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Hamoodi

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Aug 29, 2010
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We were in the mall, and we were walking around for awhile so we decided to sit down on those black massage chairs. I guess his iPhone slid out of his pocket and someone stole it. After many calls to it to find it, someone picked up and then hung up. Then proceeded to shut off his phone. But his mom called ATT and canceled the Data plan but luckily he only payed $50 for the phone. I am SUPER-PARANOID with my iPhone as well as all my electronics and if that happened to me I would have a HEART ATTACK :D . But this is a just a story for you guys lol.
 
Yeah I'd be really pissed myself. I have the findmyiphone app and an SMS based one on my iPhone 4 but you never know.
 
That sucks, the worst is when you wear sweatpants you have to be on your guard cause my iPhone would always slide out of my pocket
 
Sounds more like he lost it.

Anyway be interesting to see what happens with the replacement. Unless some magic insurance it will be at least a couple hundred to replace, and you are still tied into that contract.
 
sounds like he lost it to me, my cousin just lost his iPhone 4, fell out of his pocket he thinks when he was getting out of he car.

called the phone, the person who found it already turned it off
 
Get the IMEI blacklisted. Won't get your phone back but at least it will be useless.
 
Don't spend your money on one if it's that big a deal for you. It's only a darn phone.
 
If he is in the US this will not work. Carriers here do not blacklist IMEIs for some reason.

I would think it could do with the fact that phones are resold, so blacklisting IMEIs after a sale could cause problems.
 
I would think it could do with the fact that phones are resold, so blacklisting IMEIs after a sale could cause problems.

That does not seem to be a problem in Europe where they do blacklist IMEIs and people resell phones there. Generally the only time a phone's IMEI would be blacklisted is if the phone was reported stolen or lost. Someone would have to be a giant douche to request that a phone's IMEI be blacklisted after selling it to someone.
 
It wasn't stolen, more like he lost it, and somebody found it. Then decided to keep it :p

If someone finds someone else's property and decides to keep it instead of turning it over to the police and/or trying to contact the owner then their actions legally become theft.
 
If he is in the US this will not work. Carriers here do not blacklist IMEIs for some reason.

Every carrier in the US will Black list imei, EXCEPT ATT. I guess they figure why black list the phone if they can potentially get a new customer.
 
Getting assaulted by two guys who take your phone = having your phone stolen

Sitting down at the mall and having your phone fall out of your pocket = you losing your phone.
 
Every carrier in the US will Black list imei, EXCEPT ATT. I guess they figure why black list the phone if they can potentially get a new customer.

Really? For some reason I thought they would not. Maybe they did not in the past or maybe I was just mistaken. Anyway, good to know.
 
That does not seem to be a problem in Europe where they do blacklist IMEIs and people resell phones there. Generally the only time a phone's IMEI would be blacklisted is if the phone was reported stolen or lost. Someone would have to be a giant douche to request that a phone's IMEI be blacklisted after selling it to someone.

and unfortunately, these people exist.

i say it's better to just move on and next time take better care of your things.

if i'm out, i always check my pockets after standing up. whether it be the mall, movies, bar, wherever.
 
If someone finds someone else's property and decides to keep it instead of turning it over to the police and/or trying to contact the owner then their actions legally become theft.

Show me, counselor, where is statute, case law, or other jurisprudence that "legally" says this?

Typically there is no duty owed to return lost property.
 
Show me, counselor, where is statute, case law, or other jurisprudence that "legally" says this?

Typically there is no duty owed to return lost property.
Illinois Estrays and Lost Property Act
Illinois Compiled Statues 765 1020/27

Sec. 27. If any person or persons find any lost goods, money, bank notes, or other choses in action, of any description whatever, such person or persons shall inform the owner thereof, if known, and shall make restitution of the same, without any compensation whatever, except such compensation as shall be voluntarily given on the part of the owner. If the owner is unknown and if such property found is of the value of $100 or upwards, the finder or finders shall, within 5 days after such finding file in the circuit court of the county, an affidavit of the description thereof, the time and place when and where the same was found, that no alteration has been made in the appearance thereof since the finding of the same, that the owner thereof is unknown to the affiant and that the affiant has not secreted, withheld or disposed of any part thereof. The court shall enter an order stating the value of the property found as near as the court can ascertain. A certified copy of such order and the affidavit of the finder shall, within 10 days after the order was entered, be transmitted to the county clerk to be recorded in his estray book, and filed in the office of the county clerk.
If any property found consists of perishable goods, the court shall, at the time the finder presents the affidavit, order that the property be sold at public auction to the highest bidder. The court in the order shall provide for the giving of reasonable notice of the time and place of such sale. The court shall conduct or supervise such sale and shall enter in the order the amount received from the sale which entry shall be included in the certified copy to be transmitted to the county clerk. The proceeds of the sale, after deducting costs and other expenses shall be turned over to the finder. The finder shall hold such proceeds in lieu of the goods for the owner of the goods sold and shall give such proceeds, after deducting his expenses, to such owner, if the owner claims the same within the time provided by Section 28.
(Source: P.A. 83‑376.)
Thats just one state. Other states have similar laws. Not sure where you live.

I don't know if there is any legal consequence for not complying. But we can stop pretending there is no legal duty owned when you find property. That's just not true everywhere.

I'm not saying I agree with this silly law. But it appears to be real.
 
Show me, counselor, where is statute, case law, or other jurisprudence that "legally" says this?

Typically there is no duty owed to return lost property.

well if you found a money bag outside of a Brinks truck and it had identifying marks on it or an iPhone that had someone's personal info on it.

would both be theft? or would just one? or none?
 
well if you found a money bag outside of a Brinks truck and it had identifying marks on it or an iPhone that had someone's personal info on it.

would both be theft? or would just one? or none?

Ah ha, someone gets it :) That's what I was aiming for.
I will concede I was wrong but I think those laws were written more for the Brinks scenario than for a misplaced iPhone.
 
Every carrier in the US will Black list imei, EXCEPT ATT. I guess they figure why black list the phone if they can potentially get a new customer.
I didn't know this. =\ I hope the OP's friend finds his phone although it's unlikely.
 
OKAY I'm gonna try to settle this.

In OP's situation, someone "took" his phone. The phone-nabber of course is gonna say he found it and well...he didn't necessarily rob your friend.

I would say someone stole my iPhone if they took it out of my hands (which most likely would result in an ass-whooping :D )

And I would say I lost my iPhone meaning its somewhere around my house or laying in some grass...ya know, not in another person's possession.
 
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