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In terms of Web Browser marketshare, iOS (not just the iPhone) is not the most popular.

Every Android device might be different, but the browser they use is the same - that's the significant part.

You don't need to target an HTC Desire or a Samsung Galaxy S2 - you just target the Android browser.

Just like how you don't need to treat an iPod touch differently if you're developing a web site for an iPhone.



Believe what you want, but the facts say otherwise.

the facts say that while the iPhone itself is not the most popular, iOS is

http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-ww-monthly-201110-201110-bar

you can change the graph to only show october, and clicking bar graph makes it much easier to read. You'll see that iPhone is a little below android, but adding iPod in makes it around 3% more than android. iPad is not counted here I don't believe, and I don't know if the android number includes android tablets or not, but it is apparent the iOS platform sees more mobile browser use than android, although not by much

Of course, I've heard that some android phones are actually out of the box set up to identify themselves as mobile safari, so that could change things (but I don't know how true that is)
 
You have to consider: if the owner of the website doesn't think they will get much mobile traffic, they won't make it mobile friendly. Especially if its a business website. Websites can cost a lot ( in terms of time and money ) to create and maintain, particularly if you have to support many browser types / platforms ( mobile, desktop etc) ; IE is the worse offender.

How hard is that to understand?

Its not being an "*******" to mobile users, its simply priorities / economics.

If you have a problem with a website, email them.

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It shouldn't matter. The way I see it is, I should be able to use any device I want to view your website. It is like saying I'm not allowed to watch NBC unless I have a tv made by RCA. You don't need to make the website mobile optimized, but you don't need to be an ******* to mobile users either.

Having an unclosable ad where I can't view your website makes it so I'll never go to that site again. What do the webmasters want me to do, write the URL down and then go to my Mac and visit it when I get home?
 
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Web developers are able to see what devices are targeting there sites. If I am a web developer for a website that encounters 1 IOS user for every 100,000...I'm going to pay most of my attention to the majority until I have the time and the budget to look at why the few are having issues or come up with a way to easily generate a mobile page from the main one. Got to be able to prioritize.
 
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Even Apple's site isn't terribly iPhone friendly. The top navigation bar on the site is too tiny.
 
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Even Apple's site isn't terribly iPhone friendly. The top navigation bar on the site is too tiny.

At least with that I can zoom in to click on the buttons, and every BASIC function pretty much works on the Apple site.

As I have said earlier, I don't care if the site is Mobile Optimized, I care if the site WORKS. And having an ad that pops up in the middle of the screen is NOT what I call working. What is the point of a desktop class browser, if you're going to treat it like third class?
 
And how do they manage that? By using Flash? :D
lol@flash, HTML5 is the future and tons of websites already support it (even youtube has a HTML5 beta going).

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Even Apple's site isn't terribly iPhone friendly. The top navigation bar on the site is too tiny.
No reason for it to be. There is an Apple Store app.
 
the facts say that while the iPhone itself is not the most popular, iOS is

http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-ww-monthly-201110-201110-bar

you can change the graph to only show october, and clicking bar graph makes it much easier to read. You'll see that iPhone is a little below android, but adding iPod in makes it around 3% more than android. iPad is not counted here I don't believe, and I don't know if the android number includes android tablets or not, but it is apparent the iOS platform sees more mobile browser use than android, although not by much

Of course, I've heard that some android phones are actually out of the box set up to identify themselves as mobile safari, so that could change things (but I don't know how true that is)

Several points:

1) I don't think it's fair to include the iPad or iPod touch in this debate, not least because the iPad has a different sized screen.

2) The site the OP is complaining about is based in the UK. In the UK, the largest mobile web marketshare is held by Blackberry (according to the same result set you used). That is even when you include the iPad and iPod touch.

3) Worldwide, iOS and Android are just about neck and neck now in terms of mobile browser marketshare, but even with that, neither one of them dwarfs the other competitors. There's no clear winner among them.
 
I wonder if the webmaster is even paying attention. When I tried to work with some web people (getting them to make a client a site), they can be downright stubborn. I tell them to make sure that the site works on iPhones and iPads, they tell me "Why? Not everyone uses these devices"...I say "You should always design for the lowest common denominator"...as a user, I shouldn't have to care about what my device is to go on your site...sheesh some web developers.

As some one who used to work on a web site it was a pet peeve of mine about Cingular's site that they developed it for one web browser on one computer (You had to use I.E. on a PC if you wanted to pay your bill online as the web site would not display properly on anything else. I had a PC but I preferred my Mac and I hate IE and i hated having to turn on my PC just to pay my Cingular bill).

I used to rant about how frikkin incompetent their web design team was (You don't just design for one web browser, you have to realize that there are several different ones out there and make sure your web page works on all of them). It annoyed me enough if they hadn't changed it by the time my contract was up I was seriously thinking of changing cellphone companies (they did fix it in a year and then I was completely happy with them. Still even have, well AT&T now but never changed).

But yeah, this just reminds me of ranting about that (and how I think this is something that should instantly occur to any web editor that is not so short sighted as to only think people are viewing their web page on the same thing the web editor chooses).
 
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