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Wait! Is that sarcasm?This post has been reported for making too much sense.
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Sonos Complains About Apple's Restrictions on Third-Party Siri Access in Antitrust Hearing
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They bought liquid medal because they were sold on the promise and the owners made out like bandits. The tech was a dud and could not fulfill its promise.
You post made sense but it wasn't reported. I made a joke.
I hope Sonos stops the bs and just implement Siri into their products. While I’m definitely keeping my surround setup I wouldn’t be against selling my individual Sonos ones and replacing them with HomePod minis. The only reason I bought them in the first place was they where the lest expensive HomeKit 2 speakers and I already had my Sonos beam and 2 play 1’s in my bedroom. I prefer HomeKit for my smart home stuff.
Apple and Google will face multiple tsunami waves of lawsuits which they can’t win at all, they simply went too far with this anticompetitive interlocked “ecosystem”.
And this is just the beginning…
Thanks EPIC, for throwing the first stone, I’m looking forward to side loading and more choices…
And this is just the beginning…
Thanks EPIC, for throwing the first stone, I’m looking forward to side loading and more choices…
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Yes but like Sonos is saying here, you need to have a HomePod for 3rd parties to route through. So for someone’s first smart speaker, it wouldn’t be a choice between a HomePod or a Sonos speaker, it’s between a HopePod or a Sonos + HomePod.
Apple’s stated reason for this is privacy but you can see how it could also be viewed as a competitive advantage.
It's like you guys didn't even read the article before commenting.
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Gotcha! Thank you! This Las Vegas heat is getting to me. It's 115 degrees outside.You post made sense but it wasn't reported. I made a joke.
Most markets are controlled by a few dominant players. Cars anyone? Washers and dryers? The issue is the future doesn't look like the past. 'Smart' networks and devices are different than what came before and I think people are confused and scared. A lot of what he says is general or straw man logic.
I agree with the part about being forced to only use 1 assistant at a time...my Beam has the mic turned off most of the time but when I was first setting it up I was surprised they make you choose one assistant when it can do both.
Beyond that, why can't companies like SONOS just make a limited amount of device specific commands be run on-device? I don't need every product to have an Alexa (and others) on it (especially since it doesn't know what kind of product it is in and just acts like a separate alexa)
Beyond that, why can't companies like SONOS just make a limited amount of device specific commands be run on-device? I don't need every product to have an Alexa (and others) on it (especially since it doesn't know what kind of product it is in and just acts like a separate alexa)
That is too hot. I hope you have air conditioning.
When it comes to privacy, I prefer to not be hip like the other companies making money off people in a bad way.
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Sonos claims that Apple is hampering innovation? ********. Sonos has been stuck in the mud for ages. All these whiney companies, states, countries are furious that Apple has a small market share, but is the richest company in the world - because they continually innovate. Everyone thinks this is an opportunity to get rich by suing Apple. That is not innovation, just greed and envy.
If true, I do think it’s pretty weird that Apple is requiring a user to buy a HomePod to get Siri to work on 3rd party products. Alexa and Google Assistant don’t have such requirements—those voice assistants appear in many 3rd party products without any such strings attached. I really hope that Apple changes this policy. As long as it can be done without compromising security, Apple should license Siri to anyone willing to comply with their security protocols.
(I don’t know anything about how Amazon and Google license their voice assistants to third parties, but one possible explanation for the discrepancy between them and Apple might be that maybe they basically give their VA’s to manufactures for free in exchange for the data they collect? I’m guessing since that data isn’t valuable to Apple, perhaps they feel they don’t wanna give Siri away for free and this want to sell more hardware to justify? I’m admittedly grasping for straws, but I can’t think of any other reason for thier clunky proposed implementation.)
(I don’t know anything about how Amazon and Google license their voice assistants to third parties, but one possible explanation for the discrepancy between them and Apple might be that maybe they basically give their VA’s to manufactures for free in exchange for the data they collect? I’m guessing since that data isn’t valuable to Apple, perhaps they feel they don’t wanna give Siri away for free and this want to sell more hardware to justify? I’m admittedly grasping for straws, but I can’t think of any other reason for thier clunky proposed implementation.)
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Reminds me of when some developers that spend millions developing games on Facebook's platform got upset. You built your house on someone else's property and then got mad when they changed the rules? Heck, it happens when Facebook makes changes to how pages reach their followers and then business cry about it. If you don't want to have to abide by their terms, build it on your own platform. That means building your own website, where you have full control, rather than building on Facebook.
Same holds true here. Don't like the requirements Apple has? Make your own smartphone and then you can control all the rules. But why some expect a company that invested billions into building their own platform should be required to open it up for others to make money off of it is simply silly.
Amazon should be required to sell my products and should not get any commission for doing so! Apple should have to sell my apps and I should get all the revenue. UPS should deliver all my business shipments at no cost to me.
" in the future, every smart home will be controlled by a few dominant companies."
Yes, and I want it.
Yes, and I want it.
I willing to bet it because the HomePod will do the voice processing.
Sonos' arguments literally make no sense. Let me make sure I understand their complaints. They don't make a smart assistant of their own, but are upset at the licensing terms associated with using 3rd party smart assistants. Oh and the open source work being done to standardize access to smart homes won't work because Google and Apple are involved. Yeah got it!
Here we go again, but now all the fanboys can add Sonos to the list of companies that they hate. I wonder if I missed any.
Amazon: Bad
Google: Bad
Microsoft: Bad
Samsung: Bad
Sonos: Bad
Spotify: Bad
Tile: Bad
Apple: Gods.
Amazon: Bad
Google: Bad
Microsoft: Bad
Samsung: Bad
Sonos: Bad
Spotify: Bad
Tile: Bad
Apple: Gods.
..and that shows that Spotify antitrust against Apple is BS.
What’s ironic is most of these things to “protect consumers” are things consumers don’t want. What a bunch of bull. I don’t tweet, mail or call senators but this wokeness is crazy so we might have too.
I thought we wanted more platforms, with Apple's Monopoly and all?
The Alexa app works also as noted. Select an Apple Music selection send to however your Amazon speakers are arranged.