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Some Retina MacBook Pro Users Experiencing Display 'Ghosting'

WestonHarvey1 said:
The kinks aren't going to be worked out until we get a brand new screen technology that's idiot proof or Apple starts dumping more money into QC. All Apple displays have been a lottery for years.

You either accept what you get, or go through the painful process of swapping it, possibly more than once, until you get one you can live with. Just be thankful that you only have to lug a laptop back to the store and not a 27" iMac or Thunderbolt Display.
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Very true. It didn't used to be that way. When Apple had the previous generation CCFL LCD's in 20/23/30" they were phenomenal. I had a 23" that lasted me 8 years, and a 30" that lasted 7 (I only replaced it with two 24" LED LCD's).

Ever since they started selling stripped down iMac LED LCD panels with the 24" model a few years ago it was a crap shoot. I purchased two for my Mac Pro, aside from the cables being too short and having to spend ~$60 on Belkin USB/Mini DP extension cables, it took ~ 5 displays until I had two that didn't suffer from banding, bleeding, dead pixels and/or uneven color tones.
 
Big-TDI-Guy said:
Image persistence has been around forever.

It may be due to the smaller size of the pixels themselves, less liquid in a given area - takes longer to "rotate".

Perhaps retina displays are limited in how much current can be put across the thinner matrix. (smaller pixels - smaller conductors - lower current threshold)

It's not unique to the retina, however.

Every tech has a drawback, plasma - burn in, LCD - persistence, OLED - Mura.

Usually, LCD persistence is only temporary, and will go away after a while, not quite the same when it comes to CRT, Plasma or OLED.
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Actually most plasma image retention has little to do with uneven wear, which would lean toward permanent. Generally it's caused by a residual electrical charge in the cells and it goes away relatively quickly.
 
KnightWRX said:
So a few units have a defect covered under the standard warranty ? And this is news ? :eek:
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Well...it is Apple. :rolleyes:

Otherwise, I have to agree that the signs might point to the technology and hardware itself. It was painful playing games on my PVA-based iMac Core Duo but damn it was a fine panel in every other sense.
 
TimTheEnchanter said:
The bigger question is, why nitpick someones grammar on casual forums?
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I could not agree more :)

Speaking for myself, when I compose a post I do so fairly rapidly, and only give it a cursory look before submission.

After all, it's not like doing my thesis in college where it _did_ make a difference.

In fact, to be honest, of the several forums (totally unrelated to Apple) I participate in, this is the only one where the fanboys are so self absorbed and narcissistic that they critique everything from a simple typo, to grammar.

Poor lost souls.... :eek:
 
Yes bring on the retina iMac LOL

Of course if you're on the cutting edge you might get cut, bleed or something like that, yes the next gen will be better or maybe there is a manufacturing issue to be worked out?

This is yes another reason I'll be getting the 2012 iMac which is more likely to be sorted, just like the G5 PM I have which was the last model before they when to multi-core CPUs and just before they went Intel. The 3Gs iPhone I got was 6 months before the 4 came out.

I'm sure Apple has this under control, it will be interesting to see just how many have this problem, it's like the iPhone antenna issue all over again.
 
Lancer said:
I'm sure Apple has this under control, it will be interesting to see just how many have this problem, it's like the iPhone antenna issue all over again.
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Uh ? Except this is covered under the warranty and so no one will have this problem after they've walked into an Apple store/called Apple care and get their unit fixed/exchanged ? :rolleyes:
 
While some people may wish to make a big deal out of this, and predict or act like it's the first instance of a larger problem, I can assure you it's not. This is quite likely nothing more than a bad batch of display panels, that will all be replaced under warranty.

The only thing Apple is guilty of, is taking so many years to catch up with the other premier laptops like ThinkPads, that have had IPS (in-plane switching) displays since 1996. The only difference between the hi-res IPS displays used on professional workstation ThinkPads and the new MBP is the higher resolution that Apple insisted on including.

IPS has been around for years. In 1995 Samsung perfected the optical patterning technique that enabled a multi-domain LCD to be used in mass quantities.
 
Piggie said:
It is a shame this is happening.

It is strange, Screen issues seem to always be Apple's weak point. I don't know why this is. You would think after year of screen issues on earlier Apple products, and the fact that it's the screen that is, by it's very nature, in your face, they would do everything they can do to make sure future products do not suffer any noticeable flaws.

And yet, screen problems are almost guaranteed now on a new product.
It's a shame.
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If the Apple fanbois didn't accept these issues, Apple would do something. As it is, they don't really fix the issues (e.g., Imacs and iPad 3); they just wait for the fanbois to say it's not a big deal.

To have these issues with something that's touted as the most beautiful screen and to cost so much is ridiculous for a company that has $100 billion in reserve.
 
My iPad 2 does the same. My was replaced (wouldn't turn on) and the replacement after a while started to do the same.

Looks like as the panel ages it goes slower, in fast games it gets ghosting to a point that makes my head hurt. But since I don't really use the ipad for games I don't care much.
 
I have similar ghosting on a 2008 iMac 24" .. It's sort of annoying but you learn to live with it. It only started happening last year though.. Does make me wonder if all the rMBPs could deteriorate to do the same. Scary.
 
TimTheEnchanter said:
Or is it proper to state, "is by knowing their true definitions"

:rolleyes:

The bigger question is, why nitpick someones grammar on casual forums?
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As I posted this was from a website and funny enough they can't do things right either:)

To answer the bigger question:

Why is it wrong trying to point out the incorrect usage of words?

Are all people afraid to learn something?

English is actually not my native language and I make plenty of mistakes, but I do like to learn the correct usage of words and spelling in any language.
 
hugodrax said:
This is why it is always best to wait 6 months on new Apple products before buying.
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Nonsense! Still, the iMacs and iPads being released suffer from serious screen issues. Of course, after a few months, then, so many say that they have learned to live with it. If you can't live with it, you have ocd. Same bs.
 
nicuni said:
A little off topic, but I think the most disappointing part about this new Mac is the lack of a CD drive. I would be willing to take my chances with the new retina display, but I really don't want a notebook without a disc drive. It's stupid. I thought that was what the Air was for...
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yeh, I'd totally get one if I could get it with a tape deck.
 
If I had the money and if I could find one in stock, I'd buy one in a second. However, I'll just make myself sound cool so...

This is why I don't buy the first batch of new models. Sucks for all you beta testers. :rolleyes: :cool:
 
Rogifan said:
well let's see how many tech sites pick up on this (and they will with it being front page news on apple blog/rumor sites) and turn it into screen gate. And all the fandroid and M$ posters will chime in with how the rMBP is overrated, too expensive, can't be upgraded, missing feature x, y, z, etc. :rolleyes:
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fandroid and M$?

thanks for confirming you are still in high school
 
rhinosrcool said:
If the Apple fanbois didn't accept these issues, Apple would do something. As it is, they don't really fix the issues
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Wait, how is replacing/fixing the display not fixing the issue exactly ? And people going to Apple stores/calling Apple care to get the display warrantied is "accepting the issue" ... how ?

Do people even read the article ?
 
nicuni said:
A little off topic, but I think the most disappointing part about this new Mac is the lack of a CD drive. I would be willing to take my chances with the new retina display, but I really don't want a notebook without a disc drive. It's stupid. I thought that was what the Air was for...
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If you think about it, the majority of people never use the optical drive in their computer. Most people just opt to buy the external for when they need it. That being said, there are people who actually use the drive for customer projects if that is their job, and that could pose a small problem, but one that is easily remedied by the external SuperDrive.
 
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