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Unless I'm missing something, the only complaint I have is that you can't control the volume of individual speakers that are grouped outside of the Sonos app. I have a Play:1, Play:3 and Play:5, and can only change the volume of the 1 and 3 by still going into the Sonos app, as the AirPlay volume slider is just directly linked to the Play:5 grouping. Wish that grouping had a drop-down menu and I could change the volume of the speakers under it.

However, very happy lol.

When I tap on the Airplay icon in Apple Music (the triangle with the radio waves coming out the top) it shows me each speaker and I can control the volume for each of them separately when grouped. I can do the same in Spotify using Airplay. Perhaps I don’t understand your question, but after only a few minutes of messing abour, it seems to work very well for me. I am using a Playbase and One. Maybe that’s the difference as they are both AirPlay 2 capable.
 
Just updated my Sonos One yesterday and am I very happy with the AirPlay 2.
The update itself took about 3 minutes to apply.
For my iPhone 8 Plus:
Netflix and Youtube worked fantastic!
My video game music app Modizer did my NES, SNES, Sega Genesis, and PS1 music too and they all sounded mint!
Now I want to get another Sonos One to get Stereo support. Its definately a HomePod killer!
 
I was extremely excited to update my Sonos system today after I read that the new 9.0 update was bringing AirPlay to Sonos finally!

I currently own two Ones, two Play:1s, a Playbar, a Sub, and three HomePods. This update meant I could finally use my HomePods and Sonos system as one, cohesive experience.

It turned out that not only could I not use my Ones as rear channels for my Playbar/Sub (if I want AirPlay support), but for whatever reason, when I try and play music from Apple Music on my iPhone, my Sonos Speakers and Homepods refuse to stay in sync.

No matter what I do, the speakers only stay synced for 20-40 seconds before they start losing their place in the song. I’ll give it a few seconds to fix itself, but they refuse to stay synced together, with the speakers jumping all over the place. They’ll only stay synced if I stick to one speaker manufacturer at a time. (So only HomePod or only Sonos).

I’ve invested thousands of dollars in these speakers over the years, I only bought the Ones with the expectation that they would finally bridge the gap between Apple and Sonos with AirPlay 2, and so far the whole setup has been janky and half baked.

Anybody have any tips or recommendations on how to get these speakers to play nice?

EDIT: I noticed that when I was moving around in my space was when I noticed the most latency between the speakers. So I changed a couple things, I positioned a few of the antennas on my router towards the area where my speakers reside, and I changed to "Compressed" rather than "Uncompressed" for Compression settings in the advanced settings of the Sonos app. Not sure if the latter actually did anything, but I was trying to troubleshoot on my own, and those two things made a huge difference in the speakers cutting out.

Now they're not cutting out nearly as much when I walk around my place, and if they do lose their sync, it's only for a quick second, then it fixes itself.


Same issue here. I'm pretty confident in the network as I'm running a well tuned Ubiquiti setup, but may have a look there. I personally think it's a Sonos issue. If I had to take a guess they are trying to bridge the gap between two complicated and sensitive synchronization algorithms and it's not working and the whole thing comes unglued.

When just Airplay2 is in the mix (including play:5) everything works fine.
 
When I tap on the Airplay icon in Apple Music (the triangle with the radio waves coming out the top) it shows me each speaker and I can control the volume for each of them separately when grouped. I can do the same in Spotify using Airplay. Perhaps I don’t understand your question, but after only a few minutes of messing abour, it seems to work very well for me. I am using a Playbase and One. Maybe that’s the difference as they are both AirPlay 2 capable.

Yep, that's the difference - I have a Play:1 and Play:3, so both can only come under the Play:5's umbrella. I still need to use the Sonos app if I want to control individual volume. I've got them set at pretty good levels now (my bathroom will obviously not need as much volume as my living room lol) so it's not a huge problem, just would have been nice. Surely the 5 could give the message to the others to turn tf down.
 
There is an option in settings airplay group non-aiplay speakers

Yes but all that does is make the non supported speakers work is all when a single supported unit is running.

You CAN NOT keep a non supported speaker grouped with one specific supported speaker is the Major Issue here!!!

Once you are in the app and say you have a living room and bedroom on two different groups and each of those groups has 1 or more non supported Sonos speaker ... Once you play them in the Apple App via Airplay2 and then say you want to just hear the living room and not the bedroom, you turn off the bedroom but unfortunately now all speakers are grouped together so the non supported Sonos speaker int he bedroom continues to play even though you are only playing the living room supported speaker.

Basically if you are trying to run more than 1 group of speakers and each of those groups has a non supported sonons speaker you are SCREWED! The unsupported ones just play all over no matter what supported speaker you pick.

The Apple Music app just kills all created groups.

If you have just one single room in your house you are Golden! If you want more than area in your house to be on a separate group basically you need ALL speakers to be supported cause non supported just play no matter what group you pick.

PURE JUNK till this is fixed somehow.

I think at this point I may have to think about dumping Sonos and just biting the bullet on the crappy and WAY too expensive Homepod and lose quality sound and bass over my Play:5 at this point to make life simpler and there is NO WAY for other speakers to work correctly when trying to cross software platforms like this.
 
Yes but all that does is make the non supported speakers work is all when a single supported unit is running.

You CAN NOT keep a non supported speaker grouped with one specific supported speaker is the Major Issue here!!!

Once you are in the app and say you have a living room and bedroom on two different groups and each of those groups has 1 or more non supported Sonos speaker ... Once you play them in the Apple App via Airplay2 and then say you want to just hear the living room and not the bedroom, you turn off the bedroom but unfortunately now all speakers are grouped together so the non supported Sonos speaker int he bedroom continues to play even though you are only playing the living room supported speaker.

Basically if you are trying to run more than 1 group of speakers and each of those groups has a non supported sonons speaker you are SCREWED! The unsupported ones just play all over no matter what supported speaker you pick.

The Apple Music app just kills all created groups.

If you have just one single room in your house you are Golden! If you want more than area in your house to be on a separate group basically you need ALL speakers to be supported cause non supported just play no matter what group you pick.

PURE JUNK till this is fixed somehow.

I think at this point I may have to think about dumping Sonos and just biting the bullet on the crappy and WAY too expensive Homepod and lose quality sound and bass over my Play:5 at this point to make life simpler and there is NO WAY for other speakers to work correctly when trying to cross software platforms like this.

Have you contacted Sonos, or visited their forums? If you posted this already, I missed it.

I'm interested to find out if they plan of fixing this situation because I plan on using two Sonos Air Play 2 compatible speakers with two Play 1 speakers combined as separate groups. I don't want to make the investment in the new Sonos One speakers if this is not going to work.

I also missed if you have your setup using Ethernet to any of the speakers - do you? Are you using a Bridge or Boost?
 
I tried Airplay 2 on my two 2nd gen Play 5's and don’t like the idea that it is streaming from my iOS device.
The great thing about the Sonos app is, that it only acts as a controller, the Play 5 pulls the music from the Apple Music service and not streaming from your iOS device. Obvious reason of not liking Airplay 2 is battery life concerns.
I have Homepod as well and you can better ask Siri to play something (as in not streaming from your iOS device).
 
Press the + in the upper right corner in the Home App. Then something like „Add device“ appears. Select this one and then the option of adding without code. My Devices are set to German so i don‘t know the exact naming in englisch iOS Version.
Tried this but did't work. Switched phone off and back on again. Didn't work. Could it be because I'm on iOS 10?

EDIT: Nope. Wont work as need iOS 11 for Airplay to work.
 
Have you contacted Sonos, or visited their forums? If you posted this already, I missed it.

I'm interested to find out if they plan of fixing this situation because I plan on using two Sonos Air Play 2 compatible speakers with two Play 1 speakers combined as separate groups. I don't want to make the investment in the new Sonos One speakers if this is not going to work.

I also missed if you have your setup using Ethernet to any of the speakers - do you? Are you using a Bridge or Boost?

I have not contacted Sonos or been on their forums yet (I think I may find the best Sonos forum and try there).

But currently with what you are looking to run it will not work right.
What will happen is whenever you decide to run both of those groups then turn one off, the single group will play fine but it will also play the one unsupported sonos in the other group (and probably meaning in the other room) as well.

So ya this whole setup and Airplay2 integration for the Sonos speakers is worthless Unless you are JUST using a Single Group OR your multiple groups include nothing but supported speakers ... in those cases it is solid.
Once you move into multi-room setups that have unsupported speakers in any room then you are screwed and it's back to the Sonos App you go.

And all my speakers are WiFi connected (no ethernet). this wouldn't make any difference in this issue.

If anyone is looking to invest in Sonos and wanting the Airplay2 to use with iphone then I would suggest unfortunately to Only go with Play:5 or ONE and just not mess with trying to integrating Play:1's in the mix.

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I tried Airplay 2 on my two 2nd gen Play 5's and don’t like the idea that it is streaming from my iOS device.
The great thing about the Sonos app is, that it only acts as a controller, the Play 5 pulls the music from the Apple Music service and not streaming from your iOS device. Obvious reason of not liking Airplay 2 is battery life concerns.
I have Homepod as well and you can better ask Siri to play something (as in not streaming from your iOS device).

Ya I noticed this as well. With the App IO can play anything and leave the house and come back and it's still playing which is nice. And you are right the last two days of me trying to use Airplay2 my iPhone X is dead WAY faster then normal which sucks for sure.

Honestly due to the wonky way Airplay 2 handles unsupported speakers in multiple groups along with the two issues you have stated I am basically done with trying and will just going back to the POS Sonos App till I decide if I want to keep Sonons now and not move a different direction at some point ... It's just hard cause NO Other speakers comes CLOSE to what my Sonos speakers can produce as far as sound and also the bass with my Play:5.
 
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I have not contacted Sonos or been on their forums yet (I think I may find the best Sonos forum and try there).

But currently with what you are looking to run it will not work right.
What will happen is whenever you decide to run both of those groups then turn one off, the single group will play fine but it will also play the one unsupported sonos in the other group (and probably meaning in the other room) as well.

So ya this whole setup and Airplay2 integration for the Sonos speakers is worthless Unless you are JUST using a Single Group OR your multiple groups include nothing but supported speakers ... in those cases it is solid.
Once you move into multi-room setups that have unsupported speakers in any room then you are screwed and it's back to the Sonos App you go.

And all my speakers are WiFi connected (no ethernet). this wouldn't make any difference in this issue.

If anyone is looking to invest in Sonos and wanting the Airplay2 to use with iphone then I would suggest unfortunately to Only go with Play:5 or ONE and just not mess with trying to integrating Play:1's in the mix.
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Ya I noticed this as well. With the App IO can play anything and leave the house and come back and it's still playing which is nice. And you are right the last two days of me trying to use Airplay2 my iPhone X is dead WAY faster then normal which sucks for sure.

Honestly due to the wonky way Airplay 2 handles unsupported speakers in multiple groups along with the two issues you have stated I am basically done with trying and will just going back to the POS Sonos App till I decide if I want to keep Sonons now and not move a different direction at some point ...

@falconman515 Thank you for your response. You explained it perfectly! I am going to check Sonos forums too. I will update you if I find anything,a d would appreciate it if you would do the same for me (and the rest of the peopel having problems) :)

I will probably do the same rather than invest in two new Sonos speakers until, or if, Sonos can figure this out. I'm not especially intertested in buying the Home Pod, so I will be keeping away from that...

I have three new Play 1 speakers in the box. One is White, and the two are black. I also have one Play 1 that is not in the box, but in perfect shape. I may just decide to sell the whole lot...
 
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When I tap on the Airplay icon in Apple Music (the triangle with the radio waves coming out the top) it shows me each speaker and I can control the volume for each of them separately when grouped. I can do the same in Spotify using Airplay. Perhaps I don’t understand your question, but after only a few minutes of messing abour, it seems to work very well for me. I am using a Playbase and One. Maybe that’s the difference as they are both AirPlay 2 capable.


Good Point! It seems that if you do not go into the Sonos App to change the volume of the various Sonos Speakers they all are "linked up" and through Itunes are controlled like they are just one speaker. But you can also have the Sonos App open while you are playing through iTunes and can manipulate each speakers volume there. it would me nice to be able to do that through iTunes/Apple Music but I undestand they probably aren't going to go the extra mile for someone elses speakers. I think Apple will probably roll out an entire host of speakers over the next few years but I hope they will still continue to support 3rd party speakers to some exent.
 
I just picked up a Sonos One and now I don't have to use the Airport Express anymore! Hurrah!

I'm very pleased with how well the grouping is working. I have a Gen 1 Play:5, and Gen 2 Play:1. My only concern was latency, and there isn't any.

I've added Sonos One to homekit (in the Kitchen), but when I ask Siri to play something in the "kitchen" or "everywhere", it responds "Sorry, I'm unable to play that in the kitchen".

Has anyone had that problem, and sorted it out?
 
Sonos One has Amazon Alexa built in. Alexa is a more capable voice assistant than Siri in general terms, however amazon may use your data for advertising, where your information remains private with Apple.
 
Does Sonos one has same functionality as Homepod? i mean "Hey Siri" Stuff.

No Sonos doesnt support Hey Siri or Siri in any form whatsoever this was all badly reported. Sonos has Airplay support which means you can control it from your phone, and if you wanted to use Siri on your phone to control the Airplay which you probably won't do.
 
I just picked up a Sonos One and now I don't have to use the Airport Express anymore! Hurrah!

I'm very pleased with how well the grouping is working. I have a Gen 1 Play:5, and Gen 2 Play:1. My only concern was latency, and there isn't any.

I've added Sonos One to homekit (in the Kitchen), but when I ask Siri to play something in the "kitchen" or "everywhere", it responds "Sorry, I'm unable to play that in the kitchen".

Has anyone had that problem, and sorted it out?
I am having this problem as well. I am running iOS 12 betas and thought that may be the source of the problem.
 
If the home pod integrated with my TV then I'd get it in a heart beat.

Really leaning towards SONOS
 
No Sonos doesnt support Hey Siri or Siri in any form whatsoever this was all badly reported. Sonos has Airplay support which means you can control it from your phone, and if you wanted to use Siri on your phone to control the Airplay which you probably won't do.
This is where the up and coming "Shortcuts" might be useful ???
 
Yep, Sonos Playbar is very nice. If TV sound is important than Sonos is a better option at the moment.
I just use a HT setup with a Denon Receiver and have an AppleTV 4 plugged into it that handles Airplay 2 stuff (already owned all of it before the HomePod was released).

I have a HomePod in the same general area, so it is easy to just tell it to send specific music to the AppleTV when I want audio from the main system instead of the HomePod. The Sonos Playbar is nice for those that need the convenience, though.
 
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