard of this.
