I followed that link, but can't find instructions on how to get Apple to blacklist devices.
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Someone (Craigslist of course) is willing to sell me an iPad Pro 9.7" for $400
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I followed that link, but can't find instructions on how to get Apple to blacklist devices.
There is no such thing. Finding a dead article from 5 years ago doesn't prove anything.
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Ask him exactly why he can't return it to Amazon, straight up. Say there is a 2 week return period on the item. If he gives you a legitimate reason, buy the iPad. Otherwise, stay away.
As of today, here is the screenshot I just took of the tool to use if your serial number is activation locked including iPod Touch which has no cellular capabilities.
The website is https://www.icloud.com/activationlock/
Now on the other hand there is a thing we were all raised with, the ability to know right and wrong. Buying stolen merchandise is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. The $200 you think you save now could end up being a brick if the serial number gets blacklisted. But if you are ok owning stolen merchandise, that's your decision to make. Please don't try to convince everyone that there is justification on why it's ok to own it.
The website is https://www.icloud.com/activationlock/
Now on the other hand there is a thing we were all raised with, the ability to know right and wrong. Buying stolen merchandise is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. The $200 you think you save now could end up being a brick if the serial number gets blacklisted. But if you are ok owning stolen merchandise, that's your decision to make. Please don't try to convince everyone that there is justification on why it's ok to own it.
Nobody is justifying anything...As of today, here is the screenshot I just took of the tool to use if your serial number is activation locked including iPod Touch which has no cellular capabilities.
The website is https://www.icloud.com/activationlock/
Now on the other hand there is a thing we were all raised with, the ability to know right and wrong. Buying stolen merchandise is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. The $200 you think you save now could end up being a brick if the serial number gets blacklisted. But if you are ok owning stolen merchandise, that's your decision to make. Please don't try to convince everyone that there is justification on why it's ok to own it.
Well, are you sure you replied to the correct thread...?
I'm only ever a "Seller" on Craigslist. I'm constantly amazed at how people will pay a lot of cash for merchandise purchased from Craigslist. But they do! I've sold my used iMac's (2), MacBook Pro, iPhones (many), iPads (many), Camera's, Lenses, etc... Anyone buying used merchandise from me should consider themselves lucky...as I really take good care of my stuff! It's always a win-win situation.
However, I've never bought anything from anyone on Craigslist. Seems a bit too risky (for me). Personally, as a buyer I'd rather spend a few extra bucks and buy new and avoid all of the "unknown".
That being said: There must be a way to check the serial#/IMEI with Apple to see if this is a "Stolen" iPad? If you've done your homework and everything checks out okay....why not go for it!
Agreed with you but I rather buy refurbished equipment which usually looks like new but at a better price. My iPad mini 3 is refurbished and I bought Apple Care for it and I do not have any issues!
Question somewhat similar to this thread topic. Got a guy in the local area selling the ipad pro 256gb 9.7 for 700 bucks. Says its sealed. Asked him/her if it's ok if I open it and activate it on my laptop upon meeting up. If I can connect to itunes and set up the device, does that mean it's a clean (aka non blacklisted) device? Does the blacklisting happen immediately or maybe some months down the road?
This doesn't seem like too extreme of a price, by any means. Heck, maybe he'll meet you at/near an Apple Store? Sometimes suggesting that makes the 'bad guys' stop responding.
FWIW (OP here) I ended up not pulling the trigger on the Pro and got a great offer the next day on a Mini 4. So I guess karma paid off.
Actually the CL listing did specifially state to meet by a starbucks, and they did agree to let me open and activate. So...I guess the option is to see if it activates and verify the serial on the apple site before handing money over.
Definitely sketchy. Likely to be stolen. I can't see any reason why Amazon wouldn't accept an unopened product. It'd be more reasonable and realistic if he just opened the box and sold it that way lol.
As of today, here is the screenshot I just took of the tool to use if your serial number is activation locked including iPod Touch which has no cellular capabilities.
The website is https://www.icloud.com/activationlock/
Now on the other hand there is a thing we were all raised with, the ability to know right and wrong. Buying stolen merchandise is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. The $200 you think you save now could end up being a brick if the serial number gets blacklisted. But if you are ok owning stolen merchandise, that's your decision to make. Please don't try to convince everyone that there is justification on why it's ok to own it.
This is an iCloud activation lock. This is NOT blacklisted. There is no way to blacklist from Apple. If the iPad was never activated on iCloud there would be no way to "blacklist'' the device, except for maybe a cellular version but that would be through the carriers.
Ah I always thought maybe Apple got a list of serials that are no good and they black list those which makes those devices unable to be activated. But that's a ton of work...though nothing Apple can't afford.
Nope. Blacklists are solely beneficial for carriers. Apple doesn't really care.
Looks like the iPad hasn't been registered, yet, and therefore not even turned on. So no iCloud/find my iPad lockout, but I'm wondering if this is an LTE/cellular version? Maybe bought under subsidy? Just curious why this is so cheap....
I've had a lost/stolen Apple product back in 2014, and I've followed on Apple's website and reported to my local authorities. However, when I look up the serial number online, it does not show up as blacklisted.
Stolen Apple Product protocol
There do not appear to be any other instructions beyond this, but my Mac's serial (C02MF14DFGYY) is recorded on the report. What is supposed to happen from here?
I've had a lost/stolen Apple product back in 2014, and I've followed on Apple's website and reported to my local authorities. However, when I look up the serial number online, it does not show up as blacklisted.
Stolen Apple Product protocol
There do not appear to be any other instructions beyond this, but my Mac's serial (C02MF14DFGYY) is recorded on the report. What is supposed to happen from here?
A wifi model would be fine regardless if legit or stolen I imagine? Since there's no carrier attached.
I've done this with a mac mini before.
I've also met with someone with a sealed phone in a similar situation. I told him I wouldn't buy it until I can validate I can activate it. After removing the plastic and opening the phone I tried to activate it and it was already locked. He was just as surprised as I was.
What good comes from asking him/her why they are selling it?
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I have both bought and sold many Apple electronics on Craig's List and have not had any problems. You got to do your homework and be smart but I prefer it over any of the other methods. Want to meet a scammer, go to eBay!
Actually, with a police report (especially if it's a tracked batch nicked on it's way to a reseller and insurance companies are paying out), they will make a note that the device is stolen and police will be informed if it's ever presented for repair, etc. Apple don't maintain a blacklist and won't stop a phone being activated (that's down to the carriers), but a phone can be marked as "deny service", which cannot be overridden by Store staff or AppleCare.
I once had someone come in with an iPod which they'd bought "from a local shop" (as always). When I typed the serial number into MG it came up with a message stating that the device was stolen, to keep hold of the device, deny service and to contact the authorities. Turns out it was a display model that was stolen from our store a few weeks beforehand.
You'll be surprised at how much information is available about a device to store staff. They can see the first activated network, the current activated network, lock status, when it was first activated, when it was first purchased (Apple-bought) or when it was shipped to a retailer (auth resellers). They can even see which shop it was sent to, and in which town/city (e.g. it will show that the phone was shipped to the Apple Store, Brighton, on 01/01/2016, sold (shipped to, if a reseller) on 05/01/2016 and activated on EE on 06/01/2016).
For an Apple-sold device, a phone with a ship-date and activation date with no POS date will ring alarm bells. That and the "service denied" message which cannot be overridden if a device is marked as such. You'd be surprised how cheeky thieves can be. Before the days of activation lock, after an influx of stolen phones which "would not power on" and always "bought from eBay or a local shop", we actually had a process for testing suspicious phones who's names didn't match the person at the appointment and "didn't power on", using a multimeter, to see if they'd been microwaved.
I once had someone come in with an iPod which they'd bought "from a local shop" (as always). When I typed the serial number into MG it came up with a message stating that the device was stolen, to keep hold of the device, deny service and to contact the authorities. Turns out it was a display model that was stolen from our store a few weeks beforehand.
You'll be surprised at how much information is available about a device to store staff. They can see the first activated network, the current activated network, lock status, when it was first activated, when it was first purchased (Apple-bought) or when it was shipped to a retailer (auth resellers). They can even see which shop it was sent to, and in which town/city (e.g. it will show that the phone was shipped to the Apple Store, Brighton, on 01/01/2016, sold (shipped to, if a reseller) on 05/01/2016 and activated on EE on 06/01/2016).
For an Apple-sold device, a phone with a ship-date and activation date with no POS date will ring alarm bells. That and the "service denied" message which cannot be overridden if a device is marked as such. You'd be surprised how cheeky thieves can be. Before the days of activation lock, after an influx of stolen phones which "would not power on" and always "bought from eBay or a local shop", we actually had a process for testing suspicious phones who's names didn't match the person at the appointment and "didn't power on", using a multimeter, to see if they'd been microwaved.